Program for size + strength/power/speed?

[DogletDusk]

My goals are primarily size/aesthetic based but I also care about athletic performance for combat sports (strength, speed, power). Is there a program that primarily focuses on size with some good attention to athletic performance for combat sports?

The only program that comes to mind is the 4 day U/L Westside Conjugate system. Would this be the best program for my goals?

Thanks

[ECGordyn]

My goals are primarily size/aesthetic based but I also care about athletic performance for combat sports (strength, speed, power). Is there a program that primarily focuses on size with some good attention to athletic performance for combat sports?

The only program that comes to mind is the 4 day U/L Westside Conjugate system. Would this be the best program for my goals?

Thanks

Candito linear Strength/Control or Strength/Power

You might also look into training with clubs and maces, as they allow you to strengthen dynamic movements that mimic combat sports. Mark Wildman is one to look up.

[BeginnerGainz]

Paul Carter has a good one, I’ll see if I can dig it up.

Understand that carrying excess bulk won’t help you in a fight, and strength at lifting probably won’t do jack chit anyway.

That power lifter that got murdered in a fist fight by a fighter half his size is more than proof of that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...kle-brawl.html

The program in question:
http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2010/09...r-mma.html?m=1

Candito linear Strength/Control or Strength/Power

You might also look into training with clubs and maces, as they allow you to strengthen dynamic movements that mimic combat sports. Mark Wildman is one to look up.

These are good suggestions as well.

[DogletDusk]

Candito linear Strength/Control or Strength/Power

You might also look into training with clubs and maces, as they allow you to strengthen dynamic movements that mimic combat sports. Mark Wildman is one to look up.

Thank you so much, I’ll check those out!

Paul Carter has a good one, I’ll see if I can dig it up.

Understand that carrying excess bulk won’t help you in a fight, and strength at lifting probably won’t do jack chit anyway.

That power lifter that got murdered in a fist fight by a fighter half his size is more than proof of that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...kle-brawl.html

The program in question:
http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2010/09...r-mma.html?m=1



These are good suggestions as well.

Thanks for the suggestion bro, I appreciate it!

And I get what you’re saying. My goals are primarily aesthetics based, so the size isn’t for performance exactly. However, I respectfully disagree that size doesn’t matter in a fight, otherwise weight classes wouldn’t exist. If the powerlifter knew how to fight, he should whoop the dude half his size. Skill always takes precedence, but size is usually the defining factor when skill is matched.

I agree with you that strength in lifting doesn’t carry over well due to specificity. That’s why I was intrigued by westside conjugate. It’s low specificity training in that you’re rotating lifts often, so you’re doing max effort + speed work at a wide range of joint angles, which would carry over better to athletic endeavors more than traditional lifting where you stick with the same basic lifts. A good amount of UFC fighters/NFL players are on this system actually.

Thanks for contributing!

[BeginnerGainz]

Thank you so much, I’ll check those out!



Thanks for the suggestion bro, I appreciate it!

And I get what you’re saying. My goals are primarily aesthetics based, so the size isn’t for performance exactly. However, I respectfully disagree that size doesn’t matter in a fight, otherwise weight classes wouldn’t exist. If the powerlifter knew how to fight, he should whoop the dude half his size. Skill always takes precedence, but size is usually the defining factor when skill is matched.

I agree with you that strength in lifting doesn’t carry over well due to specificity. That’s why I was intrigued by westside conjugate. It’s low specificity training in that you’re rotating lifts often, so you’re doing max effort + speed work at a wide range of joint angles, which would carry over better to athletic endeavors more than traditional lifting where you stick with the same basic lifts. A good amount of UFC fighters/NFL players are on this system actually.

Thanks for contributing!

You certainly are on the right track my friend.

Conjugate is fun, but very very overwhelming and hard to keep track of. If you go that route, get ready to record EVERYTHING.

[DogletDusk]

You certainly are on the right track my friend.

Conjugate is fun, but very very overwhelming and hard to keep track of. If you go that route, get ready to record EVERYTHING.

Thanks so much for your help!

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