CDC: Only 5% of covid deaths are from covid

[Weightaholic]

False. April 14th 2020 - CDC directed all medical professionals to list ALL DEATH CASES as covid. This was at the direction of an obscure group called CSTE (counsel state and territorial epidemiologists). Plausible deniability if rational people ever validity of statistical probability.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/

“As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement issued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease.”

https://www.cste.org/news/500750/CST...e-NNC-List.htm

That's a fcking lie and it's not what the position statement says.

[JUSA]

Reading comprehension of piss, I just don't even. The fact that someone has multiple other comorbities doesn't mean that the virus didn't kill them.

Go away with your reasoning and logic, we'll have none of that here.

I think the concern is, when someone has cancer and gets the flu and dies: cancer is listed as the cause. Meanwhile, someone with covid falls down a flight of stairs and breaks their neck and dies: counted as covid.

Do you think by counting covid using different parameters likely grossly inflated the hype or not?

[JUSA]

I wonder what % of the US adult population would be defined as having comorbidities. Would def be interested if someone has the stat. I'm guessing its around 80%

iirc: roughly 60%

[xbluexhawkx]

That's a fcking lie and it's not what the position statement says.

you think Paul Kreul understands anything he posts?

[JUSA]

Something like 45% of people that die of covid also have either pneumonia or the flu

Covid almost certainly causes that pneumonia though, or at least often, no?

IMO: someone said x3-x5 flu earlier. I’d say more like x3 or less. Bad but not worth nearly this hysterical reaction or killing the economy and mental strain of locking down.

[Paul Kreul]

That's a fcking lie and it's not what the position statement says.

Lol, how the fuk are you going to call it a lie, it’s right there in black & white.

“As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement issued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease.”


Cope harder.

[Paul Kreul]

you think Paul Kreul understands anything he posts?

Dude, you are the biggest fukin moron on this forum, & it’s not even a competition. Look at people that respond to you..you’re a larp. going off your age & post history it has become abundantly obvious you are the reason why the “no child left behind program” was established. Please, don’t contaminate the gene pool with your seed. Thanks.

[Paul Kreul]

Pretty simple maths, compare the all deaths stats for last year versus all deaths averages for previous years, that will give you a reasonable idea of numbers.

Again, like a dipchit you are attributing increase in deaths to Covid deaths, when we know how much lockdowns affected overall death rate, not to mention, as I stated before..Death numbers SHOULD be going up at this time, with a 78 year average life expectancy and considering the world wide crash and then the huge boom in the 40's. The demographics alone would have given us higher deaths this year with an expectation of it rising over the next three or four years based solely on the fact that those born at the height of the post-war boom (1946-1952) are now reaching the statistical probability of death.

We would see a natural jump right now if only due to this fact of demographics. But hey..It’s been a pleasure speaking with with the poster child for the pro-choice movement.

[LizzieTish]

I literally just got back from a cardiac arrest where a 38 year old guy was positive for covid, had just gotten out of the hospital 3 days ago, and he dropped dead in his living room.

Did he have one of "the shots"? If he did that's what caused the cardiac arrest. "Positive" for covid is total bull**** because the PCR "test" generates 97% FALSE POSITIVES.

[Paul Kreul]

Did he have one of "the shots"? If he did that's what caused the cardiac arrest. "Positive" for covid is total bull**** because the PCR "test" generates 97% FALSE POSITIVES.

Went to Sturgis last year & 3 people died in motorcycle accidents on the spot. They were counted as Xovid deaths. All the families sued..just goes back to prove the truth of the guidelines I posted. All deaths=Covid deaths.

[Sterilite]

Went to Sturgis last year & 3 people died in motorcycle accidents on the spot. They were counted as Xovid deaths. All the families sued..just goes back to prove the truth of the guidelines I posted. All deaths=Covid deaths.

any news on this?

[Realclout]

I saw this SRS, It's all falling apart SRS. fook cuckvid-19 SRS.

