Do different races have different levels of intelligence?

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

This debate was hijacking the Chauvin trial thread so I thought I'd make a new thread.



I think most of the evidence shows that it does. I know people are going to say it's hard to measure intelligence and IQ is flawed. That is a fair point but I also believe IQ is a reasonable estimate, though flawed.

Here's an article about how the NFL uses a different baseline for whites and blacks when testing them for dementia:

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/03/0...rming-lawsuit/

A few questions for people who say no. Why can't white people win gold medals in sprinting competitions and why is the NBA overwhelmingly black? Do you think there are physical differences between races? If yes, you think there are physical differences but not mental differences? Intelligence is an inherited trait. We all aren't born equal. We all can't run the same speed or leap the same distance. We all aren't equally capable of academic success either.

Another question: Do you think the average Japanese man and an Aboriginal Pygmy person have equal intelligence? They are both humans.

The way I look at race is like breeds of dogs. Different breeds of dogs are all the same species and can mate with each other, but there are still significant differences between a Samoyed and a Beagle. Just like people. And certain dogs are more intelligent than others and more capable of being working dogs. Are you going to want to use a German Shepherd or a Bulldog as a police dog?

[ltsOgre]

No because there aren't different species of human. It would be like saying brown dogs of a certain breed are smarter than white dogs of that same breed.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

No because there aren't different species of human.

I already addressed that. Maybe try reading the OP next time.

[NYPat]

Jimmy the Greek, that you?

[PAU1]

Rank them in order and I will try to guess if you ranked from most to least intelligent or from least to most intelligent.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Rank them in order and I will try to guess if you ranked from most to least intelligent or from least to most intelligent.

Ashkenazi Jews
East Asian
White
Sephardi Jews
South Asian
Hispanic (non white)
Black (Sub-Saharan Africa)

[metroins]

Inb4threadlock.

We all know how this ends.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Inb4threadlock.

We all know how this ends.

Hence why the topic almost never gets seriously studied. But clowns and cucks will go on and on about systematic racism. Pretty troubling lack of free thought.

[FChumChum]

The average miscer is def stupider.

[Kraken]

No. After WWII and Vietnam, African blacks’ offspring raised in other countries had higher IQs as a result of being exposed to cultures outside of their own here in America. Proving, once again, it’s all based on education and values in the home.

Before anyone brings up the fallacy of the system, remember that Pacific blacks prosper in America and have a higher IQ as a result of education and family values as well.

If we look at demographics around the world, it doesn’t matter what color skin someone has. The poor suffer the same exactly problems that the poor suffer in the US. You can’t blame the system in every situation, because there will always be poor.

Lastly, remember that the poor here are considered the “1%” compared to the entire world. You can tank capitalism for that. All of that is about to be thrown away by the opinion of those same uneducated groups and white liberals.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

No. After WWII and Vietnam, African blacks’ offspring raised in other countries had higher IQs as a result of being exposed to cultures outside of their own here in America. Proving, once again, it’s all based on education and values in the home.

Before anyone brings up the fallacy of the system, remember that Pacific blacks prosper in America and have a higher IQ as a result of education and family values as well.

If we look at demographics around the world, it doesn’t matter what color skin someone has. The poor suffer the same exactly problems that the poor suffer in the US. You can’t blame the system in every situation, because there will always be poor.

Lastly, remember that the poor here are considered the “1%” compared to the entire world. You can tank capitalism for that. All of that is about to be thrown away by the opinion of those same uneducated groups and white liberals.

Can I get a source on that?

[Kraken]

Can I get a source on that?

If I remember correctly, it was in Intellectuals and Race by economist and professor Thomas Sowell. You can get some basic info from the book here...

https://youtu.be/H6ImP-gJvas

Sowell is brilliant and talks about how each culture makes certain things important. When blacks make abstractions and education important, the disparity in IQs because very small.

I highly suggest his books. He explains A LOT using historical facts about the fallacies that are being pushed today by liberals

[ltsOgre]

I already addressed that. Maybe try reading the OP next time.

Then that's all there is to say.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

If I remember correctly, it was in Intellectuals and Race by economist and professor Thomas Sowell. You can get some basic info from the book here...

https://youtu.be/H6ImP-gJvas

Sowell is brilliant and talks about how each culture makes certain things important. When blacks make abstractions and education important, the disparity in IQs because very small.

