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    Canceled spotify and got Amazon prime music hd

    Amazon prime music is much better because pretty much all of the tracks are HD or uktra HD cd quality no joke and it has lyrics that display while the song is playing

    I used to think spotify was the best but it's not worth it for 320 kb tracks
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    People pay for music still?
      
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    I don’t really stream but I do have Amazon music and most of the music I like is on there


    Some tracks you just can’t find on streaming platforms that’s why I have them saved on my iTunes
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    People pay for music still?
    yeah I actually buy tracks off Amazon and beatport then download to iTunes and sync my iPhone and then save them in a folder/usb (100% dead srs)
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    I had Google radio since it launched, it's YouTube music now. All, the music you could ever want plus add free YouTube and you can play YouTube with the screen off for podcasts and such.
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    If you have amazon prime you have amazon music too right? Or is it separate now?
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    I had Google radio since it launched, it's YouTube music now. All, the music you could ever want plus add free YouTube and you can play YouTube with the screen off for podcasts and such.
    You can do all of this for free with a simple download of Youtube Vanced.

    Fuking lmao if Youtube thinks I'm paying to be able to turn my own phone screen off. Fuking lmao if they think I'm paying to get rid of their absolutely bonkers ad's. It's been so long since I've seen ad's on youtube that I didn't realize how bad it's gotten. Was at a friends and they had youtube on their FireTV and holy ****. Two ads between videos? Some ad started playing that was 14 minutes long, are you fuking srs? Sure you can skip it after 5 seconds... but 14 fuking minutes?!?!?
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    Originally Posted by Tanerian View Post
    You can do all of this for free with a simple download of Youtube Vanced.

    Fuking lmao if Youtube thinks I'm paying to be able to turn my own phone screen off. Fuking lmao if they think I'm paying to get rid of their absolutely bonkers ad's. It's been so long since I've seen ad's on youtube that I didn't realize how bad it's gotten. Was at a friends and they had youtube on their FireTV and holy ****. Two ads between videos? Some ad started playing that was 14 minutes long, are you fuking srs? Sure you can skip it after 5 seconds... but 14 fuking minutes?!?!?
    There are youtube videos that are literally /an ad/ it is hilarious. Clown world. Honk Honk.
      
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    Originally Posted by tk217 View Post
    There are youtube videos that are literally /an ad/ it is hilarious. Clown world. Honk Honk.
    I haven't seen it myself, but my friend said sometimes a hour+ Long "movie" will play as an "ad" if he leaves youtube playing long enough.
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    Originally Posted by tk217 View Post
    People pay for music still?
    Yes i listen to music almost all day and take a lot of road trips so it's good to have quality music in my car. I also have a 5k system in my car. I would pay $100 for music streaming if i had to. You can download all the files you want to also. I just bought a 512 gb SD card for my phone to store all of the music srs
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    Yes i listen to music almost all day and take a lot of road trips so it's good to have quality music in my car. I also have a 5k system in my car. I would pay $100 for music streaming if i had to. You can download all the files you want to also. I just bought a 512 gb SD card for my phone to store all of the music srs
    Or.. you can go to piratebay or one of a million other similar sites and download an Artist's entire discography at maximum quality in about 3 minutes...

    Or literally just download play lists that people have made and put online. "All the best hits of the 90's.. or All the best Rock from 2000-2010"

    But you keep spending that cash.
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    Originally Posted by Tanerian View Post
    You can do all of this for free with a simple download of Youtube Vanced.

