Saturated fat and testosterone

[paulinkansas]

There are many people I work with from India with 'sh*t' in their first name

Meetings are fun

Do they have fans in their offices?

[EiFit91]

Nice!

Yes evidence based is what I do as well however I take it a step further and make sure it’s working for me. If I’m paying for it long term I want to know what’s working in my body.

Check out my t booster thread in the supplement forum where I have blood drawn every 4 and 8 weeks respectively over the course of this last year. Times of blood draw is listed on screenshot along with my age, etc.

Just did a statistical test of the hypothesis that there is no difference in total testosterone for your bloodwork data. Used all OFF and ON readings that were taken after you started working out again. Results attached. I may have missed some readings. Used the following:

OFF readings: 724, 1016, 937, 724
ON readings: 1092, 921, 1071

[ManwittaPlan]

Just did a statistical test of the hypothesis that there is no difference in total testosterone for your bloodwork data. Used all OFF and ON readings that were taken after you started working out again. Results attached. I may have missed some readings. Used the following:

OFF readings: 724, 1016, 937, 724
ON readings: 1092, 921, 1071

Try it with the free 😉

Free test is what you have access to

[EiFit91]

Try it with the free 😉

Free test is what you have access to

Do it yourself!

If I include the two data points prior to you starting doing strength training I do obtain a (just) "statistically significant" difference. But I would interpret that as suggesting that your testosterone maybe increased when you started training again.

[EiFit91]

[EliKoehn]

Maybe he wasn't bluffing and he actually decided to leave.

[EiFit91]

Maybe he wasn't bluffing and he actually decided to leave.

Someone should start a «the health benefits of red meat and eggs for breakfast daily» thread, since my attempt at summoning him seems to have failed.

Paul, MwaP, which one of you would like the honor?

[EliKoehn]

Hey, I eat red meat and eggs every day!

[paulinkansas]

Someone should start a «the health benefits of red meat and eggs for breakfast daily» thread, since my attempt at summoning him seems to have failed.

Paul, MwaP, which one of you would like the honor?

I'm already doing the "dozen oysters a day for 30 days" experiment. If I did the red meat and eggs experiment at the same time, the source of any benefits can not be deduced from either the oysters or the red meat/eggs.

[AdamWW]

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[EiFit91]

Hey, I eat red meat and eggs every day!

I think I have unconsciously reduced my consumption of both since joining this forum. I suspect both Adam and mrpb are funded by the Vegan board.

[EiFit91]

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«Please estimate my BF%»

[EliKoehn]

I think I have unconsciously reduced my consumption of both since joining this forum. I suspect both Adam and mrpb are rundes by the Vegan board.

I cut the red meat down seriously while cutting, since it's just not an efficient way to get the same amount of protein, and I'd rather have the difference in carbs so my training doesn't suffer.

Like you have said, I have a big appetite and would rather eat 4 bowls of egg white rice stuff than a small cheeseburger, easily.

[EiFit91]

I cut the red meat down seriously while cutting, since it's just not an efficient way to get the same amount of protein, and I'd rather have the difference in carbs so my training doesn't suffer.

Like you have said, I have a big appetite and would rather eat 4 bowls of egg white rice stuff than a small cheeseburger, easily.

But I’d rather have 4 cheeseburgers than 4 bowls of egg and rice

[AdamWW]

«Please estimate my BF%»

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[EliKoehn]

But I’d rather have 4 cheeseburgers than 4 bowls of egg and rice

Hence the dilemma lol. But between the two, I'd rather at least be full. I'd rather fill my stomach with decently tasting food than have to confine myself to tiny portions of rich food. Personal preference, of course. Some people seem to do better with the other method of restriction.

[EiFit91]

elbows too pointy

Inb4 some guy writes «that guy looks like he doesn’t even lift and got a lower estimate than me!»

[EiFit91]

Hence the dilemma lol. But between the two, I'd rather at least be full. I'd rather fill my stomach with decently tasting food than have to confine myself to tiny portions of rich food. Personal preference, of course. Some people seem to do better with the other method of restriction.

For fullness I definitely agree. For me the main problem is that the «fullness» feeling takes a lot of time to arrive after a meal. So there is a very large time window where I could potentially eat a ton of food without feeling full.

