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    Missing teeth? Vikings no missing teeth, if so, there is something called rocks and pine sap, U dumb Vanilla Ice fukhead!
    first off, rocks and pine sap? is that how you built your first friend?

    and say what you will aboot Vanilla Ice but he wasn't a halfway bad looking dude so I'll take that as a compliment.
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    but he wasn't a halfway bad looking dude so I'll take that as a compliment.
    You can be good looking all ya want, monster ballz is were it's at, ballz so big they get pissed on, everyone wants to touch, lick and feel them.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    You can be good looking all ya want, monster ballz is were it's at, ballz so big they get pissed on, everyone wants to touch, lick and feel them.

    That is some weird sh!t, good luck with your Fetish goals in 2021











    This should be an interesting week in the trial, more cops on the stand I believe.
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    You can be good looking all ya want, monster ballz is were it's at, ballz so big they get pissed on, everyone wants to touch, lick and feel them.
    Dude what the fck is this fcking gay sh!t?
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    Dude what the fck is this fcking gay sh!t?
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    You must be new here.
    LOL so wait on these threads that I normally just avoid, OV35 member be talking gay sh!t?
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    This should be an interesting week in the trial, more cops on the stand I believe.
    At this point I think the rest of the prosecution is gonna get painfully boring...

    I'm pretty curious what the defense will provide though, and definitely wanna see what Chauvin will say if his lawyer puts him on the stand.
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    Originally Posted by Oceanside View Post
    At this point I think the rest of the prosecution is gonna get painfully boring...

    I'm pretty curious what the defense will provide though, and definitely wanna see what Chauvin will say if his lawyer puts him on the stand.
    True. But, I wonder if the defense would really want him on the stand, as his natural bitch face isn't conducive to his case.
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    The trial is another distraction.

    Don't waste your time on two pieces of $hit.

    George was a POS for putting a gun on the belly of a pregnant woman. (And yes, I agree he did not deserve to be murdered like that.) Now he's a martyr.

    The cop was a POS for murdering George.

    It's that simple.

    There will be riots no matter what the outcome.

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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    True. But, I wonder if the defense would really want him on the stand, as his natural bitch face isn't conducive to his case.
    I'm guessing probably not, but it sure would be entertaining.
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    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post
    The trial is another distraction.

    Don't waste your time on two pieces of $hit.

    George was a POS for putting a gun on the belly of a pregnant woman. (And yes, I agree he did not deserve to be murdered like that.) Now he's a martyr.

    The cop was a POS for murdering George.

    It's that simple.

    There will be riots no matter what the outcome.

    Because that is what oligarchs do: Control the sheeple.
    You may be correct on some points but my issue is a public trial in the street with no public defender so George gets instant death.
    Arrest the dude and sort it out later, plus it doesn't cost the city 27 million.
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    sums it up a thread will start off promising and then turn into name calling..
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    ^^^^^^ informative 7, thanks for posting..

    I found most of yesterdays clips a snooze fest, much like OS predicted.

    Today the judge is supposedly deciding whether Floyds friend will have testify, he was the one in the vehicle with Floyd. Apparently he plead the 5th.
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    Originally Posted by Oceanside View Post
    I'm guessing probably not, but it sure would be entertaining.

    If I was on that jury, with all of these authoritative MPD management witnesses lining up against him, I would want something more than a few lines out of a handbook. I would want to hear him say that he followed the rules as he understood the rules, and how he came to this understanding of those rules. Having a few other MPD officers to say "well I thought that move was approved" (if he can even get any to say that) might not move the needle far enough for him.

    And for better or worse, juries often have a hard time pulling the trigger on police who made mistakes, and I would assume that tendency increases when the officer gives heartfelt testimony. I'm sure Chauvin and his attorneys have had discussions with each other about whether he can express emotions in a way that may move the jury. If he can get up on the stand and cry about how awful he feels because he did every single possible thing he could think of doing to save Floyd's life, etc etc, then that's further reason to testify.
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    It seemed like a decent day for the defense, if I didn't know better I would have thought I was listening to two defense witness's as opposed to two prosecution witness's....

    Hopefully it won't be the bore-fest I predicted and the defense will bring in something interesting soon...

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    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post
    The trial is another distraction.

    Don't waste your time on two pieces of $hit.

    George was a POS for putting a gun on the belly of a pregnant woman. (And yes, I agree he did not deserve to be murdered like that.) Now he's a martyr.

    The cop was a POS for murdering George.

    It's that simple.

    There will be riots no matter what the outcome.