[p100]

Listen up losers. Lots of people die when there is a new disease. This is how evolution works. People say Europeans are evil for giving diseases to Indians and wiping them out. Do you know how many Europeans had to die to gain their immune systems? How many millions of European children died due to the same greed that drove Europeans to kill the native americans?

New diseases means people die. No amount of vaccines will make the covid susceptible less susceptible to covid. We just need to accept the losses (which are positive for humanity as a whole) and move on like every living being has since the beginning of the universe.

[Weightaholic]

Lol, how the fuk are you going to call it a lie, it’s right there in black & white.

“As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement issued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease.”


Cope harder.

Are you legitimately retarded? That doesn't mean "count every death in the USA as Covid".

[Paul Kreul]

Are you legitimately retarded? That doesn't mean "count every death in the USA as Covid".

No fukin chit moron..
“confirmed case or death is defined by meeting confirmatory laboratory evidence for COVID-19. A probable case or death is defined by i) meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19; or ii) meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence”


Did you read that?
“with no confirmatory laboratory testing”

The US CDC (and Worldometer) has always used the label "Total Cases." Canada is another example where the "total number includes publicly reported confirmed and probable cases



You clearly have not been burdened by an overabundance of education.

[Realclout]

Listen up losers. Lots of people die when there is a new disease. This is how evolution works. People say Europeans are evil for giving diseases to Indians and wiping them out. Do you know how many Europeans had to die to gain their immune systems? How many millions of European children died due to the same greed that drove Europeans to kill the native americans?

New diseases means people die. No amount of vaccines will make the covid susceptible less susceptible to covid. We just need to accept the losses (which are positive for humanity as a whole) and move on like every living being has since the beginning of the universe.

It's not a new disease corona virus is one of the three main variants of influenza-B if I am not mistaken 100% SRS that's what makes this even more pissening it is and always has been the common cold SRS.

[Paul Kreul]

It's not a new disease corona virus is one of the three main variants of influenza-B if I am not mistaken 100% SRS that's what makes this even more pissening it is and always has been the common cold SRS.

This.
There are currently 36 known Coronavirus that have been present for 6 decades. It is an RNA virus, that means that each time someone gets sick & the virus goes through them, it morphs into a new subtype.
So they are either testing that an individual had CV 7 yrs ago (up to) & now a possible anti-body or are they specifically isolating CoV-2, which is impossible to do, based on length of time it has been present as we know there are 30 sub strains of the virus, for we know the WuHan Virus was different from the strand in Italy, then again different in Iran, then morphed again in New York, & CA, back in fukin April of last year.

Unfortunately dipchits like Weightholic, & BluesCuck still can’t figure this out

[dizzin9]

Fukc Bill Gates

That’s all.

[IPoopStandingUp]

I literally just got back from a cardiac arrest where a 38 year old guy was positive for covid, had just gotten out of the hospital 3 days ago, and he dropped dead in his living room.

was he a great big fat person or a regular person? just curious, not trying to insult the dead.

[BigDeeps01]

So you're trying to tell me that the overwhelming majority of the fat, old people that died from covid were already unhealthy and were probably going to die within the next few years from something else anyway?

I see, I see

[kingmanaverage]

-Near 100% survival rate for people who aren’t already at deaths door.

-only 5% of covid deaths are actually from covid

-resident retard compares it to cancer

Here’s an idea, why don’t you pussies fuk off and stay indoors if this chest cold bothers you so much and stop telling actual contributing members of society how to live. It’s your side that destroyed the country, it’s our side attempting to rebuild it.

Did you actually read the article in the op? The idea that only 5% of covid deaths are from covid is complete nonsense and just a clickbait thread title. Do you believe that everyone who dies from the flu is healthy with no comorbidities?

[kingmanaverage]

Actually what I did was ask how a disease that doesn't kill healthy people on its own qualifies as a pandemic, you've just got your head so far up your ass you can't read English anymore.

