Is it weird to be 30+ male with no kids?

[shoelaces]

Coworkers with kids always tell me how I absolutely have to have them.

Misery loves company. Notice how happy people with kids never tell others to have kids. But for some reason the most miserable and angry parents always tell others that they should have kids.

You should have kids if you have wealth to pass down or some invaluable skill that will be lost once you die. Basically 90% of people have no business having kids. They are just going to end up low skill wage slaves like you. Why bother.

[Jaydawg08]

Some parts of me wish I had a family by now like about 90% of my close friends. I feel like at that stage in my life where I don't have alot in common with them. They're kids are starting school and they're on 7+ years of marriage, and having couples nights with neighbors and coworkers.

I'm selfish with my time and think I'll prob always be that way. Babysitting my niece and nephews are enough so far

[tk217]

You should only have kids if you're making a really good wage for your area. Poor people really should not have kids yet do because they're so irresponsible.

The only advice people should understand is you can have kids even if you're poor (right now) as long as you get to a point where you should have kids (make a lot more money later). If you can never reach the financial goal of being able to actually support your potential family and struggle supporting yourself still - don't have kids. Are you retarded - why do you want stress, burdens, and emotional trauma when you aren't even 'making it' in your area? Irresponsible.

[shoelaces]

You should only have kids if you're making a really good wage for your area. Poor people really should not have kids yet do because they're so irresponsible.

The only advice people should understand is you can have kids even if you're poor (right now) as long as you get to a point where you should have kids (make a lot more money later). If you can never reach the financial goal of being able to actually support your potential family and struggle supporting yourself still - don't have kids. Are you retarded - why do you want stress, burdens, and emotional trauma when you aren't even 'making it' in your area? Irresponsible.

Do you really think poor people care or understand this? They are poor for a reason. They were born into poverty just like their parents, grandparents, etc. Lack of education and foresight are the prime reasons.

Not to mention it feels good to fukk and it is one of our prime biological urges. I am willing to bet the vast majority of pregnancies are unwanted.

If you have kids when you are in poverty you are just dooming them to the same chitty lifestyle that you had to endure. There is no way to catch up to people who were born into wealth. They attended the best schools, taught how to succeed by their already rich parents, have powerful connections, etc.

[Parisii]

I used to want a kid but now I realize it was only because I was "supposed to" and because I would be like a failure if I didn't spread my genes. I don't think that anymore. I'm pretty sure there is a strong cope about parenthood nowadays where it's supposed to be this amazing experience and the meaning of life, but I think it was mostly never seen like this before modern times. People didn't have reliable contraception and just wanted to ****, kids were a consequence and that's it. Also in the agragian societies having a kid is an investment for the future, nowadays it's a pure money pit so people have to double down on the existential meaning of child raising in order to justify it to themselves and others. A consequence of that is that parents who don't feel so elated about raising their children feel like there is something wrong with them, even though it's not the case.

[goonsondeck]

^^ Reminds me of people who have this mindset: "I'll have kids so they can take care of me when I'm frail, old and gray." It sounds selfish and ignorant to me.


For people who believe in having kids because it's expected of them but aren't truly qualified: think long and hard about what may be the most important and impactful decision of your life! If you are battling some type of addiction it's a major red flag, obviously.

this is cope I hate my parents

[etet1919]

this is cope I hate my parents

I might have been exaggerating a little bit here. Yes, it's reasonable to assume your children will take care of you as you grow older and need help! If you love them that's what you do- no questions asked! It can be very trying, no doubt.. takes tremendous patience and energy. But that's what loving families do. They help each other in times of need.




Why do you hate your parents though? 'Hate' is a strong word.

[EnderG60]

I didnt have kids until I was 36. Most "people" assume something is wrong if you dont have a wife and kids by 30. Fuk them, having kids sucks and you better be REALLY sure about who you have them with.

[Parisii]

I didnt have kids until I was 36. Most "people" assume something is wrong if you dont have a wife and kids by 30. Fuk them, having kids sucks and you better be REALLY sure about who you have them with.

Do you regret having kids?

[OliverHeldens]

This is really only the case if you live in the suburbs or in a rural area. It's not really weird at all to be single and childless in a city.

[dogorman7]

Wtf

That’s a beautiful blessing ded fkn srs

[phaginator]

Just lol at cucks who falter to societal/spousal pressure to have muh kidz. You're a fcking man not a woman with a biological clock, have them when you want and are ready. Fck what society says

[LeiaJones]

Just do you, don't worry about what society or anyone else thinks is normal...some people never have kids and lead a happy life

[goonsondeck]

I might have been exaggerating a little bit here. Yes, it's reasonable to assume your children will take care of you as you grow older and need help! If you love them that's what you do- no questions asked! It can be very trying, no doubt.. takes tremendous patience and energy. But that's what loving families do. They help each other in times of need.




Why do you hate your parents though? 'Hate' is a strong word.

I dont hate my mum but I have a chip on my shoulder - she got pregnant (with another dude I never met) while in the middle of a divorce with my dad, just completely irresponsible and selfish behavior.

my dad tried to mould me from birth to be some thing im not, a little corporate suck ass - still tries to control my life for some strange reason, calls me and tells me I need to do this and that, I feel sick when I have to see him, always has something negative to say to me.

[GeezersPalace]

Some of the reasoning here is ridiculous. Why pay for your own kids when the government can pay for them lol

I'm telling you boyos just knock up some bitch in SE Asia or Latin America.

Look at all the cucks on here talking about Financial Independance. Make some money in a property boom and suddenly worried about ur wealth protection

[Silencespeaks]

Do you really think poor people care or understand this? They are poor for a reason. They were born into poverty just like their parents, grandparents, etc. Lack of education and foresight are the prime reasons.

Not to mention it feels good to fukk and it is one of our prime biological urges. I am willing to bet the vast majority of pregnancies are unwanted.

If you have kids when you are in poverty you are just dooming them to the same chitty lifestyle that you had to endure. There is no way to catch up to people who were born into wealth. They attended the best schools, taught how to succeed by their already rich parents, have powerful connections, etc.

Agreed I think it’s really irresponsible for poor people to have kids but ofc that is the norm.

It’s not fair to condemn your kids to a lifetime of either money worries or wage slaving.

[DesiredUserphag]

lol at cucks who project there lack of freedom and suffering on others by trying to force other ppl to have kids like them

This. brb an old coworker said "whatever you do, don't get married or have kids. you'll be drinking nightly like me. just fuk all the chicks you can". Rofl, luckily I've been doing that all of my adult life.

[Silencespeaks]

Do you regret having kids?

No parents will ever openly admit this because it’s so taboo. And they do genuinely love their kids even if they regret the lifestyle change.

[iloveus]

I have a strange dilemna where I want kids but I don't want to get married

[Parisii]

No parents will ever openly admit this because it’s so taboo. And they do genuinely love their kids even if they regret the lifestyle change.

Yes that's true, I shouldn't even ask that on a public forum. I've read of several accounts of parents on the internet who said they would painlessly "ctrl Z" their kids out of existence if they could though, so even if it's taboo it does seem to exist.

[p100]

I have kids and wife and enjoy it. I will never tell someone else to have kids. In fact I will discourage people I don't like from having kids and spreading their stupidity. Only married couples should have kids. These bastards (40% of births in US are to unwed parents), and children of married couples who will get divorced, are going to have huge negative consequences on society. The only positive from the LGBT lifestyle, other than aids, is they don't have children.

Also more kids = more competition for my kids in the future for jobs, scholarships, etc.

I enjoy it and plan to have more kids. If you want them then have them, if not then don't.