How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[BlackJack619]

Today is the day of salvation
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[thedickus]

Today is the day of salvation
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Today is Taco Tuesday
-The Dickus-

[mtpockets]

Today is the day of salvation
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It's 2 for 1 pizza Tuesday

Day of not starvation.

[thedickus]

It's 2 for 1 pizza Tuesday

Day of not starvation.

Christians keep touting medical miracles as proof of their god. Always funny how these 'miracles" occur naturally without a god. Now if god were to grow this chick's leg back, I'd be fuking impressed!

[GrouchyUSMC]

This is one of those things we don't know, how quickly Jesus died due to crucifixion.
As he became weaker, the victim would be unable to pull himself up and death would ensue within a few hours.

In order to prolong the agony, Roman executioners devised two instruments that would keep the victim alive on the cross for extended periods of time. One, known as a sedile, was a small seat attached to the front of the cross, about halfway down. This device provided some support for the victim’s body and may explain the phrase used by the Romans, “to sit on the cross.” Both Erenaeus and Justin Martyr describe the cross of Jesus as having five extremities rather than four; the fifth was probably the sedile. To increase the victim’s suffering, the sedile was pointed, thus inflicting horrible pain. The second device added to the cross was the suppedaneum, or foot support. It was less painful than the sedile, but it also prolonged the victim’s agony. Ancient historians record many cases in which the victim stayed alive on the cross for two or three or more days with the use of a suppedaneum.

We don't know if Jesus was pierced with a sword or if that's simply another embellishment like him being born or a virgin

Nobody knows for sure. But what it says in the Bible actually supports it. When He is stabbed, notice how blood and water comes out. Some Biblical interpreters like to say this signifies both death (blood) and life (water). But honestly when you look at it from a medical perspective, it shows Jesus was suffering from pleural effusion (build up of fluid around the heart and lungs) which can cause hypovolemic shock which tended to be the primary cause of death in crucifixion. Not a smoking gun, but definitely evidence for showing it happened. Combined with historical evidence of Romans doing so for crucifixions, it is a supported theory.

[mtpockets]

[BlackJack619]

If atheism is merely a lack of belief in God, Atheism is just a claim about the atheist’s state of mind, not a claim about Gods existence.

[GrouchyUSMC]

Actually just learned this myself today.

[mtpockets]

[thedickus]

Actually just learned this myself today.

Of course, what else could it be?

In seriousness, that is interesting. I didn't realize that a catholic priest was behind it. I grew up baptist. The only thing baptists ever discovered was they had to let Sunday services out before the lutherans did if they didn't want to have to wait in line at the Red Lobster for lunch after church.

[thedickus]

If atheism is merely a lack of belief in God, Atheism is just a claim about the atheist’s state of mind, not a claim about Gods existence.

If theism is merely a belief in a god, then theism is just a claim about the theist's state of mind, not a claim about a gods existence.

Wow, that works pretty well both ways.

[ScottLefler]

You can go through virtually all the alleged messianic prophecies that point to Jesus and show the same things: either the “prophecies” were not actually predictions of the future messiah (and were never taken that way before christians came along) or the facts of Jesus’ life that are said to have fulfilled these predictions are not actually facts of Jesus’ life.

Yes, they are facts of Jesus's Life because:

1) They were recorded by Eyewitnesses that actually knew Him.
2) There were plenty of people who hated Him who would have been glad to debunk these claims, but there isn't a single person who did.
3) You can't fake where you will be born, how you will die, how you will be betrayed, ect. All these things are many more details are fulfilled in Christ's life.
4) Every one of them are actual Prophecies of Christ, hundreds of years before they happened and they were all fulfilled Him Jesus's life and recorded by the Eyewitnesses who actually knew Him, unlike you who wasn't there. I believe them.

