The survival rate is actually 98.2%, and survival rate is not the only factor in determining how dangerous a virus is.
Virus A has a mortality rate of 50%, its has low contagiousness and only spreads to 10,000 Americans before it dies out. 5,000 deaths.
Virus B (covid) has a mortality rate of 1.8%, its contagiousness is so high that it will eventually spread to virtually all 330,000,000 Americans. 5,940,000 deaths.
Which virus is worse?
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Thread: RIP if you took the Vaccine
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04-08-2021, 11:55 AM #69
Can confirm where is purple over the rainbow in the news yesterday?
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OP will be vindicated, all of us who were warning people we know to not take the vaccine. Imo effects will begin to show in the 6-18 month time frame, they will be widespread and the media machine will attribute them to everything but the vax- and they will cnsor any and everyone who says that all of these "side effects" are happening in only people who took the vax.
We know a few things for certain, a few indisputable facts:
-vax deaths are being attributed to everything but, medical orgs are going out of their way telling doctors NOT to report deaths from vaccine ex: anyone who tests positive for covid within the last 28 days and dies- it does not matter how car accident, stroke etc- is labeled as a covid death. Anyone who dies 48 hours after taking the vax, even if perfectly healthy and young, is attributed to natural causes or otherwise
-the propaganda push for these vaccines is the biggest marketing effort any of us have ever seen, it cannot be denied. Why? People should be begging for a vax during a deadly disease outbreak, no?
- Every single doctor, virologist or nurse who has been brave enough to speak up about the covid/vax scam has been censored/shutdown/fired/canceled immediately. Every single one. The medical machine is canceling them as fast as they possibly can, no one is allowed to question the narrative.
-only ~35,000 deaths have been FROM covid itself, this is a fact buried on the CDCs own website
-chance of dying for healthy people under something like 60 is 99.7%, again why are they pushing for every man woman and child to get an experimental vax for what amounts to the common cold?
-the median age covid death is something like 77 years old (!)
-according to VAERS- ~4000 people in Europe alone have died from the vaccine so far, that we know of. In the US that number is north of 1500. Worth the risk for a virus that you will almost certainly survive?
Based on those facts alone, I think anyone who takes the experimental vax is insane. Just my opinion.
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04-08-2021, 12:22 PM #73
You think?
One thing, I'm with you on the way they are censoring people talking about the vaccine negatively. That's kind of frightening, even if these people are just wrong or something, this new-age idea that "sPReaDiNg mIsINfoRMaTiOn!!!" must be censored non-stop by the media and big corporations?
I point this out: They did this back when Trump simply said HQC looked promising. First, they made it seem like he said it was a cure, then they shut it down and mocked anyone who said otherwise, censored doctors over it and even pushed nonsensical studies linking it to dangers or showing it was ineffective.
Oh and then months later - whoops, turns out it is helpful when taken with zinc and started early. Reduces infection time and lessens symptoms. How many people who died from the virus might have had their symptoms lessened and survived, I wonder?
Still, someone at risk isn't insane for taking it, I don't think. Someone young and healthy? Maybe. Someone with a legitimate risk of covid however, they need to weigh that against the unknown risk of the vaccine (and, personally, I think the vaccine for those people could be far less of a risk).
If I were 77 years old, 300llbs, a type2 diabetic with a damaged liver or something? I would get the JNJ vaccine, sure.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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04-08-2021, 02:04 PM #78
Yup. Statistics are real, but risk isn't spread evenly amongst the population. Try this:
If there are x amount of traffic fatalaties among y number of drivers, you could deduce the odds of person z dying in a car crash. However, Ken Block driving a volvo SUV for 50k miles in Los Angeles is at far less risk than your neighborhood meth addict with a revoked license driving a clapped out Fiat 500 Abarth. One is a very skilled driver driving a very safe, over-engineered and large safe vehicle; the other is a tweaker with 0 skill and a pos death trap. So while odds overall can be stated, they don't apply evenly to everyone.
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I was going to drag out getting it, then our governor dropped the mask mandate and whatnot (which thankfully hasn't caused an outbreak) and my brother told me he had just intubated a 40 year old man with no comorbidities and that the guy almost had a heart attack.
While I have a 99.8% likelihood of surviving covid if I get it, the thought of a few days or more of pneumonia, the inflammation lingering in the cardiovascular system, and all the other **** that make this disease a different animal from the flu were enough to convince me to get the vax.Heterologously Vaccinated Superior Race Crew
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04-08-2021, 06:16 PM #88
psychologists would have a field day ITT with all the delusion
if this isn't proof that mass reeducation camps are needed idk what is
why do all the psychopaths keep bringing up the "survival rate"
fact: 574K Americans died the past year with masks AND social distancing AND lockdowns. get help.Balanced Test Crew
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04-08-2021, 06:23 PM #89
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04-08-2021, 06:49 PM #90
Except you are quoting old inaccurate mortality rate stats.
Those are Wuhan stats and they were discovered to be skewed because that city had a larger than average elderly population. Last I read, which was months ago, the mortality rate is less than is something like .05.
THAT NUMBER is skewed by people who got tested.
I got corona and did not get tested and I had a variety of coworkers in the same category. So, there were MILLIONS if not TENS of MILLIONS of people who did not get tested and are now fine.
So, all of those stats are off because it's "pretend science" where they pretend they have complete data, and they do not.If you want to ask me a question:
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