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    Okay so Ive heard your input and am trying to get to 3500 kcals. However, I am not able to get this from just veggies and whole foods - I am simply not hungry enough, and they fill me up too fast. Im ensuring I hit my minimum fat and protein, and eating 200g of fruits and some veggies daily, but Im eating fatty foods such as salami, choclate milk, pistache nuts, to reach enough kcal since I struggle with eating this many kcals. The whole cardio discussion aside, will this affect my body very negatively? Is this what you would call a dirty bulk? I do roughly keep my kcals in check and not simply eat as much as I can without putting thought into it (even if I did, my appetite is super capped at 3500 kcal), but it is mainly fats...
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    Originally Posted by Bremster1 View Post
    Okay so Ive heard your input and am trying to get to 3500 kcals. However, I am not able to get this from just veggies and whole foods - I am simply not hungry enough, and they fill me up too fast. Im ensuring I hit my minimum fat and protein, and eating 200g of fruits and some veggies daily, but Im eating fatty foods such as salami, choclate milk, pistache nuts, to reach enough kcal since I struggle with eating this many kcals. The whole cardio discussion aside, will this affect my body very negatively? Is this what you would call a dirty bulk? I do roughly keep my kcals in check and not simply eat as much as I can without putting thought into it (even if I did, my appetite is super capped at 3500 kcal), but it is mainly fats...
    Nothing wrong with salami nuts and chocolate milk. A dirty bulk is when you eat in a massive surplus of calories. It has nothing to do with what foods you choose. Get out of the mindset of having to eat only these 'clean foods'.
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    hate to beat a dead horse (and really that's sick - you shouldnt even beat a live one) BUT......

    again - do you use a kitchen scale to WEIGH your food and also track all of your beverages - everything you are going to swallow?

    have you used the stickies or a tdee calc to get a good handle on what you need to consume in order to eat maintenance and what an actual surplus would be for you?

    if you arent actually aware of the true amount you consume - you could simply be under-eating for you - most people under/over estimate - and without having actual weights of food (not a cup, teaspoon, handful) you cant know what you are consuming, unless you only eat prepackaged and the labels are all *truthful* all of the time.

    this could be an easy fix if you just need to eat more - unless you really cant manage to eat enough to grow....

    and when you mentioned your average intake before - you said: "Ive kept my nutrition in check, and consistently eat between 2500 to 3200 kcal a day. My average fats are around 95g, protein around 140g, carbs 180g"

    thats only 2135 calories....

    also - imo - the cardio discussion matters - since you could be doing too much and causing muscle wasting...which means not growing....some people can do hours of cardio/day and still grow - but they are eating enough to overcome what the cardio uses
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    guys who are not eating are not growing. You cannot be a bear if you eat like a rabbit.
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    Originally Posted by coachcalande View Post
    You cannot be a bear if you eat like a rabbit.
    You should make that your sig.
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    Originally Posted by Bremster1 View Post
    Dear,

    I am becoming increasingly frustrated by working out, because for some reason I am simply not getting stronger. As adviced by an earlier post on this forum, I have stuck with the Fierce 5 routine since the end of June. I took a break halfway through because I went on vacation for 2 weeks, although I did do some pushups, pull ups, planks and a lot of walking. After this I figured I would do a "reset" because even before that vacation, I wasn't really progressing. I picked up again, resetting, starting the 1st of August, and after 2 weeks I was back to my previous numbers.

    The Fierce 5 program advices increments of 5lbs upper and 10 lbs lower weekly. I think over the course of 2-3 months, I have gained maybe a total of 5 lbs upper and 10 lbs lower: more than that I simply cannot lift. I cannot figure out why. Some numbers of my progress, over 2-3 months:

    bench press 45 kg --> 50 kg
    squat 50 --> 55
    pendlay row 30 --> 32
    front squat 30 --> 40
    overhead lift: 20 --> 25

    Ive kept my nutrition in check, and consistently eat between 2500 to 3200 kcal a day. My average fats are around 95g, protein around 140g, carbs 180g. I am 188cm & 77kg.

