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    Originally Posted by Oceanside View Post
    I think you're missing the point here...
    I don’t think so. It’s pretty clear the defense is trying to sow doubt in the jury’s mind on what killed Floyd.

    Floyd popping off at the mouth about not being able to breathe when he was upright, pretty much would give anyone pause to believe him when he was on the ground...
    This argument makes no sense as witnesses have already testified that Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd’s neck for over 4 minutes after he was told Floyd didn’t have a pulse.
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    that's all I was saying "Perry Mason"
    I’m old but jesus, I am not that fckn old.
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    how many days this will go on? and I wonder how much all of this cost!
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    Some great observations and comments guys, I found all the Witnesses called yesterday interesting even the fellow with the 3 strand combover.



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    how many days this will go on? and I wonder how much all of this cost!
    It will go on until it is over and will cost a lot
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    Another man shot by police in Minneapolis (Traffic Stop)

    The judge in the trial of Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis policeman charged with George Floyd's deadly arrest last May, denied a defense request on Monday to sequester the jurors after police in a neighboring city fatally shot a Black man.


    I think they should have been Sequestered from the start and even more so now





    Here is the video of the kids mom telling the story of the shooting if anyone is interested




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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    The judge in the trial of Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis policeman charged with George Floyd's deadly arrest last May, denied a defense request on Monday to sequester the jurors after police in a neighboring city fatally shot a Black man.


    I think they should have been Sequestered from the start and even more so now





    Here is the video of the kids mom telling the story of the shooting if anyone is interested




    The report is the female officer accidentally grabbed her gun instead of her taser when the kid tried to flee. Horrible.
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    Originally Posted by ajdahlheimer View Post
    The report is the female officer accidentally grabbed her gun instead of her taser when the kid tried to flee. Horrible.
    Damn aj, thanks for the update.. that is horrible.


    Aren't they carried on opposite sides?
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    ahhh yes....

    the ole "ooops" defense
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    Damn aj, thanks for the update.. that is horrible.


    Aren't they carried on opposite sides?
    Don't they have very, very different safety's? and isn't a taser much lighter than a handgun?
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    Originally Posted by ajdahlheimer View Post
    The report is the female officer accidentally grabbed her gun instead of her taser when the kid tried to flee. Horrible.
    WTF, I can't even imagine that.
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    Don't they have very, very different safety's? and isn't a taser much lighter than a handgun?
    in some cases they are yellow, not sure about there, but I have seen cops wearing yellow tasers
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    in some cases they are yellow, not sure about there, but I have seen cops wearing yellow tasers
    They are always easily distinguishable from a real gun in appearance and I've never held one but I am guessing they would be a lot lighter weight than most service weapons (and carried on the weak side).
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    I don't know what transpired in this case, but cops need to pick their battles better. It was a traffic stop, kid was fleeing yes, but on foot, was probably just scared or going to ditch some party favors. They had his car, his phone, his girlfriend. Pretty sure they would find him easily enough. Same with George Floyd, it was a counterfeit bill FFS, you had all his particulars. Ticket his ass, give him a court date, get him medical if needed, ensure he had a safe ride home and move along.
    2 needless deaths for minor sh!t.
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    I don't know what transpired in this case, but cops need to pick their battles better. It was a traffic stop, kid was fleeing yes, but on foot, was probably just scared or going to ditch some party favors. They had his car, his phone, his girlfriend. Pretty sure they would find him easily enough. Same with George Floyd, it was a counterfeit bill FFS, you had all his particulars. Ticket his ass, give him a court date, get him medical if needed, ensure he had a safe ride home and move along.
    2 needless deaths for minor sh!t.
    Imagine a world where cops did not try to turn every citizen encounter into a drug bust.
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    Imagine a world where cops did not try to turn every citizen encounter into a drug bust.
    No Sh!t eh?


    Here it is. the kid was in his car....




    until I seen this video, I thought he was fleeing on foot.
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    No Sh!t eh?


