As a Trump supporter, I do not want to see him run again!

[VegasLifter26]

I think Ron Desantis would make a much better candidate and have a better shot at winning. First and foremost, Trump should still get his messages out and backing, but he should stay in the background. Desantis is a much more polished candidate that handled the coronavirus pretty well, look how many people moved to Florida. Also, he apparently fixed the election issues that were going on in certain counties. That being said, I believe Desantis wont give the media so much ammo to use against him like Trump did. He seems like a dude with a strong backbone with how hes handling this covid-passport issue. I really like the guy. Thoughts?

[Hypernation]

I agree. And Trump would never run as a VP. That ain’t him. He still wants to stay prominent in politics. Pretty sure his kids want to follow in those footsteps.

I could see the Don with a prominent role of some sort on the POTUS advisory team.

[128]

Agreed, it's still Trump's party but I think he'd be better off supporting/campaigning for America First candidates around the country and purging the GOP of RINOs.

[128]

I agree. And Trump would never run as a VP. That ain’t him. He still wants to stay prominent in politics. Pretty sure his kids want to follow in those footsteps.

I could see the Don with a prominent role of some sort on the POTUS advisory team.

Someone needs to govern Florida after DeSantis

[Kraken]

We need to bring back classic liberalism and libertarianism. None of this Keynesian horse chit that even Trump used. No more corruping socialist bullchit

The future of America depends on reestablishing its independence from government and Trump isn’t the one to do that. We must rip the bandaid off or we are doomed. Societies like the one we are becoming are destined to fail.

I’d rather die from a virus than allow the tyranny of the state by giving it more power and then corrupting us with money. I’d rather suffer poverty from economic depression than to see government rewriting civil rights and burning our constitution.

The free market and liberty was the greatest possible scenario of preventing the inevitable totalitarian, authoritarian state, and dictatorships and the oppression and the great suffering and murder they cause

[VegasLifter26]

We need to bring back classic liberalism and libertarianism. None of this Keynesian horse chit that even Trump used. No more corruping socialist bullchit

The future of America depends on reestablishing its independence from government and Trump isn’t the one to do that. We must rip the bandaid off or we are doomed. Societies like the one we are becoming are destined to fail.

I’d rather die from a virus than allow the tyranny of the state by giving it more power and then corrupting us with money. I’d rather suffer poverty from economic depression than to see government rewriting civil rights and burning our constitution.

The free market and liberty was the greatest possible scenario of preventing the inevitable totalitarian, authoritarian state, and dictatorships and the oppression and the great suffering and murder they cause

Not gonna happen when the largest corporations in this country are spending hundreds of millions of dollars getting lawmakers elected.

And most people are the opposite - theyd rather not die and be saved with a free vaccine and a couple $1200 checks

[HarryfromCali]

I’d love to see DeSantis and Kristi Noem run in 2024!

[Jasonw1178]

Honestly, facts are facts, and although Trump still has ton's of energy and such, he's goig to be 78 years old (Biden's age) in 2024, and when you are that age, the decline is rapid, although Trump is an anomaly. His 2020 campaign wasn't as smooth as his 2016 campaign. Maybe the stress of being POTUS and all was making it harder I don't know. Although, it would be awesome to see him win again.

[VegasLifter26]

Honestly, facts are facts, and although Trump still has ton's of energy and such, he's goig to be 78 years old (Biden's age) in 2024, and when you are that age, the decline is rapid, although Trump is an anomaly. His 2020 campaign wasn't as smooth as his 2016 campaign. Maybe the stress of being POTUS and all was making it harder I don't know. Although, it would be awesome to see him win again.

He had so much momentum and energy for the last 4 years it will be extremely hard to replicate that 4 years later. Republicans will need a complete facelift with the 2022 primaries. The good news is that Democrats have terrible policies so hopefully the American people will be able to see that. I actually dont think his 2020 campaign was that bad, the media was just dead-set on not getting him re-elected. Just imagine if Trump has big tech and the media on his side. It would have been a landslide

[John L]

He had so much momentum and energy for the last 4 years it will be extremely hard to replicate that 4 years later. Republicans will need a complete facelift with the 2022 primaries. The good news is that Democrats have terrible policies so hopefully the American people will be able to see that. I actually dont think his 2020 campaign was that bad, the media was just dead-set on not getting him re-elected. Just imagine if Trump has big tech and the media on his side. It would have been a landslide

His 2020 campaign was awful. One of the worst I’ve ever seen. It was so bad they lost to a guy that didn’t even have a campaign. No idea what they were thinking.

