As you got older did you find yourself caring less? srs

[GMiscer]

37 now and don't understand guys my age and older who are out there still grinding it out

There are guys in their 50's with as much motivation, ambition, and idealism that they had in their 20's

Somewhere around my mid 20's I decided it just wasn't worth it and gave up playing the game

A decade later that decision hasn't changed

Other guys my age now have families, careers, homes...all the things you're "supposed" to have achieved according to society as you get into your middle ages

Meanwhile I'm basically the same guy now that I was when I was in my 20's

[MisquePhaggot]

GMiscer is a manifestation of every single miscers thoughts

[Toker095]

Op playing the long game

[r32gojirra]

Meanwhile I'm basically the same guy now that I was when I was in my 20's

Sure, minus the glow, test levels or prospects

But otherwise basically the same

[sapdori]

Sure, minus the glow, test levels or prospects

But otherwise basically the same

How old are you?

[Arem24]

Oof sounds kind of sad tbh.

And since when is having kids, a career, and a house an accomplishment. The majority of them are mid level losers that have themselves given up. They’re also bogged down with their potential compromised by decisions that resulted in a family rather than assets that can be leveraged (this includes time and energy).

No kiddos or a wife here, but at 33 that gives me the opportunity to life max. Gym at 5:30 this morning, nice morning walk and read The Economist over breakfast, coffee with a 25 year old 8/10 graduating this week with her masters in architecture, hosted an investor meeting with a group from California and Massachusetts that came out to kiss the ring so to speak, relaxing before hitting the gym tmw with the main wifey prospect and wrap up the last of my MBA project before unwinding and some meditation and focused reading before the week ahead.

I guess video games and beer is fun in your 30’s too? Lol.

Btw, the new power move is hosting pitches and potential investors for a new business inside of an already existing business you own lol.

[DoYouEvenNEM]

So long as you're not a drug addicted bum almost everyone gets a house in the west. It's called saving $100K (more accurately inheriting for most) and using that as a deposit on a home. And of course selling it for a massive profit because western countries will keep the immigrants coming in matter what and severely restricting building zone / zoning laws.


Likewise a career is only an accomplishment if you get to the top. Does anyone care who the Oral-B marketing vice president was 20 years ago?

[Arem24]

So long as you're not a drug addicted bum almost everyone gets a house in the west. It's called saving $100K (more accurately inheriting for most) and using that as a deposit on a home. And of course selling it for a massive profit because western countries will keep the immigrants coming in matter what and severely restricting building zone / zoning laws.


Likewise a career is only an accomplishment if you get to the top. Does anyone care who the Oral-B marketing vice president was 20 years ago?

To be uncommon among uncommon people should be the attainable goal in respects to profession, physical accomplishments, general life status.

[44344]

I gave up because I'm a short bald aspie with weak bone structure and I'm circumcucked.

[moosik85]

Oof sounds kind of sad tbh.

And since when is having kids, a career, and a house an accomplishment. The majority of them are mid level losers that have themselves given up. They’re also bogged down with their potential compromised by decisions that resulted in a family rather than assets that can be leveraged (this includes time and energy).

No kiddos or a wife here, but at 33 that gives me the opportunity to life max. Gym at 5:30 this morning, nice morning walk and read The Economist over breakfast, coffee with a 25 year old 8/10 graduating this week with her masters in architecture, hosted an investor meeting with a group from California and Massachusetts that came out to kiss the ring so to speak, relaxing before hitting the gym tmw with the main wifey prospect and wrap up the last of my MBA project before unwinding and some meditation and focused reading before the week ahead.

I guess video games and beer is fun in your 30’s too? Lol.

Btw, the new power move is hosting pitches and potential investors for a new business inside of an already existing business you own lol.

You literally failed at life’s number 1 directive....

[BeanGainClovis]

I find that I am the opposite. I had less worries when I was younger, as I grew older I began to realize the gravity of our situation. It became increasingly difficult to not just give up and give in to certain material pressures, but I am glad that I haven't.

There is a popular notion that a man's ambition is about the personal attainment of wealth and power. I think a deeper drive is to be a great man in the sense of your deeds, greatness in the sense of going beyond just being a good man.

I think when a man has been to a very low state of existence they can never be satisfied with mediocrity. You either stay down, are destroyed completely, or you reach the opposite end. There is no middle ground.

[DoYouEvenNEM]

You literally failed at life’s number 1 directive....

