Have the skilled trades become overrated as career options?

[RealAesthetic]

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[zhengterry]

Electrical is actually back in higher demand nowadays.

Aced my first year entrance exam

Got my foot in the door with a temp job lmao, just basically loading and unloading material with the odd construction

Then secured a great job with an utility company doing power lines

Still haven't gotten my blue book (indentured) after 2 years, so that gives you an idea on how competitive it is but right now I'm in an union and first year apprentice starts at a third year wage at this company (billions of revenue)

[shreddedloser]

Would rather be a 9-5 work from home deskcel for 90k p.a

[zhengterry]

Also my dad is a heavy equipment mechanic, and one time showed me his earnings which was 80k if I remember correctly.

Now does his own plumbing on the side too, self taught can pull 300 for 3 or 4 hours of work.

[ralphlaurenbrah]

Lmao trades don't make ****.


Don't believe me?


https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes473019.htm


Here's the fuking government data. You really claim you make as much as me with my masters degree practicing anesthesia? Fuking LOL. Yeah right, maybe in san francisco where $120k is LITERALLY the poverty line.

[vwdsg2468]

Lmao trades don't make ****.


Don't believe me?


https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes473019.htm


Here's the fuking government data. You really claim you make as much as me with my masters degree practicing anesthesia? Fuking LOL. Yeah right, maybe in san francisco where $120k is LITERALLY the poverty line.

Agreed. Need pay stubs as proof.

[guest89]

Lmao trades don't make ****.


Don't believe me?


https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes473019.htm


Here's the fuking government data. You really claim you make as much as me with my masters degree practicing anesthesia? Fuking LOL. Yeah right, maybe in san francisco where $120k is LITERALLY the poverty line.

Obviously you can't compare being an anesthesiologist, surgeon, doctor, etc. with Pablo, who is a painters helper. But in general the average skilled tradesman is probably a lot better off then the average college graduate/desk jockey.


As far as income by far and large the highest earners in the world are people that are self employed/own their own business. Assuming someone goes the trades route from 18-30ish. Then branches off and starts their own company/ contracting service. The sky is the limit.



I'm 34. All of my childhood friends that became tradesmen are now self employed and/or are working as a supervisor/foreman making six figures. They never went into debt for an education. They were earning 40K+ at 18-19 years old and only scaled up from there.


Also want to say the bro's that went the tradie route bought homes by 25 and were driving 40-60K trucks by that time also. Massive head-start on the friends that went to college for engineering, nursing, law, etc.

[propreffered7]

Lmao trades don't make ****.


Don't believe me?


https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes473019.htm


Here's the fuking government data. You really claim you make as much as me with my masters degree practicing anesthesia? Fuking LOL. Yeah right, maybe in san francisco where $120k is LITERALLY the poverty line.

This guy is pretty much it

Obviously you can't compare being an anesthesiologist, surgeon, doctor, etc. with Pablo, who is a painters helper. But in general the average skilled tradesman is probably a lot better off then the average college graduate/desk jockey.


As far as income by far and large the highest earners in the world are people that are self employed/own their own business. Assuming someone goes the trades route from 18-30ish. Then branches off and starts their own company/ contracting service. The sky is the limit.



I'm 34. All of my childhood friends that became tradesmen are now self employed and/or are working as a supervisor/foreman making six figures. They never went into debt for an education. They were earning 40K+ at 18-19 years old and only scaled up from there.


Also want to say the bro's that went the tradie route bought homes by 25 and were driving 40-60K trucks by that time also. Massive head-start on the friends that went to college for engineering, nursing, law, etc.