So I opt for several meals high in protein and meals rich in vegetables for dinner, and spread these throughout the day.

I find whole eggs incredibly filling and that’s one of the reasons I still eat plenty of eggs.

[JUSA]

But it might be that pencil guys are just more likely to be drawn to vegetarianism.

Not as true with vegetarianism, but veganism at least, it's not only low in saturated fats but generally low in fats overall. Only so many nuts and avocados one can eat in a day and every vegan I've ever seen hasn't really gone out of their way to consume those foods.

[AdamWW]

Not as true with vegetarianism, but veganism at least, it's not only low in saturated fats but generally low in fats overall. Only so many nuts and avocados one can eat in a day and every vegan I've ever seen hasn't really gone out of their way to consume those foods.

That really wasn't my experience when I was on a 100% vegan diet for almost 3 years...

Fats are insanely easy on a vegan diet... peanut butter, tofu, guacamole, and basically any oil, plus all the vegan alternative stuff is usually pretty high in fat, too.

It's mainly the HCLF vegans that have problems IMO

[ManwittaPlan]

Do it yourself!

If I include the two data points prior to you starting doing strength training I do obtain a (just) "statistically significant" difference. But I would interpret that as suggesting that your testosterone maybe increased when you started training again.

My free about doubled

[ManwittaPlan]

Someone should start a «the health benefits of red meat and eggs for breakfast daily» thread, since my attempt at summoning him seems to have failed.

Paul, MwaP, which one of you would like the honor?

I’ll do one a bit different but related, you guys will like this one.

[ManwittaPlan]

That really wasn't my experience when I was on a 100% vegan diet for almost 3 years...

Fats are insanely easy on a vegan diet... peanut butter, tofu, guacamole, and basically any oil, plus all the vegan alternative stuff is usually pretty high in fat, too.

It's mainly the HCLF vegans that have problems IMO

What’s hclf?

[EiFit91]

What’s hclf?

«High carb low fat» according to google...

How anyone could sustain such a diet is a mystery to me. I completely tank if I go low fat.

[ManwittaPlan]

«High carb low fat» according to google...

How anyone could sustain such a diet is a mystery to me. I completely tank if I go low fat.

Golden era of bodybuilding used to be big on quality fat, such as those found in Vince Gironda’s hormone precursor shake!

Adam chugged one and actually wrestled a bear afterwards….the bear is now his butler.

[EiFit91]

Golden era of bodybuilding used to be big on quality fat, such as those found in Vince Gironda’s hormone precursor shake!

Adam chugged one and actually wrestled a bear afterwards….the bear is now his butler.

I am still waiting for the thread that will summon mrpb...

[paulinkansas]

Vince Gironda’s hormone precursor shake!
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I was cleaning out a refrigerator an hour ago and found a jug of Egg Beaters. That got me thinking. What if someone drank a quart of Egg Beaters each day throughout the day? Think that might be somewhat of a hormone precursor? When my 30 day experiment with 12 oysters a day is over, I may drink a quart of Egg Beaters a day for 30 days.

[air2fakie]

I am still waiting for the thread that will summon mrpb...

It'll be the one where you and AW post your TikTok duet serenading him as follows. (I guarantee he'll return upon seeing it)

[EiFit91]

I was cleaning out a refrigerator an hour ago and found a jug of Egg Beaters. That got me thinking. What if someone drank a quart of Egg Beaters each day throughout the day? Think that might be somewhat of a hormone precursor? When my 30 day experiment with 12 oysters a day is over, I may drink a quart of Egg Beaters a day for 30 days.

After the hormone precursor thread, I started trying to buy only fertilized eggs. So you guys are having a bad influence on me. I try to be scientific, but I am torn between the broscience and the science.

[EliKoehn]

After the hormone precursor thread, I started trying to buy only fertilized eggs. So you guys are having a bad influence on me. I try to be scientific, but I am torn between the broscience and the science.

Hint: they wear lab coats because they can't fill out a regular shirt.

Only buy Vince Approvedâ„¢ fertilized eggs, if you don't want to encounter the same fate.