    Fuking lmao if Youtube thinks I'm paying to be able to turn my own phone screen off. Fuking lmao if they think I'm paying to get rid of their absolutely bonkers ad's. It's been so long since I've seen ad's on youtube that I didn't realize how bad it's gotten. Was at a friends and they had youtube on their FireTV and holy ****. Two ads between videos? Some ad started playing that was 14 minutes long, are you fuking srs? Sure you can skip it after 5 seconds... but 14 fuking minutes?!?!?
    Yeah I know there's ways around it but I don't have cable and I basically live on YouTube so it's worth it for me. I used to do it with cracked apks and stuff but sometimes I'd get to work and have to spend time trying to update or fix it and it just got too annoying. I have the family plan, split with gf, and we both have 2 friends on it also. It's also extra worth it because my two friends I have on my family plan give me HBO max and Spotify as a trade.
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    Originally Posted by Tanerian View Post
    Or.. you can go to piratebay or one of a million other similar sites and download an Artist's entire discography at maximum quality in about 3 minutes...

    Or literally just download play lists that people have made and put online. "All the best hits of the 90's.. or All the best Rock from 2000-2010"

    But you keep spending that cash.
    This is so outdated tho. I literally can't remember the last time I downloaded music. I couldn't imagine in 2021 trying to torrent music going thru all that anytime I want to hear new music. I pay a couple bucks a month and listen to literally anything at any time. Sure you save money, but there's absolutely nothing convinient about what you do,and you're limited to whatever you have on your device.
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    This is so outdated tho. I literally can't remember the last time I downloaded music. I couldn't imagine in 2021 trying to torrent music going thru all that anytime I want to hear new music. I pay a couple bucks a month and listen to literally anything at any time. Sure you save money, but there's absolutely nothing convinient about what you do,and you're limited to whatever you have on your device.
    True - reality is most music is bad these days and I don't even listen to the radio.
      
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    Yeh dude, so I've taken your advice and used my '3 months free' subscription - my next question is, how do I take advantage of the high(er) quality audio output?
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    I've had both you fkn *******, plus its free with Prime, peasant, how do you not have prime at this point?

    Prime video doesnt know related songs, either.

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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    Yeh dude, so I've taken your advice and used my '3 months free' subscription - my next question is, how do I take advantage of the high(er) quality audio output?
    I guess it really depends on hertz. 20 is as low as you can go and 20,000 is as high as you can go and 2000 to 5000 is the range humans can generally grasp.

    db isn't quality of music so people who try to blow out their eardrums are retarded. Subs matter very little in this equation hence most systems are 5.1 4.1 2.1 etc - 1 sub is enough.

    Of course as you age - the "higher pitch" side of hearing goes away meaning you really start to lose the ability to hear that 20 khz. So, your system should focus toward the low. Typically bass accounts for frequencies between 20 and 300 Hz , mid is 300 Hz to 4 kHz, and treble counts as anything above 4 kHz. I'm not usually focused on "singers."

    So, let's talk about frequency response as having a wide range doesn't matter too much.

    frequency response is the way music interacts with each other through a system. If a system has 34 hertz to 20,000 hertz +/- 3Db listed as a spec it translates to if a sound is happening between 34 hertz to 20KHz is /accurate/ but what does that mean? Well, first - you want this line to be as flat as possible. This is the concept of 'sound timbre'.

    The Db range only matters as a level of error in these cases. You should not be listening to music at extremely loud levels.

    Often times music is done with a 'flat' microphone but there are other microphones called 'shaped' and these are to pinpoint specific types of instruments or vocalists. Shaped microphones amplify desired sounds and reduce unwanted 'pick up' ******ce or instruments. Shaped microphones are common for concerts for singers.

    Materials matter. When you watch a speaker it 'bounces' and the flexing of the cone does matter. The more distorted cone the more distorted sound. So you want 'strong' materials.

    Clay impregnated cones are very rigid where as polypropylene are less rigid but create resonance.

    Where you put your speaker matters. Reverberation is a real thing and if you trap sound between echo chambers it dilutes the quality.

    High pitch frequencies needed be modded by a 'tweeter' where as low level frequencies modded by a 'woofer.'

    This is called the cross over circuit and it matters. A good speaker design uses a combination of drivers and crossovers to let each driver focus on those frequencies it can produce accurately.

    The last part of this equation is /you/ meaning you setting up how you enjoy hearing the sound. Do you want your chorus on the left or the right or in the middle? All around you?

