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    Poll: is mandated vax acceptable?

    Poll: is mandated vax acceptable?
    This thread is NOT a debate on whether the vax works for a particular purpose or if it is a 5G conspiracy or whether you like.. this.. or that.. or approve of...

    It is specifically a poll
    For debate please go to the many other threads we have

    Is mandating Covid Vax (for being able to go places or do things) justifiable?
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    According to US law, to enter certain businesses they can "require stuff."
    The easiest one that comes to mind was at the beach and the sign read," No shirt no shoes no service."
    So in a pandemic where people are afraid of a loss of breathing and getting wrecked, i guess it is justifiable.
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    In no way, shape or form should anyone tell you what to put in your body.

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    No one should be forced into a vaccine, if private entities want to enforce vaccine requirements, that is on them

    Most schools have been requiring up to date shots for years, once approved, I can see the covid vaccine falling in line perhaps.
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    Not if it's a government mandate. Private companies can mandate all day long if they wish.
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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    Not if it's a government mandate. Private companies can mandate all day long if they wish.
    100% it is still in the experimental stage after all
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    Probably should have posted this at the start
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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    This is just an observation, not directed at you, but I don't think anyone in this thread is on board with the mandate; there are just varying degrees of conviction. I could be wrong, but not feeling up to reading all of the posts again. Maybe we need to turn this thread into a poll thread.
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    Originally Posted by OldFartTom View Post
    Probably should have posted this at the start
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    According to US law, to enter certain businesses they can "require stuff."
    The easiest one that comes to mind was at the beach and the sign read," No shirt no shoes no service."
    So in a pandemic where people are afraid of a loss of breathing and getting wrecked, i guess it is justifiable.

    They should just have bubbles for guys like you.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    They should just have bubbles for guys like you.
    You don't know me, you just make up stories with no basis in fact without asking the real tough questions.
    Keep being creative and making chit up, kids need to be creative.

    Question 1 since you are not a bright guy.
    1. Do you have or are you exposed to *any people in your family* that you could *royally fk up* by being like LWW in regards to Covid-19 and lazy ass behaviors?
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    You don't know me, you just make up stories with no basis in fact without asking the real tough questions.
    Keep being creative and making chit up, kids need to be creative.

    Question 1 since you are not a bright guy.
    1. Do you have or are you exposed to *any people in your family* that you could *royally fk up* by being like LWW in regards to Covid-19 and lazy ass behaviors?

    I don't go around town breathing on people, in fact the only I ever did was wearing one of those god damn silly masks and I breathed in a fiber, does that make me "not very bright"? If I wasn't "forced" to wear the mask it would not of happened, but who gives a fuk anyway, it's not like I had Covid, are you seeing the hysteria yet? I doubt it.

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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    Not if it's a government mandate. Private companies can mandate all day long if they wish.
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    No for personal health reasons?

    The vax is so new and all the kinks aren't yet ironed out. I went to get it, then changed my mind due to an allergy to a certain medicine and I couldn't answer all of the doc's questions about it (bad allergic reaction when I was very young, I can't remember everything now), so decided to play it safe and opt out.
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    The majority said ‘no’.

    That means there’s some hope for this fukkin empire.

    Goddamn.

    Now I wonder if those who said ‘no’ have the ballz to fight and if necessary to DIE for freedom.
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    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post
    The majority said ‘no’.

    That means there’s some hope for this fukkin empire.

    Goddamn.

    Now I wonder if those who said ‘no’ have the ballz to fight and if necessary to DIE for freedom.
    Yes. From the hospital where my daughter works and from the hospitals of the doctors we had dinner last weekend, a lot of people are dying for their freedom. Every single one of them unvaccinated.