Sowell is smart but I disagree with him on a lot. He's a libertarian, I'm a conservative. Nature is overall more important than nurture in my opinion. The Minnesota trans racial adoption study counters his point. It's a shame there aren't more studies because the topic is obviously taboo.

Liberia has the same exact Constitution as America.

[nettripper]

Lol we are all the same....

[Kraken]

Sowell is smart but I disagree with him on a lot. He's a libertarian, I'm a conservative. Nature is overall more important than nurture in my opinion. The Minnesota trans racial adoption study counters his point. It's a shame there aren't more studies because the topic is obviously taboo.

Liberia has the same exact Constitution as America.

Sowell is a classical liberal who believes in natural processes. Where did you get the idea that he doesn’t?

You disagree with facts that show when blacks are raised by white families, their IQs are higher? And that in a single generation, IQs can go up by several points? Every generation raised by the next can continue increasing IQ as shown around the world with all races and cultures. You’ll have to be more specific on what you disagree with.

https://youtu.be/Fwn1TfFmLUk

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Sowell is a classical liberal who believes in natural processes. Where did you get the idea that he doesn’t?

You disagree with facts that show when blacks are raised by white families, their IQs are higher? And that in a single generation, IQs can go up by several points? Every generation raised by the next can continue increasing IQ as shown around the world with all races and cultures. You’ll have to be more specific on what you disagree with.

https://youtu.be/Fwn1TfFmLUk

This showed the opposite:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnes...Adoption_Study

Blacks adopted and raised by well off white families had a similar IQ to the average black person.

[Kraken]

This showed the opposite:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnes...Adoption_Study

Blacks adopted and raised by well off white families had a similar IQ to the average black person.

That’s exactly what Sowell was saying was wrong and the data he found disproves that study.

[Kraken]

This showed the opposite:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnes...Adoption_Study

Blacks adopted and raised by well off white families had a similar IQ to the average black person.

“One of the problems of this is that it eternalizes a set of circumstances that exists at that moment” and, in a place.

[JaegerBrah]

Yes but if we're only going by race and not environment, the differences are miniscule at best. Jews and Asian's seem to be the most intelligent.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Yes but if we're only going by race and not environment, the differences are miniscule at best. Jews and Asian's seem to be the most intelligent.

The difference between Africa and Europe is minuscule?

[Beast92]

Yes but u cant point it out or liberals will call u a racist

[Judgment]

I don’t think it would be much different if equity in opportunity was a thing. But being that America comes from several different backgrounds, with many different types of lifestyles, I do believe that there’s no way there couldn’t be hierarchies when it comes to IQ.

In laymen’s terms, different opportunities have created different results. So it’s inevitable that situations cultivated different results. Of course if we’re talking overall, and not fringe differences.

[otisthebat]

Inb4threadlock.

We all know how this ends.

Lol no. Race threads used to get locked and the OP got banned. But that was the old days.

[JaegerBrah]

The difference between Africa and Europe is minuscule?

If the environment they were raised in and everything else is equal, except their race, then yes.

[LoLBrah69]

There are only 3 races you buffoon.
Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid.

Indians are Caucasoid.
Jews are Caucasoid.


OP switches back and forth between scientific definition of race and societal definition of race.
OP is fundamentally flawed.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

If the environment they were raised in and everything else is equal, except their race, then yes.

Then why does Africa suck?

[squanto]

Hence why the topic almost never gets seriously studied. But clowns and cucks will go on and on about systematic racism. Pretty troubling lack of free thought.

I'm curious as to what studies you would like to see more of...

[Judgment]

Then why does Africa suck?

Poor history.

History of many different factions committing genocide to rise to power. A lot of their people sold their own to Europeans for slavery. It created centuries of chaos like ripples in water. And now everybody from the outside wants to control Africa because it is so rich in everything from precious metals to materials everyone needs for lithium ion batteries, etc.

He’s not wrong. If all things were equal (obviously a hypothetical as this will never be the case), then the outcome would be vastly different in that we might all be closer than today.

Honestly it’s a question that could never be answered due to different histories.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

I'm curious as to what studies you would like to see more of...

Black IQ being tested in "good" environments. Anything that attempts to address if race and intelligence are linked.