Have the skilled trades become overrated as career options?

[vwdsg2468]

It seems like all of the misc loves to romanticize the skilled trades. Why? Getting a good degree is a lot better. Yet all I hear is 100k a year this and that for skilled tradesmen. Looking up average salaries proves otherwise.

I'm not saying skilled trades aren't, needed or important.
Discuss.

[4free]

I don't know where you're hearing that from. Generally, we suggest ceo 10k/day.

[bchap05]

Have degree am deskcel. Would much rather be tradie and wish I took that route instead

[vwdsg2468]

Have degree am deskcel. Would much rather be tradie and wish I took that route instead

Why?

[Devin459]

Yet all I hear is 100k a year this and that for skilled tradesmen. Looking up average salaries proves otherwise.

Discuss.

Last year was BY FAR the slowest year I've had since 2012. I made 96k.

2019 I made over 180k.

Ya it really sucks bro let me tell ya

If I went to school to be a deskcell I would have gone into tremendous debt in order to make that much money, with still no guarantee.

I originally wanted to get into finance, but a good family friend got me into the trades, so that I could hopefully cash flow school. I said fuk school after seeing the first paycheck.

Now at 30 years old, while my friends are still paying off student loan debt and making 75k a year.. I'm sitting here looking into starting my own business in a serious fashion. It's a real possibility now. Only thing holding me back at the moment is fear.

[vwdsg2468]

Last year was BY FAR the slowest year I've had since 2012. I made 96k.

2019 I made over 180k.

Ya it really sucks bro let me tell ya

If I went to school do be a deskcell I would have gone into tremendous debt in order to make that much money, with still no guarantee.

I originally wanted to get into finance, but a good family friend got me into the trades so I could cash flow school and said fuk school after seeing the first paycheck.

Are you in a thug Union or are you a business owner?

[navid93]

Only real negative is the wear and tear on your body

In my area the STARTING pay for a union electrician is $48 an hour. x40 a week that’s just a few hundred dollars under 6 figures.

Also because you’re hourly you get paid for your overtime. Most engineering and computer brahs don’t get paid anymore for staying late

[vwdsg2468]

Only real negative is the wear and tear on your body

In my area the STARTING pay for a union electrician is $48 an hour. x40 a week that’s just a few hundred dollars under 6 figures.

Also because you’re hourly you get paid for your overtime. Most engineering and computer brahs don’t get paid anymore for staying late

True. Unions protect workers from the real world. It's like saying everyone should get a well paying government job. Most trades earn less than half that.

[stupid000]

I like making over 100k a year. Sometimes a lot of hours though. I also hate school though, glad I didn't have to go to college. Chicks dig guys who are good with their hands. Operate equipment so don't even break my back doing manual labor. Get to be outside all day. Just left the union making 52 an hour because I was ready to move to a new state. Also, trades are in demand now because so many people are choosing office work over trades.

[Mang1er]

True. Unions protect workers from the real world. It's like saying everyone should get a well paying government job. Most trades earn less than half that.

What trade earns half that?

[vwdsg2468]

What trade earns half that?

Every tradesmen that's not in a union.

[Tornach]

Tell that to the tradesmen making 300k plus in California.

No debt
No Officels
No filters during conversations

[ChrisLS8]

It seems like all of the misc loves to romanticize the skilled trades. Why? Getting a good degree is a lot better. Yet all I hear is 100k a year this and that for skilled tradesmen. Looking up average salaries proves otherwise.

I'm not saying skilled trades aren't, needed or important.
Discuss.

Depends where you go,

Union Vs non
Residential vs industrial/commercial
Area you work.

160k a year is fairly common around here for Union work unless you're a scaffold cuck, taper cuck, painter pleb etc. Quite a few are 220k plus.

Paid schooling.
No debt
Can out credits towards a degree in a supervisory/management role.
Guaranteed raises
Pension
Paid benefits

[stupid000]

Tell that to the tradesmen making 300k plus in California.

No debt
No Officels
No filters during conversations

Plus hot office girls who know you make bank and hit on you

[stupid000]

Depends where you go,

Union Vs non
Residential vs industrial/commercial
Area you work.

160k a year is fairly common around here for Union work unless you're a scaffold cuck, taper cuck, painter pleb etc. Quite a few are 220k plus.

Paid schooling.
No debt
Can out credits towards a degree in a supervisory/management role.
Guaranteed raises
Pension
Paid benefits

Love my pension, my 401ks. Not a bad life.

[ChrisLS8]

Why?

I GUARANTEE you for the tradies that do good work there is much higher job satisfaction. Every single time I get to build something crazy I step back when it's finished, marvel at my own craftsmanship and take a ton of pictures.

Then I can know that my work will be put to use for someone else to provide for their family for decades. Every day I drive by beautiful buildings I had a part in creating

I have a lot of officel buddies and none of em want to tell me about their day of writing some obscure line of script in some function of a program or app that no one cares about.