But lets use the guy i used from my trade school. Tropicana started out at 32/ hr. They literally came to our school. Have the paperwork if i can find it

Level 5 is 32 per hour, hes at level 6 and 12 is 52 per hour. At the hours hes stating hes working (64)

Thats 200k

Unsure what steps are beyond that, if any

I dont doubt there are jobs out there in electrical that pay beyond that. Hard to imagine this is the highest paying electrical job considering the city. But by and large making those figures is prob owning your own business

[propreffered7]

here's the tropicana paperwork btw. they came to the school with the open positions. and the guy i was talking about did this his first year. keep in mind that journeyman's license is 8,000 hours in the field, 1200 hours in school and passing a license exam; so when you're referencing "your masters" or college education, a journeyman's license is pretty comparable education wise to a 4 year degree. maybe not a masters but def. a bachelors



that guy is making 145k out of school as an apprentice

edit: also, keep in mind this is florida and not cali or nyc

[cavillac]

The only people that would say the skilled trades are overrated are tradesmen that don't have the skill to demand top wage on the job.

[lawlessly]

Trades are a real mans job you can't do these jobs when you're 18-22 you'll get hurt

[vwdsg2468]

Obviously you can't compare being an anesthesiologist, surgeon, doctor, etc. with Pablo, who is a painters helper. But in general the average skilled tradesman is probably a lot better off then the average college graduate/desk jockey.


As far as income by far and large the highest earners in the world are people that are self employed/own their own business. Assuming someone goes the trades route from 18-30ish. Then branches off and starts their own company/ contracting service. The sky is the limit.



I'm 34. All of my childhood friends that became tradesmen are now self employed and/or are working as a supervisor/foreman making six figures. They never went into debt for an education. They were earning 40K+ at 18-19 years old and only scaled up from there.


Also want to say the bro's that went the tradie route bought homes by 25 and were driving 40-60K trucks by that time also. Massive head-start on the friends that went to college for engineering, nursing, law, etc.

Interesting

[vwdsg2468]

What trade takes the shortest time to learn (like a community college program) and has good opportunities to run your own business?

[puristhndrwrth]

What trade takes the shortest time to learn (like a community college program) and has good opportunities to run your own business?

roofing,in and out probably 100-150 builds or 1 year in 6 man crew.
On your own you can be subcontractor like me(100-200k) or straight up sell hailstorm jobs and dont work at all and hire hispanics to do your jobs.Im complacent with what i make but could definitely double-triple my income if i started hustle my own jobs but i have gme and when it moass i will retire so no fuccing work anymore

[vwdsg2468]

roofing,in and out probably 100-150 builds or 1 year in 6 man crew.
On your own you can be subcontractor like me(100-200k) or straight up sell hailstorm jobs and dont work at all and hire hispanics to do your jobs.Im complacent with what i make but could definitely double-triple my income if i started hustle my own jobs but i have gme and when it moass i will retire so no fuccing work anymore

Interesting.

[vwdsg2468]

Hvac?

[stupid000]

Hvac?

Don't make a lot starting out. Eventually do okay. Don't know what their unions are like. You can learn the trade rather quickly though and start your own business and make good money.

[vwdsg2468]

Don't make a lot starting out. Eventually do okay. Don't know what their unions are like. You can learn the trade rather quickly though and start your own business and make good money.

Business ownership would be my goal.

[stupid000]

Business ownership would be my goal.

It's possible in only like 5 years, srs. You'll probably have to make low bids though to get started.

[vwdsg2468]

roofing,in and out probably 100-150 builds or 1 year in 6 man crew.
On your own you can be subcontractor like me(100-200k) or straight up sell hailstorm jobs and dont work at all and hire hispanics to do your jobs.Im complacent with what i make but could definitely double-triple my income if i started hustle my own jobs but i have gme and when it moass i will retire so no fuccing work anymore

Sounds like a brutal job in the summer.

[eternalnoob]

Just do whatever you want. Why do you care what someone else does? It doesn't affect you at all.

I'm self-employed and I like what I do. If you like working behind a desk, that's fine. Doesn't affect me at all.

[78novacaine]

Lmao trades don't make ****.


Don't believe me?


https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes473019.htm


Here's the fuking government data. You really claim you make as much as me with my masters degree practicing anesthesia? Fuking LOL. Yeah right, maybe in san francisco where $120k is LITERALLY the poverty line.

