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    Insomnia after heavy lifting?

    Who else gets this? A fried CNS after heavy lifting. Tonight I did:

    - Farmer Walks
    - Sled Pushes
    - Box Jumps
    - Pullups
    - Curls
    - Rows

    Any time I do a heavy compound movement I will not be able to go to sleep. BRB taking melatonin and I feel nothing. Any remedies you guys found out that work for you?

    Pre workout I use.

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    Do you take a preworkout and lift in the evening?
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    always get it after lifting heavy after a longer break, goes away when i start lifing regularly once again. i just take it as a sign of good training
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    Originally Posted by LethalGunz34 View Post
    Do you take a preworkout and lift in the evening?
    lol my first thought
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    Originally Posted by LethalGunz34 View Post
    Do you take a preworkout and lift in the evening?
    I lift in the evening yes but my pre-workout doesn't have caffeine in it. Just a bunch of nootropics and ergogenics to get through the workout.

    I drink coffee/tea mid morning and early afternoon but no more than one cup of coffee and maybe a tea now. I try to limit my caffeine intake because I'm already a night owl. My girlfriend gets onto me about my sleep srs.

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    lol my first thought
    Caffeine free.

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    always get it after lifting heavy after a longer break, goes away when i start lifing regularly once again. i just take it as a sign of good training
    Ah word yeah it was a productive workout. I recall the first time I did tire flips every I couldn't go to sleep lol. That was 10-11 years ago.
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    Same problem here i got Grappling/Kickboxing classes from 7pm to 9pm and can't sleep till 2 am after that lol
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    It’s the lifting in the evening/preworkout, m8 - caffeine or not. Your body and mind just wake up.
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    Originally Posted by LethalGunz34 View Post
    It’s the lifting in the evening/preworkout, m8 - caffeine or not. Your body and mind just wake up.
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    Probably sending your cortisol levels through the roof which is causing you to find it difficult to sleep. Work out in the morning like a normal person.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    This.


    Probably sending your cortisol levels through the roof which is causing you to find it difficult to sleep. Work out in the morning like a normal person.
    Can confirm, cortisol fuks up your sleep
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    Yep do judo pretty late (7:30 till 9:00) and it always screws my sleep. Started taking ****** afterwards. That stuff will put your lights out
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    Always have done my workouts after work and pre dinner.
    I figured it gave me time to warm up gently throughout the day so that joints and tendons/ligaments etc are ready.

    So how long would it take cortisol to start affecting me post workout?
    I finish lifting around 6 - 6:30pm and sleep at 10 - 10:30pm

    I can usually fall asleep OK but noticed that sometimes it takes hours. Could it be worth changing my routine to morning lifting?
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    Originally Posted by DargeLick View Post
    Always have done my workouts after work and pre dinner.
    I figured it gave me time to warm up gently throughout the day so that joints and tendons/ligaments etc are ready.

    So how long would it take cortisol to start affecting me post workout?
    I finish lifting around 6 - 6:30pm and sleep at 10 - 10:30pm

    I can usually fall asleep OK but noticed that sometimes it takes hours. Could it be worth changing my routine to morning lifting?
    The intensity of the exercise impacts how long the levels are elevated, and I’d imagine it’s different from person to person. Generally morning exercise will increase it for a while but by the evening it will be below baseline, which is why exercise can help improve sleep quality. Obviously going hard too close to bedtime will make it worse though.





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    Asian rub and tug followed by a huge carb heavy meal
    Actually carbs can help blunt the cortisol response.




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    Originally Posted by LethalGunz34 View Post
    It’s the lifting in the evening/preworkout, m8 - caffeine or not. Your body and mind just wake up.
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    Probably sending your cortisol levels through the roof which is causing you to find it difficult to sleep. Work out in the morning like a normal person.
    These. Just a by product of training late. I used to train around 5-6pm and I couldn't even think about sleeping until midnight or 1AM. Since I switched to 5AM training I can barely stay awake past 9pm.
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    Stop drinking caffeine and pre work outs. Caffeine stays in your system for 14 hours approx.
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    Because your cortisol levels will be sky high thats what is affecting your sleep. Look into taking a phosphatidylserine supplement postworkout.
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    - drinks a bunch of preworkout in the evening

    - why can't i sleep guise


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    i had the same issue for months and got so ****ing mad when i'd lay there exhausted and couldn't fall asleep. I started working from home and started going to the gym from 1230-145 or so and it cured me completely.
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    Originally Posted by sword_ View Post
    Any time I do a heavy compound movement I will not be able to go to sleep. BRB taking melatonin and I feel nothing. Any remedies you guys found out that work for you?
    I only notice this when I slack on the heavy CNS hitting stuff and try it again during the PM.

    Always have a restless chit night, sometimes no appetite as well.

    (Obv no preworkout or coffee BS in the PM, why do people do this?)
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    - drinks a bunch of preworkout in the evening

    - why can't i sleep guise


    Lol @ preworkoutcels
    I think OP mentioned it was a non caffeinated pre workout. Unless those few ingredients he mentioned are still stimulants.
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    Originally Posted by Voidgaze View Post
    I think OP mentioned it was a non caffeinated pre workout. Unless those few ingredients he mentioned are still stimulants.
    Even if they aren’t stimulants it’s probably likely that any type of nootropic or other ingredient that alters brain activity will interfere with the body’s natural process of transitioning to sleep.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Even if they aren’t stimulants it’s probably likely that any type of nootropic or other ingredient that alters brain activity will interfere with the body’s natural process of transitioning to sleep.
    Very true, that might explain it.
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