    Understanding frequency is probably the hardest part of being into music theory and conceptualization them in reality in a home system as it is a lot of calculus when you get into the math side of it.
      
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    320 kbps is CD quality




    Do you actually think your chitty 10w TV speakers or chitty "gaming" headset can even perceive the audio difference anyway


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    Peaked my interest OP but then I saw that for HD music you need an amazon prime membership AND then pay an extra $15 on top of that. Considering Amazon Video & Delivery sucks in the country I reside in Spotify @ $10 beats it.

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    Do you actually think your chitty 10w TV speakers or chitty "gaming" headset can even perceive the audio difference anyway


    Just lol
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    tidal is pretty good and listening to tracks can take you down a rabbit hole of music you forgot about. they even include all the producers/composers as links you can click like an artist and see what other tracks they've done. big big rabbit hole of music. spotify is like the apple version of streaming music, they tell you how you will stream music and theres pretty much cookie cut, and thats fine for most people.

    ton of those "audiophiles" use tidal, some do use amazon music, but no one uses spotify
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    Originally Posted by blissful88 View Post
    320 kbps is CD quality




    Do you actually think your chitty 10w TV speakers or chitty "gaming" headset can even perceive the audio difference anyway


    Just lol

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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    My car system is like 5k dollars
    i miss my car's sound system. something happened with either my wiring or my amplifier. (i already replaced the fuse and doesn't work still). ampilifer powers on with car, but subs are connected but no sound. I think my amp is turning on but dead. doesn't even matter if you got nice speakers in the doors either, without those subwoofers, music sounds like crap.
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    Originally Posted by rocketfish View Post
    i miss my car's sound system. something happened with either my wiring or my amplifier. (i already replaced the fuse and doesn't work still). ampilifer powers on with car, but subs are connected but no sound. I think my amp is turning on but dead. doesn't even matter if you got nice speakers in the doors either, without those subwoofers, music sounds like crap.
    Imo front speakers are most important, then a good head unit that has a band equalizer and time alignment and at least something in the back for a sub

    Time alignment and the 13 band EQ will make your system sound godly srs
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    Skeptical hippo, Spotify is pretty dope for me

    Plus it works with Waze, not sure if Amazon Prime Music does that though
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    prime music free
    pandora free
    local radio station skills.

    listen to them on my echo dot and a BT speaker while outside on the deck or pool.

    don't need no "HD quality" for that.

    in the house i just use my phone and BT speaker.
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    My car system is like 5k dollars
    That cost doesn't mean anything


    If you don't have an audiophile level set of cans + tuned Amplifier plugged in then you can't even hear the difference between audio bit-rates

    Zero chance you're hearing it in a rattling car
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    Originally Posted by blissful88 View Post
    That cost doesn't mean anything


    If you don't have an audiophile level set of cans + tuned Amplifier plugged in then you can't even hear the difference between audio bit-rates

    Zero chance you're hearing it in a rattling car
    Get some Morels and you will hear the difference

    https://www.morelhifi.com/product/tempo-ultra-2-way/

    320kbps to 850 kbps is like going from 1080p to 4k srs

    128 kbps radio quality 320 kbps mp3 quality sound horrible on real systems
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    This is so outdated tho. I literally can't remember the last time I downloaded music. I couldn't imagine in 2021 trying to torrent music going thru all that anytime I want to hear new music. I pay a couple bucks a month and listen to literally anything at any time. Sure you save money, but there's absolutely nothing convinient about what you do,and you're limited to whatever you have on your device.
    To me, it's not about the audio quality or the ease of just playing the music, it's the way that spotify intelligently can continue playing music at the end of a playlist that sounds like it belongs in the playlist that just finished. the recommended artists, daily playlists and stuff, it's all just AMAZINGLY well curated.

    I have apple music also and it doesn't even come close.

    Also for OP, Spotify has hifi coming so it'll be interesting to hear what the difference between it and the typical 320khz I usually stream at.
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