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    If the government had a death lazer that shot people named Daniel, we wouldn't ask why people called Daniel are being targeted, we would ask why the f*ck the government has a death laser.
    Because death lasers are cool?

    Daniel didn't realize that. He was hating on death lasers for no reason and he got what he deserved IMO.
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    Because death lasers are cool?

    Daniel didn't realize that. He was hating on death lasers for no reason and he got what he deserved IMO.
    Daniels hates lasers because he is anti-science.

    It's 2021. We know how to deal with these anti-science types.
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    Juror claims he had no information on the Floyd case yet now information is coming out about him attending rallies, wearing BLM shirts, etc.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    Juror claims he had no information on the Floyd case yet now information is coming out about him attending rallies, wearing BLM shirts, etc.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-...?ocid=msedgntp
    Well fuk me, this could open a can of worms
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    Well fuk me, this could open a can of worms
    At the least this juror could be facing jail and fines for perjury seeing as how he lied to the court about knowing anything about the case and or was unbiased.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    At least this juror could be facing jail and fines for perjury seeing as how he lied to the court about knowing anything about the case and or was unbiased.
    No court will have the balls to go after the jury.

    But it will force the hands for the appeal
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    Here is the voire dire questionnaire:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...questions.html

    Ultimately, the question will be whether this juror's answers to the questionnaire were true. It is entirely possible that his answers were all honest.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    At the least this juror could be facing jail and fines for perjury seeing as how he lied to the court about knowing anything about the case and or was unbiased.
    0% chance he'll get charged with perjury for going to a civil rights event and not considering it an anti-police event. It could be an issue if knowing all this during voir dire would have been likely to result in being struck for cause. But to be fair, the defense probably should have asked better questions.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    0% chance he'll get charged with perjury for going to a civil rights event and not considering it an anti-police event. It could be an issue if knowing all this during voir dire would have been likely to result in being struck for cause. But to be fair, the defense probably should have asked better questions.
    The fact that the shirt he wore said “off my neck” shows he was already biased about Chauvin and he also said in the question he had made no opinion regarding the case which clearly with that shirt at a civil rights even proves he’s a liar.
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    Originally Posted by JRMoore82 View Post
    The fact that the shirt he wore said “off my neck” shows he was already biased about Chauvin and he also said in the question he had made no opinion regarding the case which clearly with that shirt at a civil rights even proves he’s a liar.

    Did you see his responses in the questionnaire and at voir dire? I don’t really see this moving the ball much. He stated he'd watched clips of bystander videos, and that his opinion of them was

    "why didn't the other officers stop Chauvin."
    Asked to expand on that, he said

    "I don't know if he was doing something wrong or not, but somebody died ... Even if you have no intention of doing something and something happens, somebody could've still intervened and prevented that,"
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Did you see his responses in the questionnaire and at voir dire? I don’t really see this moving the ball much. He stated he'd watched clips of bystander videos, and that his opinion of them was



    Asked to expand on that, he said
    That still denies Chauvin his constitutional right to innocence until proven guilty.

    Having a negative look on just the fact someone died means he walked into the jury room with a bias.

    Again, that’s a constitutional violation for Chauvin
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    Derek Chauvin's legal team files motion in Minneapolis court requesting new trial on multiple grounds, including jury misconduct.


    The legal team for former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who was convicted of murdering George Floyd last month, has filed a motion in a Minneapolis court requesting a new trial on multiple grounds, including jury misconduct.

    In the filing, Chauvin’s attorney says the former officer should have a new trial in the “interests of justice; abuse of discretion that deprived the Defendant of a fair trial; prosecutorial and jury misconduct; errors of law at trial; and a verdict that is contrary to law.”

    "The jury committed misconduct, felt threatened or intimidated, felt race-based pressure during the proceedings, and/or failed to adhere to instructions during deliberations, in violation of Mr. Chauvin’s constitutional rights to due process and a fair trial," attorney Eric Nelson writes in the filing.