How many other pandemics were diseases that most people who contracted it didn't even know they were sick? I can't find one.

Massive advancements in medical technology and understanding of viruses+ a healthier overall population?

Isn't this like asking why the war in Iraq is considered such a big deal when only 4.5k people died, compared to the 650k who died in the American civil war?

[Dave22reborn]

Listen up losers. Lots of people die when there is a new disease. This is how evolution works. People say Europeans are evil for giving diseases to Indians and wiping them out. Do you know how many Europeans had to die to gain their immune systems? How many millions of European children died due to the same greed that drove Europeans to kill the native americans?

New diseases means people die. No amount of vaccines will make the covid susceptible less susceptible to covid. We just need to accept the losses (which are positive for humanity as a whole) and move on like every living being has since the beginning of the universe.

What we need to do is destroy the economy, lock everything down, force people to mask up, and then rush a miracle cure, and shame those who question it.

[Dave22reborn]

Massive advancements in medical technology and understanding of viruses+ a healthier overall population?

Isn't this like asking why the war in Iraq is considered such a big deal when only 4.5k people died, compared to the 650k who died in the American civil war?

You believe our population is healthier?

[Bushmaster]

The obvious response to this type of threat is to stay inside, reduce physical activity, watch fear porn, and gain weight. Only after this has been accomplished can we return to (new) normal.

This.. I think just around two weeks ought to do it.

[Bushmaster]

their logic is that

since COVID alone didn't kill people, COVID isn't dangerous

even though millions of Americans have underlying health issues that would complicate their COVID case

Fortunately, a majority of Americans can put two and two together

You're on the right track and almost there...

But a little more to the point is that we DGAF.

[Skwidward]

What we need to do is destroy the economy, lock everything down, force people to mask up, and then rush a miracle cure, and shame those who question it.

People should not be shamed for making a noise about being unable to buy food/pay bills because they can’t do business during a pandemic shutdown.

What the shot callers missed is that in other civilized countries the citizens were reimbursed during shutdowns. This country does things in more of a trample-the-weak/sick/poor-to-get-ahead kinda way, so shutdowns didn’t really work.

The amount of people in this thread who exposed themselves as incapable of understanding entry level college science is just embarrassing, and that’s ignoring Paul Kruel.

I mean, the dude you quoted made the statement “No amount of vaccines will make the covid susceptible less susceptible to covid.”

[Stizzel]

Massive advancements in medical technology and understanding of viruses+ a healthier overall population?

Isn't this like asking why the war in Iraq is considered such a big deal when only 4.5k people died, compared to the 650k who died in the American civil war?

When healthy people get covid most of the time they dont even know they're sick so im not sure what point you're trying to make. No one got the black plague and went about their life as normal.

The main complaint with iraq is that theres no fuking reason to be there so those soldiers are dying for no good reason

[Dave22reborn]

People should not be shamed for making a noise about being unable to buy food/pay bills because they can’t do business during a pandemic shutdown.

What the shot callers missed is that in other civilized countries the citizens were reimbursed during shutdowns. This country does things in more of a trample-the-weak/sick/poor-to-get-ahead kinda way, so shutdowns didn’t really work.

The amount of people in this thread who exposed themselves as incapable of understanding entry level college science is just embarrassing, and that’s ignoring Paul Kruel.

I mean, the dude you quoted made the statement “No amount of vaccines will make the covid susceptible less susceptible to covid.”

Shutdowns don't work period. But that doesn't mean the governments will continue to use them.

[Dave22reborn]

When healthy people get covid most of the time they dont even know they're sick so im not sure what point you're trying to make. No one got the black plague and went about their life as normal.

The main complaint with iraq is that theres no fuking reason to be there so those soldiers are dying for no good reason

Does he really believe our society is healthier, or is he bragging that we're prolonging those who would have died decades earlier.

For example, someone on "My 600lb life," would never be alive in say......the 1800s.