    Here it is. the kid was in his car....




    until I seen this video, I thought he was fleeing on foot.
    Jeez that’s crazy. Aside from killing the driver, it looked like she barrel swept her partner and the passenger. She had the gun in front of her waving it around for a long time before pulling the trigger. No question on that one, negligent discharge. That’s scary.
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    I don't know what transpired in this case, but cops need to pick their battles better. It was a traffic stop, kid was fleeing yes, but on foot, was probably just scared or going to ditch some party favors. They had his car, his phone, his girlfriend. Pretty sure they would find him easily enough. Same with George Floyd, it was a counterfeit bill FFS, you had all his particulars. Ticket his ass, give him a court date, get him medical if needed, ensure he had a safe ride home and move along.
    2 needless deaths for minor sh!t.
    Did you see the one with the Army Medic? It was actually from December 2020, but I think new footage was released.

    The cops just pepper sprayed him for asking what he did wrong. Watching that vid got me really pissed off and choked up.

    I understand the guy should have just complied with the police instead of asking questions, but my gawd, he was in uniform with his hands in the air FFS.
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    Jeez that’s crazy. Aside from killing the driver, it looked like she barrel swept her partner and the passenger. She had the gun in front of her waving it around for a long time before pulling the trigger. No question on that one, negligent discharge. That’s scary.
    Yeah eh? Rediculous

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    Did you see the one with the Army Medic? It was actually from December 2020, but I think new footage was released.

    The cops just pepper sprayed him for asking what he did wrong. Watching that vid got me really pissed off and choked up.

    I understand the guy should have just complied with the police instead of asking questions, but my gawd, he was in uniform with his hands in the air FFS.

    No i had not seen it, I just googled it... Man lots of quick to act cops out there too many..


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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    Did you see the one with the Army Medic? It was actually from December 2020, but I think new footage was released.

    The cops just pepper sprayed him for asking what he did wrong. Watching that vid got me really pissed off and choked up.

    I understand the guy should have just complied with the police instead of asking questions, but my gawd, he was in uniform with his hands in the air FFS.
    Yeah I saw that on the news and it was horrible. Granted, if I had guns pointed at me I'd get out of the car, but they really didn't have to escalate.
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    The parents of Daunte Wright, a 20-year-old Black man who was shot and killed by a white police officer in a Minneapolis suburb on Sunday, say they "can't accept" the notion that their son's killing was a mistake.


    The parents of Daunte Wright, a 20-year-old Black man who was shot and killed by a white police officer in a Minneapolis suburb on Sunday, said they "can't accept" the notion that their son's killing was "a mistake."

    "I lost my son, he's never coming back," Daunte Wright's father, Aubrey Wright, told ABC News' Robin Roberts in an exclusive interview Tuesday on "Good Morning America."

    "I can't accept that -- a mistake, that doesn't even sound right," he added. "This officer has been on the force for 26 years. I can't accept that."



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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    The parents of Daunte Wright, a 20-year-old Black man who was shot and killed by a white police officer in a Minneapolis suburb on Sunday, say they "can't accept" the notion that their son's killing was a mistake.


    The parents of Daunte Wright, a 20-year-old Black man who was shot and killed by a white police officer in a Minneapolis suburb on Sunday, said they "can't accept" the notion that their son's killing was "a mistake."

    "I lost my son, he's never coming back," Daunte Wright's father, Aubrey Wright, told ABC News' Robin Roberts in an exclusive interview Tuesday on "Good Morning America."

    "I can't accept that -- a mistake, that doesn't even sound right," he added. "This officer has been on the force for 26 years. I can't accept that."



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    While I agree with their sentiment, dude tried to dodge the cops and get back in his car and drive off with them very close to it. Apparently from this Instagram post:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CNlqlzHg...=1a7187k5x1nxh

    The reason he had a warrant out for his arrest is they sent his notices to the wrong address. With all that being said, had he just let them arrest him and figure it out at the station, he would still be alive. This is completely different than the army medic getting abused by that idiotic cop.
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    Did you see the one with the Army Medic? It was actually from December 2020, but I think new footage was released.

