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    Advice needed for 69 year old father

    -recently fell and fractured pelvis
    -no lifting history
    -has been told to exercise to strengthen the tendons and ligaments around the pelvis that have been stretched
    -bad knees, squatting is difficult
    - relatively good shape and active before fall
    -needs to build strength to remain active as he ages
    -i have a full Olympic gym, dumbbells, kettlebelks, tires, cables etc he can use.

    Any ideas on a program?
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    Sorry about your dad - you should prob talk to a PT who can customize something based on the specifics of the fracture - but I don't think he needs any of your equipment.

    You'll prob need to have him do exercises laying on his back - like leg lifts up/down/left/right and butt lifts. Think Kegel-looking stuff.
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    He should work with a medical rehab center Physical Therapist through his insurance. Someone referred by his orthopedic doc. Don’t try to program it yourself.
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    What they said ^

    Might want to consult with a nutritionist as well, to see if a certain diet or supplements may help.
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    The doctor basically told him to do swimming at first, then progressing to other strength stuff is ok..but was vague. Light strength training is ok apparently.. We don't have any public pools within 100 miles...so it's a bit of a chit show. Just entered a six week stay at home order...and physio here is tough to come by...no personal trainers either for at least six more weeks too.

    Once the doctor clears him and he is healed, I guess I am just looking for what you would do, injury aside for basic strength for an older fella with bad knees.

    He was told to build strength and any strength gains would help tighten up the tendons.
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    Originally Posted by Silencespeaks View Post
    He should work with a medical rehab center Physical Therapist through his insurance. Someone referred by his orthopedic doc. Don’t try to program it yourself.
    He has the er doctor that read his x Ray and told him to rest till he is healed, then explained that he might want to do some strength training to tighten chit up.

    That is literally where I am at lol

    The doctor never referred him to anything. His family doctor is away for two weeks.

    We aren't planning on doing anything till doctor says he is 100% healed
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    The crazy thing is, before he fell he could pick a 200 lb engine off the floor and put it on the work bench. In the middle of rebuilding a 30' boat...Years of working on motors... He's no slouch.


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    I’d start him on some air squats, wall pushups, light pulldowns....just to get started to see how he handles it. Then go up from there. I probably wouldn’t have him squatting or benching with a barbell anytime soon, but kbs and dbs are great training tools for beginners (and experienced lifters, who know how to make them effective).
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    You should ask on the barbell medicine forum. They will likely give you a solid idea what to do.
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    Try to get him to see a orthopedist, if possible. See if this can be done by telehealth if needed. Do you have access to the radiology report?

    I am a primary care pediatrician so this is out of my wheelhouse but looking around if it is a stable fracture several sources suggest using crutches to minimize weight bearing and to do PT. https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseas...vic-fractures/ Maybe the ER doc felt the fracture was so mild that crutches are not indicated could you post the report if you have it?

    Barbell Medicine may have orthopedists on their team, if so checking in with them would be a good idea for sure if you do not have access otherwise.
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    Try to get him to see a orthopedist, if possible. See if this can be done by telehealth if needed. Do you have access to the radiology report?

    I am a primary care pediatrician so this is out of my wheelhouse but looking around if it is a stable fracture several sources suggest using crutches to minimize weight bearing and to do PT. https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseas...vic-fractures/ Maybe the ER doc felt the fracture was so mild that crutches are not indicated could you post the report if you have it?

    Barbell Medicine may have orthopedists on their team, if so checking in with them would be a good idea for sure if you do not have access otherwise.
    Thanks. I should have said, he's on crutches, but able to move around. He drives his truck occasionally. The soft tissue around the pelvis is all bruised, but I'm really looking at post recovery stuff. If he does too much movement hr pays for it big time at night with pain...

    I'd like to see if he can high chair air squat then progressively go lower and how his knees are.


    The issue with being rural is no gyms, and no close pts.

    I have personal trained before, but helping 19 year Old rugby players double their lifts with a linear program is child's play really compared to this.
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    Originally Posted by Hutrapper View Post
    Thanks. I should have said, he's on crutches, but able to move around. He drives his truck occasionally. The soft tissue around the pelvis is all bruised, but I'm really looking at post recovery stuff. If he does too much movement hr pays for it big time at night with pain...

    I'd like to see if he can high chair air squat then progressively go lower and how his knees are.


    The issue with being rural is no gyms, and no close pts.

    I have personal trained before, but helping 19 year Old rugby players double their lifts with a linear program is child's play really compared to this.
    You should really try the barbell medicine forum they have Q&A with the doctors so I think you’ll get far superior suggestions compared to any of us on here.
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    If you're really just curious about how to train someone in the elderly years then it actually isn't very different than the typical advice here (assuming no significant health concerns). Some general considerations with supporting links:
    - Good progress can be made even into one's 80s: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32740889/
    - Exercise interventions in the elderly seem to be safe. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32020543/
    - You can make good progress initially with low volume. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28962853/
    - Greater time for recovery may be needed between sessions. I'd keep frequency at <=3x/wk. Some authors suggest >2x/wk is not going to be beneficial: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/...4.2020.1822595
    - There is weak evidence that fast concentric velocities are better than slower in the elderly. I would still recommend doing them faster but they do not have to be done explosively if there is any concern of injury. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31505227/ and https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32233989/

    This is older but a good read for general info (it hasn't been updated since it was published): https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/F...Adults.20.aspx
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    If you're really just curious about how to train someone in the elderly years then it actually isn't very different than the typical advice here (assuming no significant health concerns). Some general considerations with supporting links:
    - Good progress can be made even into one's 80s: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32740889/
    - Exercise interventions in the elderly seem to be safe. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32020543/
    - You can make good progress initially with low volume. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28962853/
    - Greater time for recovery may be needed between sessions. I'd keep frequency at <=3x/wk. Some authors suggest >2x/wk is not going to be beneficial: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/...4.2020.1822595
    - There is weak evidence that fast concentric velocities are better than slower in the elderly. I would still recommend doing them faster but they do not have to be done explosively if there is any concern of injury. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31505227/ and https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32233989/

    This is older but a good read for general info (it hasn't been updated since it was published): https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/F...Adults.20.aspx
    His father broke his pelvis so a proper protocol while rehabbing is needed.
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    Originally Posted by Filmbuff81 View Post
    His father broke his pelvis so a proper protocol while rehabbing is needed.
    I know that but he said he is looking at post recovery stuff so I just wanted to answer that question. There aren't that many threads around here on training the elderly. Maybe you're right though and he will jump the gun with the above info and his father will further injured. Hopefully that's not the case.
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