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    Natural or not type of question

    Saturday curiosity!
    My girlfriend does some home workouts after Caroline Girvan and she love them.
    I've seen some video of her where she looked quite muscular (I don't find it anymore) and I might have commented that "she must be on something because it's hard for a female to have those shoulders, that muscle mass and be that lean all year around ". And we had a little debate. But what the hell do I know, I assume every fitness youtuber is on something because money, money, money and because why not choosing the easier path.

    So, my questions are?
    1. Can she be natural or not? 37 years old, two children, she is that lean all year round. I know she is not that muscular, there are those Mrs/Ms Olympias,but I am not completely sold on their gender.
    2. If natural, how good are her genetics?
    3. What is her body fat percentage?

    I didn't know where to ask this. It was you or the Misc. And on Misc the answers would have been "2 out of 10, elbows too pointy" or "Hnnnnng" (or some other word without vocals). So you won!

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    Not particularly muscled or strong.
    Just very lean really.

    Perfectly possible she's natural.

    Whether she actually takes anything that would make her considered to not be is a whole different story and you will never know.

    I'd guess bf is low teens.
    Genetics.. Eh I dunno for what? She doesn't look genetically inclined for muscle but she also doesn't look like she trains for it, she could well be.
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    Traps size (yoke) in females is good giveaway.

    Girl in OP has none.

    Take a look at the women competing in the Crossfit Games. Who are "supposedly" drug tested.



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    Impossible to say. I used to think people who are that lean year round are always on something but there are several on the forums here that maintain insane leanness who I am convinced are natty (e.g. snailsrus who is female and leaner than this)

    The incentive is there though
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    Think of it this way...

    If they make their living ftom their body on social ect
    And they can make more or easier money on a bit of dat der.

    Assume everyone is on. Even for an actual naturally achievable body.
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    Thumbs up It can be done

    First if she had good genetics dont need to be 100% eating lean or working out hard.
    About the fat% i think is 9% or 10%, but remember every body is diferent, so only with a caliper you wil know the truth.
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    Don't ever assume the fitness space is 100% real. Lots of different types of PEDs from diuretics to hormones.
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    I'd say highly likely she is natural. She is not particular muscular, just lean.
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    Traps size (yoke) in females is good giveaway.

    Girl in OP has none.

    Take a look at the women competing in the Crossfit Games. Who are "supposedly" drug tested.
    Crossfit is mostly just high frequency x high volume strength conditioning through periodization.
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    Smell their armpits, you can pick up male hormones in there.

    Also, another trick I use is to look at how their face changes in their before pic, essentially the jaw and forehead.

    Also some people can be legit natty and built like that with major face changes because they have a tumor in their hypothalamus.

    I think pretty much every fitness type influencer isn't natty, simply because they would be overshadowed by someone who uses even a light load. Sad but true.
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