    The cops just pepper sprayed him for asking what he did wrong. Watching that vid got me really pissed off and choked up.

    I understand the guy should have just complied with the police instead of asking questions, but my gawd, he was in uniform with his hands in the air FFS.
    Yeah that officer has been fired. You know the situation is dire when the other cop was trying to help to guy and try to deescalate but the cop stops him from helping. This is after he sprayed the guy! Yeah, he should get paid handsomely for that.
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    Why oh why oh why??? I know that cops have a really tough job but can't cooler heads prevail? Abuse by cops are all over the news! Do these people not watch or read the news? I know it's simple to say to just comply to an officer's demand I can absolutely understand why people (specially if you're black) won't want to. I'm not black but have darker skin and have been pulled over by undercover cops and had my car searched for drugs. They asked me to step out of the car, put my hands on the roof of the car, and was patted down. Apparently I fit the description of a latino that was selling drugs around this particular neighborhood. I guess depending on one's disposition a situation like this could've had dire consequences. Again, I fully understand why some people are wary, afraid and non compliant. But what's been happening is so senseless.
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    Why oh why oh why??? I know that cops have a really tough job but can't cooler heads prevail? Abuse by cops are all over the news! Do these people not watch or read the news? I know it's simple to say to just comply to an officer's demand I can absolutely understand why people (specially if you're black) won't want to. I'm not black but have darker skin and have been pulled over by undercover cops and had my car searched for drugs. They asked me to step out of the car, put my hands on the roof of the car, and was patted down. Apparently I fit the description of a latino that was selling drugs around this particular neighborhood. I guess depending on one's disposition a situation like this could've had dire consequences. Again, I fully understand why some people are wary, afraid and non compliant. But what's been happening is so senseless.

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    Is a black man's life only worth something if he is killed by a white person?

    Is his life not worth something if he is killed by another black man?
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Is a black man's life only worth something if he is killed by a white person?

    Is his life not worth something if he is killed by another black man?
    I blame the media for this. Most black people( if not all) know there are major issues within the black community. Me and my family talk about them all the time at family gatherings. The issue is much larger than the community itself can handle. Most don’t have the energy or time to focus on that when they have families or careers.

    Another vicious cycle that is completely understandable is successful black people rarely stay in impoverished, high crime areas. They pursue areas that will offer them and their families the best opportunities. This leaves the high crime, impoverished areas the main causes of black on black crime/homicides.
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    Originally Posted by IH8RICE View Post
    I blame the media for this. Most black people( if not all) know there are major issues within the black community. Me and my family talk about them all the time at family gatherings. The issue is much larger than the community itself can handle. Most don’t have the energy or time to focus on that when they have families or careers.

    Another vicious cycle that is completely understandable is successful black people rarely stay in impoverished, high crime areas. They pursue areas that will offer them and their families the best opportunities. This leaves the high crime, impoverished areas the main causes of black on black crime/homicides.
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    Why oh why oh why??? I know that cops have a really tough job but can't cooler heads prevail? Abuse by cops are all over the news! Do these people not watch or read the news? I know it's simple to say to just comply to an officer's demand I can absolutely understand why people (specially if you're black) won't want to. I'm not black but have darker skin and have been pulled over by undercover cops and had my car searched for drugs. They asked me to step out of the car, put my hands on the roof of the car, and was patted down. Apparently I fit the description of a latino that was selling drugs around this particular neighborhood. I guess depending on one's disposition a situation like this could've had dire consequences. Again, I fully understand why some people are wary, afraid and non compliant. But what's been happening is so senseless.
    You also fit the description of a guy who was minding his own business obeying the law. Imagine how that stop would have went if cops weren't obsessed with making drug busts.
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