    A friend posted this from some doctor:

    "We have lost multiple patients. Each day. Every day this week. And the week is not over.
    Each patient nonvaccinated.
    Each with crying families asking us if we were sure we ‘did everything we could’.
    Each CHOSE not to get vaccinated.
    Each CHOSE to then come to the hospital to receive whatever we could do without asking about ‘long-term side effects’, how ‘quickly produced’ or what they ‘heard on Facebook’ about our medications and ventilators.
    We produced videos and did interviews with free time we did not have. Any of that time will now be spent caring for those who ignored our warnings.
    My colleagues and I will never be the same.
    The nurses, respiratory therapists and all involved in these patients’ care will never be the same. And we all expect it to get worse in the coming weeks.
    But please from the comfort of wherever you consume social media, tell us your opinion on COVId mortality, tell us your “cocktail” is the cure, tell us how we’re trying to violate your freedoms.
    Then tell us to “do everything you can” when that doesn’t work out so well. And we will. But we would prefer you get vaccinated."
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    Originally Posted by Gabbar99 View Post
    Yes. From the hospital where my daughter works and from the hospitals of the doctors we had dinner last weekend, a lot of people are dying for their freedom. Every single one of them unvaccinated.
    That is an incredibly bad idea and it would set a terrible precedent to give the government this kind of power. I don't want my freedom and decision space to be limited to only those options that our government deems prudent and acceptable. Freedom means being able to make your own choices, even if those choices aren't always the best ones.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    I don't go around town breathing on people, in fact the only I ever did was wearing one of those god damn silly masks and I breathed in a fiber, does that make me "not very bright"? If I wasn't "forced" to wear the mask it would not of happened, but who gives a fuk anyway, it's not like I had Covid, are you seeing the hysteria yet? I doubt it.

    I keep my distance at stores, If I was scared of the virus and saw a packed store, I'd not go in, hard fuking hard is that, it's hard for you and hail father Pockets!!!!
    We are not just talking about crowded stores and fibers from a mask. We are talking about what precautions you take to not fk up sicker people than you in your family. Of course you missed that point. I am not "that guy"who will infect them because I am too lazy to follow a few very annoying steps.

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    Originally Posted by Gabbar99 View Post
    Yes. From the hospital where my daughter works and from the hospitals of the doctors we had dinner last weekend, a lot of people are dying for their freedom. Every single one of them unvaccinated.

    A friend posted this from some doctor:

    "We have lost multiple patients. Each day. Every day this week. And the week is not over.
    Each patient nonvaccinated.
    Each with crying families asking us if we were sure we ‘did everything we could’.
    Each CHOSE not to get vaccinated.
    Each CHOSE to then come to the hospital to receive whatever we could do without asking about ‘long-term side effects’, how ‘quickly produced’ or what they ‘heard on Facebook’ about our medications and ventilators.
    We produced videos and did interviews with free time we did not have. Any of that time will now be spent caring for those who ignored our warnings.
    My colleagues and I will never be the same.
    The nurses, respiratory therapists and all involved in these patients’ care will never be the same. And we all expect it to get worse in the coming weeks.
    But please from the comfort of wherever you consume social media, tell us your opinion on COVId mortality, tell us your “cocktail” is the cure, tell us how we’re trying to violate your freedoms.
    Then tell us to “do everything you can” when that doesn’t work out so well. And we will. But we would prefer you get vaccinated."
    You think you're the only one who knows someone in the medical field, like your daughter?

    I know people who are nurses and doctors in the medical field who REFUSE to take the jab.

    So what is the right solution?

    The right solution is to allow people to make their own decision and live with the consequences without gubmint intervention. This has been by stance all this time. But people like you accuse me of being anti-vaxx. I am not anti-vaxx. I am pro-gubmint accountability and pro-big pharma transparency. Those who take the jab and get hurt cannot legally go after big pharma. Why does big gubmint protect big pharma?

    As far as people dying, both unjabbed and even those who have taken the jab can still die.

    Break down that doctor's statistics. I wonder what the demographic breakdown is? How many old people? How many with comorbidity.

    The facts. Not emotion. Facts. This is something that both sides should pursue.

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    That is an incredibly bad idea and it would set a terrible precedent to give the government this kind of power. I don't want my freedom and decision space to be limited to only those options that our government deems prudent and acceptable. Freedom means being able to make your own choices, even if those choices aren't always the best ones.
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    Originally Posted by Gabbar99 View Post
    Yes. From the hospital where my daughter works and from the hospitals of the doctors we had dinner last weekend, a lot of people are dying for their freedom. Every single one of them unvaccinated.
    While we are at it, we should ban smoking entirely. If someone is obese, they are no longer allowed to shop at the grocery store but are only given a food allowance by the government until their weight is under control. Bring back prohibition. People are dying for their freedom every day.
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    Originally Posted by Gabbar99 View Post
    Yes. From the hospital where my daughter works and from the hospitals of the doctors we had dinner last weekend, a lot of people are dying for their freedom. Every single one of them unvaccinated.

