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    Legit question. If the vaccine was this easy....

    Why isn't it equally simple to have a 95% effective vaccine for every virus?

    Quote about Moderna that's been written multiple places this week:

    Developing a vaccine in warp speed was once measured in years. Not anymore. Within 48 hours of receiving the COVID-19 genome sequence from Chinese scientists Jan. 10, a Massachusetts biotechnology company that had never brought a drug to market mapped out a vaccine.
    So why isn't it this easy for every cold strain, flu strain, HIV, etc?
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    Because this virus was politicized and monetized from the start.
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    The hope is that it will be moving forward.

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    This vax is so safe that you have to wait in a room after you get it, because otherwise the safety might overwhelm your system.
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    Because the entire world threw hundreds of billions at Covid so that gave companies blank checks to develop vaccines. And cause MRNA is a relatively new technology and we just now are seeing the rewards of the past two decades spent researching it. I think many new viruses will be fought against with MRNA tech. Truly a scientific wonder.
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    cold & flu are too rapidly changing for one vaccine to be effective. Genetic recombination too strong.

    hiv is the sort of the same way plus it's a retrovirus which means it splices its viral rna into your dna making a permanent home.

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    Originally Posted by Better Unborn View Post
    cold & flu are too rapidly changing for one vaccine to be effective. Genetic recombination too strong.

    hiv is the sort of the same way plus it's a retrovirus which means it splices its viral rna into your dna making a permanent home.

    no covidshill
    Shhh. When people make threads like these, they aren't looking for legitimate answers. They just want to peddle their views.
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    Originally Posted by Tanerian View Post
    Shhh. When people make threads like these, they aren't looking for legitimate answers. They just want to peddle their views.
    feeling cute might do just one shot of pfizer later.
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    Originally Posted by Tanerian View Post
    Shhh. When people make threads like these, they aren't looking for legitimate answers. They just want to peddle their views.
    No, I'm legitimately curious.

    Although I don't think the often repeated answer of "they had unlimited billions of dollars to develop it" sticks when it took them 48 hours of work and the rest was safety trials.
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    The trials have not ended, the current injections ARE the trials. All standard regulations and restrictions were lifted by a "state of emergency"

    Normally this **** would never get past clinical trials or would take 5-10 years before it's deemed safe enough.
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    The pressure of the situation, the budget, past researches, you name it. A lot has contributed to the speed and efficacy of the vaccine roll-out.
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    People who get the vaccine ARE the RESEARCH.

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    Some people don't understand those simple facts.
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    Normal approval process is 3-5 years of animal trials, followed by 3-5 years of human trials. Every previous mRNa "vaccine" candidate was withdrawn before or during animal trials due to lack of efficacy combined with serious safety concerns. Commercial use of a mRNA "vaccine" in chickens resulted in almost 100% mortality within a few months due to antibody depebdent enhancement.
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    Originally Posted by Better Unborn View Post
    cold & flu are too rapidly changing for one vaccine to be effective. Genetic recombination too strong.

    hiv is the sort of the same way plus it's a retrovirus which means it splices its viral rna into your dna making a permanent home.

    no covidshill
    So the cold, which is also caused by strains of older corona viruses, is rapidly changing huh?

    Is COVID-19 exempt from that or...
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    Originally Posted by Better Unborn View Post
    cold & flu are too rapidly changing for one vaccine to be effective. Genetic recombination too strong.

    hiv is the sort of the same way plus it's a retrovirus which means it splices its viral rna into your dna making a permanent home.

    no covidshill
    This. I read a paper recently that common cold viruses have been completely unaffected by lockdown measures in terms of circulation and spread. These viruses have evolved over thousands of years to be what they are: extremely contagious/efficient spreaders with low lethality. Perfect for their own survival. There is no reason to develop a vaccine for them and even if there was, it would be rendered ineffective quickly because many of the 100s of strains that cause the common cold can swap genes with eachother in addition to their fast mutation rate and endemic circulation.
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    Originally Posted by WeDoPullups View Post
    So the cold, which is also caused by strains of older corona viruses, is rapidly changing huh?

    Is COVID-19 exempt from that or...
    Covid-19 is a truly unique and novel virus that is totally unlike other viruses. It doesn't mutate, except for when you get the new "variants" coming from all over the world that the vaccine is apparently harmless against. But it's fine, because the vaccine is needed to stop covid-19.
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    Originally Posted by Antoine99 View Post
    This vax is so safe that you have to wait in a room after you get it, because otherwise the safety might overwhelm your system.


    lol

    all for a virus most people need a test to know if they even have it


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    Originally Posted by Devils View Post
    The trials have not ended, the current injections ARE the trials. All standard regulations and restrictions were lifted by a "state of emergency"

    Normally this **** would never get past clinical trials or would take 5-10 years before it's deemed safe enough.
    Ding ding.

    It’s much easier to push it out without testing properly and knowing you can’t be blamed.

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    Originally Posted by LinuxJon View Post
    Why isn't it equally simple to have a 95% effective vaccine for every virus?

    Quote about Moderna that's been written multiple places this week:



    So why isn't it this easy for every cold strain, flu strain, HIV, etc?
    Because the sars-covid is already a fairly well known virus so was PROBABLY pretty easy HEARD that they REAL efficiency is like 0.1% SRS. WAY under the 95% effectiveness they claimed and OUR immune system is 99.99% effective

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    Originally Posted by OatSlap View Post
    People who get the vaccine ARE the RESEARCH.

    YOU ARE THE TRIAL.

    Have fun.

    Some people don't understand those simple facts.
    The experimental vaccine was quick to have volunteers.

    Makes you think why they don't put as much effort into the other vaccines and the recently created hpv vaccine.
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    Originally Posted by WeDoPullups View Post
    So the cold, which is also caused by strains of older corona viruses, is rapidly changing huh?

    Is COVID-19 exempt from that or...
    I don't think hrv and covid are in the same family or even order...

    But also yeah I wouldn't be surprised if covid sticks around similar to common cold
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Normal approval process is 3-5 years of animal trials, followed by 3-5 years of human trials. Every previous mRNa "vaccine" candidate was withdrawn before or during animal trials due to lack of efficacy combined with serious safety concerns. Commercial use of a mRNA "vaccine" in chickens resulted in almost 100% mortality within a few months due to antibody depebdent enhancement.
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