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    Suggest me one ab exercise

    So I don't spend much time on ab work as it bores me. Recommend me one ab exercise to do short and sweet that I can progress with. Just going to add a set or 2 after each workout. Something short and intense
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    So I don't spend much time on ab work as it bores me. Recommend me one ab exercise to do short and sweet that I can progress with. Just going to add a set or 2 after each workout. Something short and intense
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    Dragon flags. Most people cannot do many when they start. Hence, short and sweet. If you cannot do one with legs full extended then do the concentric portion with the knees/hips flexed and extend them as able on the eccentric portion.
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    Hanging knee raises
    I used to do my knee raises by having my elbows on pads and crank out loads of reps. Do you think it's much more beneficial to do it completely hanging from a pull up bar?
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    Dragon flags. Most people cannot do many when they start. Hence, short and sweet. If you cannot do one with legs full extended then do the concentric portion with the knees/hips flexed and extend them as able on the eccentric portion.
    Will definitely look into this. I've seen people swear by them
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    Build up to Standing rollouts.
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    Originally Posted by safcpaul View Post
    I used to do my knee raises by having my elbows on pads and crank out loads of reps. Do you think it's much more beneficial to do it completely hanging from a pull up bar?
    If you were lying on the floor doing them (was a bit unsure what you meant by elbows on pads), I’d think the hanging ones are more challenging if your form is on point. If they are too easy you can weight them by holding a dumbbell with your feet and then increasing the weight of the dumbbell over time as you get stronger.

    If you can do dragon flags instead that’s great, but I would guess these would be extremely challenging for tall guys to pull off so maybe easier to progress on some other movement.
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    It's not an iso and not the only game in town for sure, but deadlift (or squat).

    Short and intense. Not sure what the rest of your programming is like but one heavy set at the end of the workout may be a reasonable addition.
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    Wheel rollouts or front squat iso holds (has to be front loaded, bar on the back isn’t going to tax the abs very much) SSB iso holds are also acceptable

    Also, crunches and variations of crunches > any kind of leg/knee raises (which mostly work the hip flexors, unless you go past 90 degrees, which most people don’t)
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    Originally Posted by BeginnerGainz View Post
    Wheel rollouts or front squat iso holds (has to be front loaded, bar on the back isn’t going to tax the abs very much) SSB iso holds are also acceptable

    Also, crunches and variations of crunches > any kind of leg/knee raises (which mostly work the hip flexors, unless you go past 90 degrees, which most people don’t)
    I bring my knees as close to my chest as possible and it should be obvious that full ROM is superior to partial ROM...

    I’d also expect crunches to be worse for the spine but don’t have any strong data to back this one up.
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    I bring my knees as close to my chest as possible and it should be obvious that full ROM is superior to partial ROM...

    I’d also expect crunches to be worse for the spine but don’t have any strong data to back this one up.
    Well yeah full rom for the most part is best, but what I meant was that leg raises are mostly hip flexors until you get the legs past 90 degrees.

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    So I don't spend much time on ab work as it bores me. Recommend me one ab exercise to do short and sweet that I can progress with. Just going to add a set or 2 after each workout. Something short and intense
    You can try mountain climber exercise.
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    Build up to Standing rollouts.
    How would the progression go from kneeling to standing mate?
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    Originally Posted by EiFit91 View Post
    If you were lying on the floor doing them (was a bit unsure what you meant by elbows on pads), I’d think the hanging ones are more challenging if your form is on point. If they are too easy you can weight them by holding a dumbbell with your feet and then increasing the weight of the dumbbell over time as you get stronger.

    If you can do dragon flags instead that’s great, but I would guess these would be extremely challenging for tall guys to pull off so maybe easier to progress on some other movement.
    Elbows on pads as in sitting upright. I dont know if you call it a Roman chair maybe? I've never tried dragon flags. Interested to give them a go
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    It's not an iso and not the only game in town for sure, but deadlift (or squat).

    Short and intense. Not sure what the rest of your programming is like but one heavy set at the end of the workout may be a reasonable addition.
    Heavy squats will always be a part of my routine mate. I love inflicting myself with pain haha
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    Another one if you can set it up is decline sit-ups. I find it challenging to do 10 when I am at a decline >=60 degrees.
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    Originally Posted by safcpaul View Post
    So I don't spend much time on ab work as it bores me. Recommend me one ab exercise to do short and sweet that I can progress with. Just going to add a set or 2 after each workout. Something short and intense
    try this exercise and I'm sure you will get good results:
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    A simple and straightforward one that I think conditions pretty immediately, is where you lie on your back on the floor and hold your legs/feet close to the ground without touching. Do a straight leg raise, lower, and repeat without touching. The longer you hold them there is the point.
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    Originally Posted by safcpaul View Post
    Heavy squats will always be a part of my routine mate. I love inflicting myself with pain haha
    Then I doubt you need too much direct core work honestly lol.

    The wheel rollouts are brutal, though.

    One thing I used to do when I was lean is weighted decline sit-ups. Did them every workout. Would get on a decline bench holding a 45 plate, and then do a set of 15, 12, 9, 6, and 3.

    For some reason I stopped caring about abs when they stopped being visible...
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