    MORE: Derek Chauvin to be sentenced for killing of George Floyd on June 16
    Nelson also claims that the court failed to sequester the jury during the trial, which resulted to their exposure “to prejudicial publicity regarding the trial during the proceedings, as well as jury intimidation and potential fear of retribution among jurors.”

    Chauvin was found guilty April 20 of second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter in the death of George Floyd.
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    Originally Posted by JRMoore82 View Post
    That still denies Chauvin his constitutional right to innocence until proven guilty.

    Having a negative look on just the fact someone died means he walked into the jury room with a bias.

    Again, that’s a constitutional violation for Chauvin
    As i said earlier the defense should have asked better questions. I don’t know what will happen with any Chauvin appeal, my only point was the juror didn’t commit perjury.
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    As i said earlier the defense should have asked better questions. I don’t know what will happen with any Chauvin appeal, my only point was the juror didn’t commit perjury.
    All I have to say is good f'cking luck finding 12 more people in the US who haven't formed an opinion about this case and/or seen the footage of the killing. I'm sure they are out there, but rare to find one....especially one of color.
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    Derek Chauvin's legal team files motion in Minneapolis court requesting new trial on multiple grounds, including jury misconduct.


    The legal team for former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who was convicted of murdering George Floyd last month, has filed a motion in a Minneapolis court requesting a new trial on multiple grounds, including jury misconduct.

    In the filing, Chauvin’s attorney says the former officer should have a new trial in the “interests of justice; abuse of discretion that deprived the Defendant of a fair trial; prosecutorial and jury misconduct; errors of law at trial; and a verdict that is contrary to law.”

    "The jury committed misconduct, felt threatened or intimidated, felt race-based pressure during the proceedings, and/or failed to adhere to instructions during deliberations, in violation of Mr. Chauvin’s constitutional rights to due process and a fair trial," attorney Eric Nelson writes in the filing.

    MORE: Derek Chauvin to be sentenced for killing of George Floyd on June 16
    Nelson also claims that the court failed to sequester the jury during the trial, which resulted to their exposure “to prejudicial publicity regarding the trial during the proceedings, as well as jury intimidation and potential fear of retribution among jurors.”

    Chauvin was found guilty April 20 of second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter in the death of George Floyd.
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    More Charges

    Derek Chauvin and three other former Minneapolis policer officers involved in George Floyd's death were indicted Friday on federal civil rights charges.

    The indictment alleges Chauvin, Tou Thao, J. Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane deprived Floyd's rights when they saw him lying on the ground "in clear need" of medical care, but "willfully failed to aid Floyd, thereby acting with deliberate indifference to a substantial risk of harm."


    "Chauvin held his left knee across George Floyd's neck, and his right knee on Floyd's back and arm, as George Floyd lay on the ground, handcuffed and unresisting, and kept his knees on Floyd's neck and body even after Floyd became unresponsive," the indictment said. "This offense resulted in bodily injury to, and the death of George Floyd."

    In addition to allegedly violating Floyd’s rights, Chauvin is named a second, separate indictment filed on Thursday for deprivation of rights under color of law for allegedly violating the civil rights of a 14-year-old in 2017. The indictment said "Chauvin, without legal justification, held" the teen "by the throat and struck Juvenile 1 multiple times in the head with a flashlight." Chauvin is also accused of holding "his knee on the neck and the upper back of Juvenile 1 even after Juvenile 1 was lying prone, handcuffed, and unresisting."


    Thao and Kueng are separately charged in count two of the indictment for depriving Floyd's rights, with the grand jury accusing them of being "aware that [Chauvin] was holding his knee across George Floyd's neck as Floyd lay handcuffed and unresisting, and that Defendant Chauvin continued to hold Floyd to the ground even after Floyd became unresponsive, and the defendants willfully failed to intervene to stop Defendant Chauvin's use of unreasonable force."
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