    I have also attached pictures of 2,5months ago and today. Everywhere online I read about the "noob gains" you should supposedly get when starting out, meanwhile I am getting literally no gains. At the same time, I have more belly fat than I've ever had before. I know you automatically gain fat when you build muscle, but its not translating back to increased strength/muscle it seems. Could this be a problem with testosterone? Can someone please give me some advice as to what is wrong with me? All advice is appreciated!

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    I too was a hard gainer and plateaued. I couldn't gain weight or strength no matter what past a certain point. Take high bioavailability protein and eat a meal within 45 minutes after workout. Your body chemistry changes during this window enhancing the uptake and use of protein. I did this and ended plateauing for good. Gain after that was based solely on effort.
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    Originally Posted by mtnmama View Post
    hate to beat a dead horse (and really that's sick - you shouldnt even beat a live one) BUT......

    again - do you use a kitchen scale to WEIGH your food and also track all of your beverages - everything you are going to swallow?

    have you used the stickies or a tdee calc to get a good handle on what you need to consume in order to eat maintenance and what an actual surplus would be for you?

    if you arent actually aware of the true amount you consume - you could simply be under-eating for you - most people under/over estimate - and without having actual weights of food (not a cup, teaspoon, handful) you cant know what you are consuming, unless you only eat prepackaged and the labels are all *truthful* all of the time.

    this could be an easy fix if you just need to eat more - unless you really cant manage to eat enough to grow....

    and when you mentioned your average intake before - you said: "Ive kept my nutrition in check, and consistently eat between 2500 to 3200 kcal a day. My average fats are around 95g, protein around 140g, carbs 180g"

    thats only 2135 calories....

    also - imo - the cardio discussion matters - since you could be doing too much and causing muscle wasting...which means not growing....some people can do hours of cardio/day and still grow - but they are eating enough to overcome what the cardio uses
    Thank you for your input. youre right, theyre only up to 2100 kcal - this is because I took the average from the app I use, in which I usually dont fill in my dinner and hence only put in around 2k kcals.

    Youre also right that its probably that im not eating enough. It wont be feasible to measure every dinner since my mom cooks and I dont have time to micro manage exactly what she puts in. Nonetheless my appetite is a good enough indicator for only dinner, and it usually sits at around 600-700 kcal. (I measure everything else I eat throughout the day with a scale). I have, as of this thread, begun eating a 4th time and snacking after dinner, hopefully I will start getting stronger soon.

    I barely do cardio. I bike 20 mins a day at most, and other than that I have a mostly sedentary lifestyle
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    Originally Posted by Bremster1 View Post
    Thank you for your input. youre right, theyre only up to 2100 kcal - this is because I took the average from the app I use, in which I usually dont fill in my dinner and hence only put in around 2k kcals.

    Youre also right that its probably that im not eating enough. It wont be feasible to measure every dinner since my mom cooks and I dont have time to micro manage exactly what she puts in. Nonetheless my appetite is a good enough indicator for only dinner, and it usually sits at around 600-700 kcal. (I measure everything else I eat throughout the day with a scale). I have, as of this thread, begun eating a 4th time and snacking after dinner, hopefully I will start getting stronger soon.

    I barely do cardio. I bike 20 mins a day at most, and other than that I have a mostly sedentary lifestyle
    I don’t have any way to really track cals on the dinners my bride makes- always too fancy…but Id measure it by number of plates and on average probably 800-900 cals per plate.
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    Originally Posted by Bremster1 View Post
    Thank you for your input....

    I have, as of this thread, begun eating a 4th time and snacking after dinner, hopefully I will start getting stronger soon.

    I barely do cardio. I bike 20 mins a day at most, and other than that I have a mostly sedentary lifestyle
    sounds like you are really figuring it out - glad to hear you are making progress. i hope that you will check back in and let us know how you go, eh?
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