Genetics isn't a dead end like that. Siblings and cousins share your DNA. It literally takes an outright genocide to somehow remove your genetics like that.


Also remember 99% of people in western countries (ignore outliers like Iceland with great genealogical records) can't name their 8 Great Grandparents let alone 16 Great Great Grandparents and their hobbies, friends, jobs, etc.

There's a lot of people who had Great Grandparents that were alive when they were born. So you could argue since those G-Grandparents they knew their parents that Great Great Grandparents were technically in "living memory" / "relevant memory".


It's almost as if in 100 years we all disappear unless royalty or a huge celebrity of our era.

[Arem24]

You literally failed at life’s number 1 directive....

Right, because there aren’t a bunch of 24 year olds being freshly minted with their PharmDs or CPAs looking to fit comfortably into the life of someone established, lmao.

In your 30’s if you’re in control of your destiny, your phone should be a Rolodex of women willing to drop everything for a chance to be a passenger on your rocket ship. Seriously.

[yieldtonothing]

You literally failed at life’s number 1 directive....

take it easy.

life is what you make it. sometimes you want to do something, but then you have to pivot due to the situation around you.

there are a lot of things that sound "right" fundamentally, but then when you try to achieve them in practice, you realize that maybe these aren't the things one should be pursuing depending on the time and place one was born.

[phaginator]

A big part of it is not your fault though. Anyway, in the end your "accomplishments" mean jack sh*t. Do what you want instead of being the next average Joe who followed the "plan" and feels more unhappy than anyone.

Also understand this concept that "grass is greener on the other side"...it only looks that way. Be happy you're healthy and a man, you can do what you want and still start a family but I doubt your really want to.

[iputyouatapoint]

37 now and don't understand guys my age and older who are out there still grinding it out

There are guys in their 50's with as much motivation, ambition, and idealism that they had in their 20's

Somewhere around my mid 20's I decided it just wasn't worth it and gave up playing the game

A decade later that decision hasn't changed

Other guys my age now have families, careers, homes...all the things you're "supposed" to have achieved according to society as you get into your middle ages

Meanwhile I'm basically the same guy now that I was when I was in my 20's

Im 27, reaching my prime at 38, but no, I see things in a hopeful, good light now.

[maori-rap]

I own my own home, and have a job, but not a 'career' or a family. The job I work in is not really a career as there is no identifiable ladder to the next step. I don't see getting married as an achievement per say, more of a lifestyle choice and way of life.

I've always been low ambition/low drive and never really eagerly chased anything in terms of career choices, travelling, further education etc. For most of my 20s I simply 'existed' rather than 'lived'

[sapdori]

I own my own home, and have a job, but not a 'career' or a family. The job I work in is not really a career as there is no identifiable ladder to the next step. I don't see getting married as an achievement per say, more of a lifestyle choice and way of life.

I've always been low ambition/low drive and never really eagerly chased anything in terms of career choices, travelling, further education etc. For most of my 20s I simply 'existed' rather than 'lived'

What did you do with your free time. Not even banging hoes?

[SettingOff]

What did you do with your free time

misc

[DoYouEvenNEM]

What did you do with your free time. Not even banging hoes?

Don't know how to gif but I'm thinking of that guy in the VR racing car simulator lol

[EoR]

I am learning to bail on argument on people I know cannot be reasoned with. Even on the misc I would sometimes try a bit too hard to convince someone - while also questioning myself to avoid being a narcissistic. Sometimes you just have to let things go and only worry about people you care about. There are plenty of posters than could be replaced with a simple script so why even bother when you know their response?

Usually if I ignore someone after a few attempts or I am giving neutral responses it just means I don't care about them or respect their opinion. If I am arguing with a bit of passion IRL then it's because I know someone is smart enough to change their perspective or perhaps convince myself.

A lot of issues we are going through as usual, including religion, race etc are not going to solve or even curved in our generation either. That's not to say you should sit aside and do nothing, but certainly there's no point involving yourself if there's no possible negative consequences in the immediate future.

I am definitely not condoning doing nothing because many countries and states are permanently ruined because people just sit by comatose thinking something will brush over. With each passing year given you're not a retard you will learn to distinguish what needs attention+effort and what doesn't.