    Because that is what oligarchs do: Control the sheeple.
    I don't give two sh!ts about this trial, they already have an agenda and this sh!t is just being prolonged. The guy killed a low life drug abuser, simple as that. The US system has so many fcking loop holes its a joke.
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    The defense is really pushing this narrative that 38th and Chicago was a warzone. The officers were outnumbered and couldn't start CPR because the scene was so unsafe. It really doesn't add up because you had 3 officers holding down an unresponsive man while 1 officer was on crowd control. The 1 officer seemed to be doing just fine holding back the "hostile" crowd. The scene was so hostile but they never called for more backup?

    I think there are plenty of things the defense can and has been doing to possibly throw doubt out there but I don’t think the out of control crowd defense is a very strong one.
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    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post
    The trial is another distraction.

    Don't waste your time on two pieces of $hit.

    George was a POS for putting a gun on the belly of a pregnant woman. (And yes, I agree he did not deserve to be murdered like that.) Now he's a martyr.

    The cop was a POS for murdering George.

    It's that simple.

    There will be riots no matter what the outcome.

    Because that is what oligarchs do: Control the sheeple.




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    Originally Posted by Oceanside View Post
    It seemed like a decent day for the defense, if I didn't know better I would have thought I was listening to two defense witness's as opposed to two prosecution witness's....

    Hopefully it won't be the bore-fest I predicted and the defense will bring in something interesting soon...

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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    The defense is really pushing this narrative that 38th and Chicago was a warzone.
    That location is about 15 miles north of where I live. It is certainly a warzone NOW (post-riots, violence, looting, mid pandemic, etc.). At the time of the incident, I would just call it a typical rough high crime inner-city area. Nowadays you really can't drive through there unless you want to get carjacked.

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    It seemed like a decent day for the defense, if I didn't know better I would have thought I was listening to two defense witness's as opposed to two prosecution witness's....

    Hopefully it won't be the bore-fest I predicted and the defense will bring in something interesting soon...

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    I just watched some of the testimony from yesterday and it didn’t seem that great for the defense to me. Maybe I missed it. But from what I have seen no witness has yet to offer the opinion that Chauvin applied force safely, reasonably, or in compliance with department policy.
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    I am not keeping up with the trial, but I do read the headlines. I think it will all boil down to the jurors' personal safety concerns. Similar to high profile gang leader trials and drug cartel trials, jurors are human and fear for their and their family's safety. They know that their identities will eventually be made public and that their very lives may be at risk.

    Our nation is so divided with intentional and manufactured hate, I predict a slam-dunk for the prosecution, no matter what the defense brings to the table.
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    What really matters is the fact that he died or was killed while in the custody of people who have sworn to serve and protect the public.
    What’s really scary is these people who are sworn can turn into nazis overnight at the orders of a governor, and many are that stupid enough to obey.

    I saw a pretty scary vid from a church in Canada, and while no violence erupted, the pastor had to yell at a group of police to leave unless they had a warrant, the cops in group all seemed confused and not really sure what to do. I’m sure it was all about silly Covid restrictions too.
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    That location is about 15 miles north of where I live. It is certainly a warzone NOW (post-riots, violence, looting, mid pandemic, etc.). At the time of the incident, I would just call it a typical rough high crime inner-city area. Nowadays you really can't drive through there unless you want to get carjacked.

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    I've been friends with the Lead Forensics person on the stand testifying right now for years. She is one of my sister's lifelong friends. Small world. (Yes, she is very tall).

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    So Chauvin is charged with 2nd Degree Murder Unintentional. To be guilty, the State must prove that Chauvin assaulted George Floyd and that his assaultive actions contributed to Floyd's death.

    Chauvin defends against the assault allegation by arguing that his use of force was protected by the privileges of a peace officer to use violent force against an arrestee. If his actions were excessive, however, then he does not get the benefit of the police privileges protection, and he becomes guilty of assaulting Floyd. If the jury finds his actions were excessive, and if they find those actions helped cause Floyd's death, then he is guilty of 2nd Degree Murder Unintentional.

    As the defense noted in their cross-examination of the use of force expert today, the police privilege to use force on a suspect only applies if, under the totality of the circumstances, they are acting reasonably. The defense attorney himself noted in his cross-examination that reasonableness includes whether the officer is complying with department use of force policies. Among other violations, Chief Arradondo testified that the use of force policy was violated when Chauvin failed to attempt to render any medical aid.

    So Chauvin failed to render medical aid during the arrest --> This violated MPD department use of force policy --> This makes the use of force less reasonable --> If the jury finds overall that the force was unreasonable, then the use of force defense does not apply --> If the use of force defense does not apply while Chauvin is handling Floyd, he becomes guilty of assault.

    Seems pretty clear so far.
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    Pretty cool AJ, to see her in that hoodie, one wouldn't figure her for a scientist lol. A well educated Lady
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    Pretty cool AJ, to see her in that hoodie, one wouldn't figure her for a scientist lol. A well educated Lady
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    Yes, she is very tall.

    Damn.......AJ getting height mogged by a girl.




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