    A friend posted this from some doctor:

    "We have lost multiple patients. Each day. Every day this week. And the week is not over.
    Each patient nonvaccinated.
    Each with crying families asking us if we were sure we ‘did everything we could’.
    Each CHOSE not to get vaccinated.
    Each CHOSE to then come to the hospital to receive whatever we could do without asking about ‘long-term side effects’, how ‘quickly produced’ or what they ‘heard on Facebook’ about our medications and ventilators.
    We produced videos and did interviews with free time we did not have. Any of that time will now be spent caring for those who ignored our warnings.
    My colleagues and I will never be the same.
    The nurses, respiratory therapists and all involved in these patients’ care will never be the same. And we all expect it to get worse in the coming weeks.
    But please from the comfort of wherever you consume social media, tell us your opinion on COVId mortality, tell us your “cocktail” is the cure, tell us how we’re trying to violate your freedoms.
    Then tell us to “do everything you can” when that doesn’t work out so well. And we will. But we would prefer you get vaccinated."
    Was this the same sloot doctor who lied about patients begging for a vaccine before she put alert, conscious, breathing patients on a ventilator?
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    I think most of us agree with not forcing people to do it, but I have a question for you.
    If you owned a business and saw 500 or more people per day on average, what steps would you take to lessen potential variant exposure to yourself and others? Think of this as a school project, where the vaxx is not an issue but total prevention is.
    I have read lots on this topic and it appears that taking basic worldwide agreed upon steps is an infringement, so what do you do?
    You dont want your business to close down, you don't want your family to contract it, so then what?

    I am curious what you can come up with for prevention.



    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post
    You think you're the only one who knows someone in the medical field, like your daughter?

    I know people who are nurses and doctors in the medical field who REFUSE to take the jab.

    So what is the right solution?

    The right solution is to allow people to make their own decision and live with the consequences without gubmint intervention. This has been by stance all this time. But people like you accuse me of being anti-vaxx. I am not anti-vaxx. I am pro-gubmint accountability and pro-big pharma transparency. Those who take the jab and get hurt cannot legally go after big pharma. Why does big gubmint protect big pharma?

    As far as people dying, both unjabbed and even those who have taken the jab can still die.

    Break down that doctor's statistics. I wonder what the demographic breakdown is? How many old people? How many with comorbidity.

    The facts. Not emotion. Facts. This is something that both sides should pursue.



    Nailed it!!! ^^


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    Also, herp derp on those who think private companies should be able to mandate. Real private companies should be able to have the right to mandate. I agree with this 100%.

    PROBLEM IS MANY CORPORATIONS ARE AN EXTENSION OF GUBMINT. CORPORATIONS WHO GOT BAILED OUT ARE NOW UNDER THE CONTROL AND INFLUENCE OF GUBMINT. THINK PEOPLE!! United Airlines, for example, just announced it will make the jab mandatory for its employees. United got bailed out, remember???

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    According to US law, to enter certain businesses they can "require stuff."
    The easiest one that comes to mind was at the beach and the sign read," No shirt no shoes no service."
    So in a pandemic where people are afraid of a loss of breathing and getting wrecked, i guess it is justifiable.
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    CNN fires 3 employees for breaking mandatory COVID-19 vaccination policy

    CNN has fired three employees who violated company policy by coming to work unvaccinated against the COVID-19 virus.


    CNN chief Jeff Zucker told staff members of the firing in a memo sent Thursday that reminded them that vaccines were mandatory if they report to the office or out in the field where they come into contact with other employees.

    “Let me be clear — we have a zero tolerance policy on this,” wrote Zucker, chairman of news and sports for WarnerMedia.

    The CNN leader said that masks will be required in Atlanta, Washington and Los Angeles offices when people aren’t eating, drinking or in an enclosed private space. Even in offices where mask-wearing is not mandated, people should do what feels comfortable to them “without any fear of retaliation or judgment from co-workers,” he said.
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    Was this the same sloot doctor who lied about patients begging for a vaccine before she put alert, conscious, breathing patients on a ventilator?
    Different sloot doctor.
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    They should also deny entry for sagging pants.
    Maybe they should work legs for over 20 years and fix that, just sayin.
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    Maybe they should work legs for over 20 years and fix that, just sayin.
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