I like DeSantis too, but I’m not sure how he’d perform in the rust belt.

[Kraken]

“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing Evils but by removing the corruption and restoring it’s lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil”

Thomas Jefferson

[VegasLifter26]

His 2020 campaign was awful. One of the worst I’ve ever seen. It was so bad they lost to a guy that didn’t even have a campaign. No idea what they were thinking.

I like DeSantis too, but I’m not sure how he’d perform in the rust belt.

Trump's campaign compared to Biden's was much better. Like you said, Biden didnt even campaign. Just think what an uphill battle the republicans are faced with in order to win an election. North Carolina and Georgia NEVER should have been that close. It just goes to show you how the demographics of the country are changing.

[VegasLifter26]

“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing Evils but by removing the corruption and restoring it’s lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil”

Thomas Jefferson

those guys lived in an entirely different time period. Jefferson was a modern day genius. He also said this quote

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants,”"

:Jefferson feared that it would only be a matter of time before the American system of government degenerated into a form of “elective despotism” (1785)"

[SmithMachineGuy]

We need to bring back classic liberalism and libertarianism. None of this Keynesian horse chit that even Trump used. No more corruping socialist bullchit

The future of America depends on reestablishing its independence from government and Trump isn’t the one to do that. We must rip the bandaid off or we are doomed. Societies like the one we are becoming are destined to fail.

I’d rather die from a virus than allow the tyranny of the state by giving it more power and then corrupting us with money. I’d rather suffer poverty from economic depression than to see government rewriting civil rights and burning our constitution.

The free market and liberty was the greatest possible scenario of preventing the inevitable totalitarian, authoritarian state, and dictatorships and the oppression and the great suffering and murder they cause

Agree mostly, but the one thing you need for free markets to function without tyranny is competition. We have a scenario now where these private tech giants are so big they are a de-facto government and there is no competition. They are powerful enough to immediately shut down any prospective competition.
Our society is so dependent on the tech, something needs to be done to either reintroduce real free-market competition, or regulate them like a utility. They were able to 'non-person' the billionaire President of the United States because he said stuff they did not agree with. If they can do that to him, what hope does an average person have?

[guitarwar241]

He had so much momentum and energy for the last 4 years it will be extremely hard to replicate that 4 years later. Republicans will need a complete facelift with the 2022 primaries. The good news is that Democrats have terrible policies so hopefully the American people will be able to see that. I actually dont think his 2020 campaign was that bad, the media was just dead-set on not getting him re-elected. Just imagine if Trump has big tech and the media on his side. It would have been a landslide

Sorry, but Trump's reelection campaign was atrocious. He had no clear message and was mostly just catering to his base instead of trying to sway voters who were on the fence. If he put together a halfway decent campaign, he would've had a much better chance of winning.

[wickedman]

Too old. Should support DeSantis and not run again.

[OPGenesis]

Lol @ cucks in this thread waiting for their next savior politician.

Then after DeSantis it will be some other ******* that is going to save the day.

[VegasLifter26]

Lol @ cucks in this thread waiting for their next savior politician.

Then after DeSantis it will be some other ******* that is going to save the day.

Nobody is waiting for a savior. The way our country works is we have to vote for elected officials to represent us

[128]

Who's the backup in case the establishment magically finds a woman DeSantis held a door open for in 1993 to MeToo him out of contention?

[128]

Nobody is waiting for a savior. The way our country works is we have to vote for elected officials to represent us

LMAO how dare you have someone you want to be President, just vote for whoever the TV tells you to vote for bro.

[OPGenesis]

Nobody is waiting for a savior. The way our country works is we have to vote for elected officials to represent us

How's that working out? lmao.

Keep living in lalaland, son.

You have to pay to play in this world.

[Noliberals4]

Sorry, but Trump's reelection campaign was atrocious. He had no clear message and was mostly just catering to his base instead of trying to sway voters who were on the fence. If he put together a halfway decent campaign, he would've had a much better chance of winning.

Right? I mean, why the hell did he think it was a good idea to go into that first debate totally unprepared?

Trump actually bought the "Biden is senile and can't think straight" rhetoric. I thought most right wingers were just meming/BSing, but they actually believed it.

Trump is an absolute idiot, but he is a great con artist.

[OPGenesis]

Right? I mean, why the hell did he think it was a good idea to go into that first debate totally unprepared?