The evil in the bible comes from one place, from the men who made it all up. The bible condones and endorses slavery of ANYONE who is not an Israelite. This is nationalism and is evil. It isn't talking about voluntary slavery of non-Israelites. It doesn't seem to care how they became to be slaves. Just because someone isn't an Israelite doesn't make them "wicked".

The evil in the Bible were real events that happened. The Bible does not condone involuntary slavery, except in few cases where God was Judging wicked Nations who were committing wicked sins, torturing people, abominable sins, ect. for centuries and wouldn't repent. You have no right to call the Living God evil. YOU are evil and YOU are the one who is hateful, it's clear by the way you conduct yourself. The overwhelming majority of the slavery was VOLUNTARY to pay off a debt for a 7 year period. It was forbidden to steal and man and sell him. They would be put to death for doing that.

What does this verse mean to you?

Ex 21:16 And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

'm offended by people like who constantly tell lies and claim their predudices, like you wanting to murder innocent homosexuals, are mandated by some higher power. They aren't, they're just you wanting to be an @$$h0Ie to perfectly fine people.

I'm offended by people like you who repeatedly tell lies, hoping that if you repeat the same lie enough, it will become true. Never said I wanted to murder innocent homosexuals, but you repeat that same lie, hoping that it will become true because you a SICK, LIAR who is full of HATE and can't tell the truth and likes to harrass perfectly fine Christian people.

You continue to tell this blatant lie. You haven't proves a thing about what happened prior to the big bang. You just give up and say what else can it be? NOTHING proves ANY god is responsible.

Science isn't a blatant lie. Matter and Energy cannot Create Themselves says the Laws of Thermodynamics and Conservation of Energy. LOOK IT UP! You Lose! You just want to HOPE that it could possibly be ANYTHING Except God, because deep down, you HATE God.

You have admitted on this thread that you would murder innocent homosexuals if you thought your make believe God told you to. You are a liar.

Back in the OT when the Israelites were commanded to stone them, IF I had lived back then, I would have had to obey the law and they would have also stoned you as well for blasphemy. But in this present time of Grace, we don't stone anyone for immoral behavior like yours. If you had your way, you would kill all of the Christians, no doubt because you are a hateful, angry man who needs Jesus Christ.

The old testament only mentions Melchizedek twice. Nowhere does it indicate he is divine or anything more than a man. He is not a prophecy to Jesus. As stated in my first rebuttal to your lies there are no prophecies to Jesus in the old testament. Jesus was not the messiah of the o.t.

Ha! Again, You don't know what you are talking about.

What does this verse say?

Ps 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

The OT is FULL of Prophecies of Jesus and they were fulfilled in the NT.

[mtpockets]

If atheism is merely a lack of belief in God, Atheism is just a claim about the atheist’s state of mind, not a claim about Gods existence.

[ScottLefler]

Matter & Energy coming from nothing isn't Reality and contradicts the Science. Life coming from non Life isn't reality and contradicts the Science.

God is real. Jesus Christ is Lord. Submit your life to Him and be saved in the day of Judgement.

[mtpockets]

Matter & Energy coming from nothing isn't Reality and contradicts the Science. Life coming from non Life isn't reality and contradicts the Science.

God is real. Jesus Christ is Lord. Submit your life to Him and be saved in the day of Judgement.

[GeneralSerpant]

God is real. Jesus Christ is Lord. Submit your life to Him and be saved in the day of Judgement.

Kind of dramatic way of saying don’t be a tool, yeah?

[ScottLefler]

Kind of dramatic way of saying don’t be a tool, yeah?

Yeah, I think so.

[mtpockets]

[BlackJack619]

I don’t think anyone believes in the God you are describing.

I personally wouldn’t worship a God that could easily be put into a box. Why do you think we expect you to?

[GeneralSerpant]

I don’t think anyone believes in the God you are describing.

I personally wouldn’t worship a God that could easily be put into a box. Why do you think we expect you to?

Then why are people so vague so often about what God entails as far as real life is concerned? It's often very vague in dictation.