That's for HELPERS you dumb Kent.

Hvac?

Solid trade. Won't ever go without work if you live in a high demand area and don't suck. Residential sucks bawls spending a bunch of time in attics but industrial/commercial work are far better.

I'm a pipefitter technically but currently work out of a facilities maintenance shop taking care of all onsite HVAC systems. We have guys that handle most of the DX (freon based) systems, and then I work with the chillwater/steam/hot water piping systems that run the larger buildings.

[vwdsg2468]

Bump

[vwdsg2468]

That's for HELPERS you dumb Kent.



Solid trade. Won't ever go without work if you live in a high demand area and don't suck. Residential sucks bawls spending a bunch of time in attics but industrial/commercial work are far better.

I'm a pipefitter technically but currently work out of a facilities maintenance shop taking care of all onsite HVAC systems. We have guys that handle most of the DX (freon based) systems, and then I work with the chillwater/steam/hot water piping systems that run the larger buildings.

Thanks for the response

[GeezersPalace]

Being a desk s has wowed me
To travel the world and have a life
Likely better than most plebs on this forum.


Live worked in Europe Asia America etc. I have a job where I can almost work anywhere and live well. Point is I would probably have the same money being an electrician in australia which I nearly did do but I wouldn’t have the life I had.

Being a tradie living in a nice house in a city like Tampa getting married to some local bird is a massive cope. Life can be much better

[vwdsg2468]

Being a desk s has wowed me
To travel the world and have a life
Likely better than most plebs on this forum.


Live worked in Europe Asia America etc. I have a job where I can almost work anywhere and live well. Point is I would probably have the same money being an electrician in australia which I nearly did do but I wouldn’t have the life I had.

Being a tradie living in a nice house in a city like Tampa getting married to some local bird is a massive cope. Life can be much better

Software developer?

[MikeLowrrrey]

Lmao trades don't make ****.


Don't believe me?


https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes473019.htm


Here's the fuking government data. You really claim you make as much as me with my masters degree practicing anesthesia? Fuking LOL. Yeah right, maybe in san francisco where $120k is LITERALLY the poverty line.

Your link is terrible bud. From the title of it, it reads as it encompasses a bunch of random laborers doing the jobs. "Helpers, Construction Trades, All Other: Top". And you really think these folks are getting paid $16/hr to work on state of the art hospitals, colleges, and government buildings. Think about what you're saying here.

These are the proper links to the different trades

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/construction...ians.htm#tab-5

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/construction...ters.htm#tab-5

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/construction...ters.htm#tab-5

[vwdsg2468]

Left a career that paid well. I got burned out. Decided to join a trade. Matched up with a jack of all trades. This dude is about 40 who did this work since he was a young kid with his dad. His work is top notch and level of detail to the extreme. I could have learned a lot from this guy and maybe be in the same position as a lot of guys in this thread claiming to be successful.

However, he was arrogant. All he did was yell. Talk bad about his wife. Boast about drugs. Had terrible communication skills. And so did all his friends. Sure these jobs may pay good, but screw the people working them. I wouldn’t want to surround myself with tradies for any amount of money. They boast that they’re real men who work hard, but they’re just insecure dudes with no moral compass. No thanks Jeff.

That's an interesting perspective.

[propreffered7]

I wouldn’t want to surround myself with tradies for any amount of money. They boast that they’re real men who work hard, but they’re just insecure dudes with no moral compass. No thanks Jeff.

yea, i haven't liked a lot of tradies. i would say that some of the stereotypes are true, but i just don't think it's inherent with the subject material

like i'd prob agree MOST electricians are dumbasses (then there are good ones) but electricity in and of itself is no easy subject. so, a skilled person could take that lots of places

just like there's people who got college degrees with all c's barely passing

in general most people are probably lazy workers

[YUL]

I wouldn’t want to surround myself with tradies for any amount of money. They boast that they’re real men who work hard, but they’re just insecure dudes with no moral compass. No thanks Jeff.

I guess you mean lie EQ right ?