Trump actually bought the "Biden is senile and can't think straight" rhetoric. I thought most right wingers were just meming/BSing, but they actually believed it.

Trump is an absolute idiot, but he is a great con artist.

I couldn't even get through the first debate. Both sides were literally atrocious. Trump's talking points were embarrassing. When he started ranting about socialism that was a yikes from me, and I changed the channel.

Everybody knows he is an unread idiot though. I place the blame more or the people who were preparing him. They are just as unread as he is. There was so much material there for his team to capitalize on, and he utterly failed.

[StinkholePatrol]

Don't trust Zion Don anymore.

I didn't trust him in the beginning either, but he earned it...then later dashed it. Not unopposed to him earning it again but would need to see some real credibility boosters between now and 2024 for me to change my mind.

It really sat unwell with me after he abandoned his followers, he still had alot of momentum. He could of doubled-down and made something happen. He had millions ready to back his decision.


But really: Given who his children are married to, I just don't see him as "authentic" anymore. The more you look into it the sadder you get.




Desantis looks promising; He has essentially moved Florida into the position of GOP State leader. Where-as Texas formerly had that role. However, remember who is governor of Texas and when did he get elected(2015)? Does he truly represent the will/spirit of Texas? Again...the more you look into the more depressing it gets.


I believe we are truly outmatched and outsmarted at every turn. I do not see victory by voting for the GOP ever again.

[OPGenesis]

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The highlight of Trump's presidency was the Golan Heights and relocating the US embassy to Jerusalem.

#PromisesmadePromiseskept

[StinkholePatrol]

The highlight of Trump's presidency was the Golan Heights and relocating the US embassy to Jerusalem.

#PromisesmadePromiseskept

Bro the more you look around the more it sets in that you're on the losing team. We actually suck at politics.

We still have options on the table though:

1. Organization is hard when most social media/networking is refereed by the enemy team. But we need to organize. We need a collective that is independent of elected mediations.

Reddit is essentially the collective for the left, it has so many millions. Just look at R/news...20MILLION subs and it's all left-wing propaganda and censored for wrong-think(Thats just 1 sub). We need to match that, is GAB the answer? We have nothing right now, a few fringe sites like 4chan and misc.


2. Plan of Action: This isn't just politics anymore, Christian genocide looks more real every day. This may be life or death for many conservative voters.

Should we focus on federal positions anymore? Should we just focus on local politics and claim a few states? It looks like that's already happening in the NW belt. The NW belt is a poor strategic location as it's on top of a super volcano that can be influenced by human technology.

I consider Texas lost at this point, by next election it will likely blue and it is subverted at the highest levels.

What about total retreat? We have Russia and Poland for options. Poland has public elections where we can influence, Our wealth will also go far there.

Russia looks good, Putin seems competent and completely opposed to Globalism at every opportunity. As much as the media Shills against him makes me know I can trust him. However if we go to Russia you have to understand; It's Putin way or the high-way. There is no debate here, we will be followers not leaders.


There might be other countries I overlooked.



TLDR:
We have options but we need to organize. Let's start with that and get a few million minds together. Donald Trumps twitter subs were the old collective, we need a new-answer that is independent of elected officials.

[A-GAME]

I'm not American, but I do support Trump and agree he shouldn't run again. He had his shot and he did his best. He could have done better in several areas, but the country and the GOP in particular really let him down. If he had the support he needed America would have been in a completely different situation right now.

[MMeadows11]

You retarded Trunppublicans need to run Matt Gaetz/Lauren Baubert. Or that other retarded Q-Anon gun nut that also just got elected, I can't really tell your dipchits apart.

[VegasLifter26]

I'm not American, but I do support Trump and agree he shouldn't run again. He had his shot and he did his best. He could have done better in several areas, but the country and the GOP in particular really let him down. If he had the support he needed America would have been in a completely different situation right now.

completely agree.

I think Trump made some critical mistakes. Especially with who he appointed as judges. He should have picked the most far right, conservative ones. He must have been getting some awful advice in DC. But the republican establishment is really who let him down - starting with Paul Ryan not getting anything done in the House , McCain backstabbing trump on that Obamacare vote, and Lindsay Graham not doing jack chit on the judiciary committee. Trump got 0 help from his republican congress. They just used his platform so they could win their re-elections

[Phil9]

Seeing how Trump barely beat Hillary and got his chit pushed in by Joe, while losing the popular vote in both, I can’t blame you.