[BLOATMOGGER]

I am learning to bail on argument on people I know cannot be reasoned with. Even on the misc I would sometimes try a bit too hard to convince someone - while also questioning myself to avoid being a narcissistic. Sometimes you just have to let things go and only worry about people you care about. There are plenty of posters than could be replaced with a simple script so why even bother when you know their response?

Usually if I ignore someone after a few attempts or I am giving neutral responses it just means I don't care about them or respect their opinion. If I am arguing with a bit of passion IRL then it's because I know someone is smart enough to change their perspective or perhaps convince myself.

A lot of issues we are going through as usual, including religion, race etc are not going to solve or even curved in our generation either. That's not to say you should sit aside and do nothing, but certainly there's no point involving yourself if there's no possible negative consequences in the immediate future.

I am definitely not condoning doing nothing because many countries and states are permanently ruined because people just sit by comatose thinking something will brush over. With each passing year given you're not a retard you will learn to distinguish what needs attention+effort and what doesn't.

There's also the issue you have no idea who you are arguing with online.

You could be arguing with a 12 year old or a person with literal mental disabilities.

Better to just let it go.

[LethalGunz34]

I’m 37 and have more ambition and desire than ever before. Can’t stop, won’t stop. (Srs)

[SillieBazzillie]

Never stop competing. Career, hobbies, women, whatever.

The urge to better ourselves is what makes life great. Can't stand lazy phuks who lay down and rot.

[iputyouatapoint]

I own my own home, and have a job, but not a 'career' or a family. The job I work in is not really a career as there is no identifiable ladder to the next step. I don't see getting married as an achievement per say, more of a lifestyle choice and way of life.

I've always been low ambition/low drive and never really eagerly chased anything in terms of career choices, travelling, further education etc. For most of my 20s I simply 'existed' rather than 'lived'

That's pretty thoughtful. I even went homeless and adventured in NYC winter lands to figure things out. Now o have a small, becoming successful (and instagram). I used my body and face (who I am) to model and gain followers, but hey, it's good, I have some loyal followers who I love, and I'm happy and may very well make money on sn the account one day.

[Cr45]

Different types of competing. I met a guy while looking for jobs in my "industry". He owns a big successful chain of medical practices. Pulling in bank I'm sure. In his 50s.

Him and his brother dump all their time into this business. Did it pay off ? Ya sure. But they are total slaves.
He joked about how he's so driven and just "goes goes goes". He cares so much about the business that his marriage failed.

So he's 5'5" fat bald. Probably pulls in 500k to 1mil.
I don't have that kind of drive. I will probably eventually be an "owner" but more money more headaches. More managing people. More stress. Even though I don't have his basic genetic problems I don't think I would want his kind of lifestyle just to make 500k a year

His life still seems like it sucks.

[DoYouEvenNEM]

Different types of competing. I met a guy while looking for jobs in my "industry". He owns a big successful chain of medical practices. Pulling in bank I'm sure. In his 50s.

Him and his brother dump all their time into this business. Did it pay off ? Ya sure. But they are total slaves.
He joked about how he's so driven and just "goes goes goes". He cares so much about the business that his marriage failed.

So he's 5'5" fat bald. Probably pulls in 500k to 1mil.
I don't have that kind of drive. I will probably eventually be an "owner" but more money more headaches. More managing people. More stress. Even though I don't have his basic genetic problems I don't think I would want his kind of lifestyle just to make 500k a year

His life still seems like it sucks.

I think we all know people like that. I don't necessarily hold it against them. Like if they quit then what? LDAR and play video games, watch Netflix or go to Philippines to bang 18 year olds for awhile?

The reality is the things we associate with leisurely rich dudes are only possible if your net worth is $30+ million. I'm talking buying and renting yachts and staying in nice resorts everyday or renting villas.

[Gios]

I care more about the past than the future.

[Cr45]

I think we all know people like that. I don't necessarily hold it against them. Like if they quit then what? LDAR and play video games, watch Netflix or go to Philippines to bang 18 year olds for awhile?

The reality is the things we associate with leisurely rich dudes are only possible if your net worth is $30+ million. I'm talking buying and renting yachts and staying in nice resorts everyday or renting villas.

True true. On the other hand I have an ex uncle (ex wife is my aunt) who manages ultra rich people's money. Even after the divorce I'm sure he has 10s of millions. He dumped my neurotic aunt while in their 60s and married his 40 something assisstant with big titties, lives in Miami, owns a mega yacht. I'm sure he feels ok with his life and I'm a bit jelly