[navid93]

I GUARANTEE you for the tradies that do good work there is much higher job satisfaction. Every single time I get to build something crazy I step back when it's finished, marvel at my own craftsmanship and take a ton of pictures.

Then I can know that my work will be put to use for someone else to provide for their family for decades. Every day I drive by beautiful buildings I had a part in creating

I have a lot of officel buddies and none of em want to tell me about their day of writing some obscure line of script in some function of a program or app that no one cares about.

You a sparkie?

[stupid000]

I GUARANTEE you for the tradies that do good work there is much higher job satisfaction. Every single time I get to build something crazy I step back when it's finished, marvel at my own craftsmanship and take a ton of pictures.

Then I can know that my work will be put to use for someone else to provide for their family for decades. Every day I drive by beautiful buildings I had a part in creating

I have a lot of officel buddies and none of em want to tell me about their day of writing some obscure line of script in some function of a program or app that no one cares about.

Mirin.
If I'm in a city I built something I'll drive by and check it out to see how it's looking. Doesn't happen often cause I'm a vagabond but it's cool when it happens.

Can you post any pictures bro? I would but I can only post youtube videos for some reason.

[sf813]

Last year was BY FAR the slowest year I've had since 2012. I made 96k.

2019 I made over 180k.

Ya it really sucks bro let me tell ya

If I went to school to be a deskcell I would have gone into tremendous debt in order to make that much money, with still no guarantee.

I originally wanted to get into finance, but a good family friend got me into the trades, so that I could hopefully cash flow school. I said fuk school after seeing the first paycheck.

Now at 30 years old, while my friends are still paying off student loan debt and making 75k a year.. I'm sitting here looking into starting my own business in a serious fashion. It's a real possibility now. Only thing holding me back at the moment is fear.

Your friends must be below average

75K is near the entry level base salary straight out of college at this point. For many people working as a desk wagecuck, they should easily get over $75k by age 30.

I'm a desk wagecuck myself and recently interviewed for a job that pays $180K salary + $80K annual bonus and I made a lot of mistakes in my career/education.

[H00J]

Just deliver for Amazon u little bitch

[navid93]

Your friends must be below average

75K is near the entry level base salary straight out of college at this point. For many people working as a desk wagecuck, they should easily get over $75k by age 30.

I'm a desk wagecuck myself and recently interviewed for a job that pays $180K salary + $80K annual bonus and I made a lot of mistakes in my career/education.

Depends on what you majored in. If you pick something like business administration or marketing it’s very reasonable to be making 75k or less at age 30

[ChrisLS8]

Mirin.
If I'm in a city I built something I'll drive by and check it out to see how it's looking. Doesn't happen often cause I'm a vagabond but it's cool when it happens.

Can you post any pictures bro? I would but I can only post youtube videos for some reason.

All the jobs I've had to sign an NDA for social media forms. Its been basically all the large tech companies though. Nvidia, Google, microsoft, Apple, Splunk etc

[ChrisLS8]

You a sparkie?

Steel framing.

Basically once the Ironworker neanderthals finish their work so they can re-up on heroin we build all the walls, roofs, ceilings, pony walls, soffits, or anything else that has a finish on it. I've even built stairs and waterfalls

[snailsrus]

Wish I went into welding with a union tbh. I love to weld. Instead I went into law

[stupid000]

All the jobs I've had to sign an NDA for social media forms. Its been basically all the large tech companies though. Nvidia, Google, microsoft, Apple, Splunk etc

That's a little weird to me, I believe you though. Before I got into equipment I could walk into dicks sporting goods red lobsters etc though that I was building with immunity and take pictures.

[stupid000]

Wish I went into welding with a union tbh. I love to weld. Instead I went into law

Welding is fun until you're working at a quarry and you have to fix something that's wet that you think you dried off and get shocked.

[Latinowarrior3]

I have a cousin that's a Sheetmetal journeyman in the bay area. $140k a year and he's a functioning alcoholic with a work ethic. I make that amount but served in the Marine Corps, got my undergrad, and have an MBA. 5 years of sheetmetal school would've been easier.

[stupid000]

I have a cousin that's a Sheetmetal journeyman in the bay area. $140k a year and he's a functioning alcoholic with a work ethic. I make that amount but served in the Marine Corps, got my undergrad, and have an MBA. 5 years of sheetmetal school would've been easier.

Not bring racist, because i love my latino bros, but you guys love the marines. Maybe a little racist because I love you fukers over most races, guess I'm backwards racist.

[vwdsg2468]

Bump

[EoR]

Yes a "good degree" otherwise no it's not better. People can start apprenticeships as early as highschool as well. It's a solid option if they have an interest and work hard. I know some people who had down payments for homes by their early 20s.

So yeah, if you get a GOOD degree like something in STEM then sure, but there are plenty of redundant degrees that will leave you in debt with no job.