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    Is there something special about red meat?

    I have noticed that I am craving red meat like crazy while bulking. Just made me wonder if there are particular benefits to red meat for bodybuilding. Or maybe it is just me who is looking for reasons to justify my meat intake...

    The old school guys ate a lot of red meat and Serge Nubret took this approach to the extreme (https://www.google.no/amp/s/amp.body...-maverick.html)
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    I'll eat raw meat every now and then. One time I bought some steaks that were quite inexpensive and quite tough. So I sliced it up and put it in a bag with bloody mary mix to tenderize it. I had probably a 5 day supply. Some friends came over and long story short I put a plate of raw meat in front of them and they ate it all. It looked cooked after it was marinated. Whiskey was involved.
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    I haven't been eating red meat for some time now but I could never try raw meat I think I would puke instantly
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    I concur and speculate that there is.
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    We are red meat, it most closely matches our amino acid profile.

    Look at the most successful people in the world (athletes, businessmen, etc). You don’t hear of any banning red meat.

    Having some won’t hurt you. Focus on quality red meat, preferably grass fed organic.

    I was at a point of eating a dozen eggs a day along with minimum pound of red meat a day for months. Zero issues.
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    I'll eat raw meat every now and then. One time I bought some steaks that were quite inexpensive and quite tough. So I sliced it up and put it in a bag with bloody mary mix to tenderize it. I had probably a 5 day supply. Some friends came over and long story short I put a plate of raw meat in front of them and they ate it all. It looked cooked after it was marinated. Whiskey was involved.

    Beef carpaccio and tartar steak crew here, never had an issue and feel amazing later in the day. Breakfast of champions.
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    My thought would be no, there is nothing special about red meat (just as there is nothing special about any one particular food), but if you prefer it, then eat it.
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    Of course there is. Have you ever ordered a carne asada burrito without red meat?
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    Carnitine.
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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    We are red meat, it most closely matches our amino acid profile.
    What do you mean ‘our amino acid profile’?

    Different red meads have different amino acids…

    I’d love to see a breakdown of the amino profile in human meat if you have that.

    Also, in a diet consisting of multiple sources of aminos, the profile of one single food is largely irrelevant
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    Because it is delicious?

    I like beef but not a fan of venison or veal.

    Bison and elk is good but pretty hard to get right ie not chewy
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    Red meat packs a punch for BCAAS, vitamins and minerals. In fact, I remember reading articles years ago about how, both red meat and brain, had the nourishment to last a week or more for early man. During the gatherer phase of human life, it could have been essential for them to scavenge these. That being said, eggs too were vital though, but most likely because of the ease of gathering and preparing.
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    Well, one bonus to reds is you get a lil creatine in it in addition to other things, so that's pretty cool.
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    I have noticed that I am craving red meat like crazy while bulking. Just made me wonder if there are particular benefits to red meat for bodybuilding. Or maybe it is just me who is looking for reasons to justify my meat intake...

    The old school guys ate a lot of red meat and Serge Nubret took this approach to the extreme (https://www.google.no/amp/s/amp.body...-maverick.html)
    “This bodybuilder used to do this” is pretty faulty reasoning to do something now…

    Ronnie Coleman literally said he was ‘negative bodyfat %’

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    Red meat is extremely healthy, because it prolongs longevity and good health
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    Red meat is extremely healthy, because it prolongs longevity and good health
    Yup, same as beer and fist fights. All in a balanced diet.
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    Yup, same as beer and fist fights. All in a balanced diet.
    Beer and fist fights? Fist fights are not ''healthy''. Stop your trolling.
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    beer and fist fights? Fist fights are not ''healthy''. Stop your trolling.
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    Originally Posted by superman704 View Post
    Beer and fist fights? Fist fights are not ''healthy''. Stop your trolling.
    Can you show me evidence red meat extends life in any way then?
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    Just made me wonder if there are particular benefits to red meat for bodybuilding.
    Aside from protein and other mainstream nutrients, red meat is prob one of the best sources of creatine from food.
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    Originally Posted by air2fakie View Post
    Aside from protein and other mainstream nutrients, red meat is prob one of the best sources of creatine from food.
    similar to salmon and some other fish. So, to answer the original question, nothing really “special” about red meat besides taste.
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    We are what we eat. So would you rather be a big cow or a small chicken ?

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    Iron is the best nutritional benefit of red meat
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    Iron is the best nutritional benefit of red meat
    Again though same amounts to some fish and shellfish etc. So not “special” to red meat.(and you actually opened up the door for Manwitaplan to talk about the benefits of beef liver and oysters)
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    Again though same amounts to some fish and shellfish etc. So not “special” to red meat.(and you actually opened up the door for Manwitaplan to talk about the benefits of beef liver and oysters)
    It is a compelling argument when you find that some tribes in the far north depending solely on fish for the nourishment. They had no other choice because of the frozen land. Can’t say for certain, but I would imagine there was some genetic adaptation that improved their health as a result. Could also it be that they were no other options for “unhealthy“ foods too?

    It is a topic that I haven’t read about in a long time.
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    Again though same amounts to some fish and shellfish etc. So not “special” to red meat.(and you actually opened up the door for Manwitaplan to talk about the benefits of beef liver and oysters)
    true. I mean most cereal even has your daily requirement of iron added.
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    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    It is a compelling argument when you find that some tribes in the far north depending solely on fish for the nourishment. They had no other choice because of the frozen land. Can’t say for certain, but I would imagine there was some genetic adaptation that improved their health as a result. Could also it be that they were no other options for “unhealthy“ foods too?

    It is a topic that I haven’t read about in a long time.
    this

    i keep telling people you have to eat according to your genetics, we're not all the same.

    i've had my dna raw data downloaded at a site that does this, had a report done with details on what i should and shouldn't be eating and what works best for me. a great example i found out i shouldn't be taking supplemental vitamin E and unbeknownst to me should avoid gluten even though i show no allergic reactions.
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    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    It is a compelling argument when you find that some tribes in the far north depending solely on fish for the nourishment. They had no other choice because of the frozen land. Can’t say for certain, but I would imagine there was some genetic adaptation that improved their health as a result. Could also it be that they were no other options for “unhealthy“ foods too?

    It is a topic that I haven’t read about in a long time.
    THat's not a compelling argument at all... what people do in times of desperation isn't necessarily what they do when seeking optimal health... they're trying not to die... they're not thinking about 'thriving' and health
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