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    How on earth is Erin Rodgers a top 10 QB oif all time when................ (srs)

    he is utter GARBAGE in the playoffs.

    Minus his 4 wins onto his one super bowl victory, Erin is 7-9. (11-9 all time in the playoffs)

    7 of those wins include:
    -Referees missing the Dez Bryant Catch
    -Beating Joe Webb as starter (Webb went 11-30, 180 yards, 1 td, 1 INT)
    -Beating Kirk Cousins and the redskins LOL
    -Beating Dak Prescott LOL
    -Beating Jared Goff (with 4 screws in his throwing hand) LOL

    His super bowl run wasn't even impressive outside the super bowl (srs)
    -Beat Mike Vick and the Eagles
    -Beat Caleb Haine & the bears
    -Matt Ryan and the Falcons
    -Beat the Steelers which was impressive, I'll give him that.


    His notable loses?
    -Losing to Colin Kapernick TWICE LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    -Losing to Jimmy G lmaoooooooooooooooo


    He's been destroyed by any top tier QB he's ever faced in the playoffs, Eli Manning, Kurt Warner, Russ Wilson, Carson palmer, Tom Brady, etc.

    He even lost to Matt Ryan again a team Brady eventually destroyed in the super bowl.

    How can he even be considered a top 10 QB of all time?

    1-4 in NFC Championship games.
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    Imagine thinking this is a top QB of all time:









    Wide Open field.

    I thought the reason Erin Cuckger fans thought he was the bets QB in the league is because of his mobility? Why throw in double coverage when you can easily run it in for a TD?


    Poor decision making.
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    Personal NFL top 10 QB rankings:

    1.) Brady
    2.) Joe Montana
    3.) Peyton Manning
    5.) Steve Young
    6.) John Elway
    7.) Troy Aikman
    8.) Marino
    9.) Farve
    10.) Brees

    Rodgers at 11?

    Thoughts?
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    Aikman above Marino?? Wtf
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    Personal NFL top 10 QB rankings:

    1.) Brady
    2.) Joe Montana
    3.) Peyton Manning
    5.) Steve Young
    6.) John Elway
    7.) Troy Aikman
    8.) Marino
    9.) Farve
    10.) Brees

    Rodgers at 11?

    Thoughts?
    I don't see how you can have Steve Young at 5 and Rodgers at 11. They are essentially the same player.
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    Originally Posted by SmashinYoungVag View Post
    Aikman above Marino?? Wtf
    Switch Marino and Aikman then.

    I think it's a pretty decent list.

    Originally Posted by dyee4613 View Post
    I don't see how you can have Steve Young at 5 and Rodgers at 11. They are essentially the same player.

    Steve has 3 super bowls, 1 super bowl MVP, 15-8 recond in the playoffs, 2 league MVP's in a 10 year shorten NFL career.

    While Rodgers only has 1 more MVP then Young in 16 NFL seasons.

    Completely different players.

    Steve Young never choked in big NFL games.
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    He's one of the most accurate QB's in the league, and stats wise GOAT status. If you take him and stick him on those other QB's team they are the same or even better. It's a hard argument to make.

    Rodgers has never been given the full supporting cast he needs like other teams get. But from an All-Time perspective, he's top 10 for sure, if maybe Number 10. It's always difficult to compare Rodgers to an older player because if you take current Rodgers and put him on an older team, they will probably dominate, different style of play.

    It's really hard since there's so many great QB's like you listed.
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    Personal NFL top 10 QB rankings:

    1.) Brady
    2.) Joe Montana
    3.) Peyton Manning
    5.) Steve Young
    6.) John Elway
    7.) Troy Aikman
    8.) Marino
    9.) Farve
    10.) Brees

    Rodgers at 11?

    Thoughts?
    Mmmm I can see him and Brees fighting for that #10 spot tbh, although Rodgers did have the more impressive SB year
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    Steve has 3 super bowls, 1 super bowl MVP, 15-8 recond in the playoffs, 2 league MVP's in a 10 year shorten NFL career.

    While Rodgers only has 1 more MVP then Young in 16 NFL seasons.

    Completely different players.

    Steve Young never choked in big NFL games.
    Let's pull out the Montana SBs that Young was a backup qb and he is 8-6 with 1 SB.
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    Originally Posted by dyee4613 View Post
    Let's pull out the Montana SBs that Young was a backup qb and he is 8-6 with 1 SB.
    And he threw 6 tds in that mfer
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    he’s more of a talent GOAT qb to me basically like Marino.

    not the resume to put them at 1 but easily top 3 most talented ever.
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    Rodgers put up 45 points on the road in his first ever playoff game... and still lost.

    Rodgers career is marked by dragging undeserving teams farther than they ever should have gone. Look at how the packers did when he missed long periods with clavicle fractures... they went from contenders to arguably the worst team in the league.

    Very few playoff losses can be put on Rodgers if you look at each one. Meanwhile, Brady was literally dragged to multiple super bowl victories. He threw 3 second half ints this year in the nfc championship and his dominant defense still bailed him out.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    Rodgers put up 45 points on the road in his first ever playoff game... and still lost.

    Rodgers career is marked by dragging undeserving teams farther than they ever should have gone. Look at how the packers did when he missed long periods with clavicle fractures... they went from contenders to arguably the worst team in the league.

    Very few playoff losses can be put on Rodgers if you look at each one. Meanwhile, Brady was literally dragged to multiple super bowl victories. He threw 3 second half ints this year in the nfc championship and his dominant defense still bailed him out.
    Lol.

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    He's one of the most accurate QB's in the league, and stats wise GOAT status. If you take him and stick him on those other QB's team they are the same or even better. It's a hard argument to make.

    Rodgers has never been given the full supporting cast he needs like other teams get. But from an All-Time perspective, he's top 10 for sure, if maybe Number 10. It's always difficult to compare Rodgers to an older player because if you take current Rodgers and put him on an older team, they will probably dominate, different style of play.

    It's really hard since there's so many great QB's like you listed.
    No team led by Manning or Brady gets better with the addition of Erin Rodgers

    He’s a front running stat padder.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    Rodgers put up 45 points on the road in his first ever playoff game... and still lost.

    Rodgers career is marked by dragging undeserving teams farther than they ever should have gone. Look at how the packers did when he missed long periods with clavicle fractures... they went from contenders to arguably the worst team in the league.

    Very few playoff losses can be put on Rodgers if you look at each one. Meanwhile, Brady was literally dragged to multiple super bowl victories. He threw 3 second half ints this year in the nfc championship and his dominant defense still bailed him out.
    Go through it year by year and the story is the same. He doesn't show up against the NFC West.

    09 - He went off and the defense let him down.
    10 - He was pretty good. His defense saved him against the Bears, though.
    11 - This one was on him. He had one of the best years of all-time and laid an egg against the Giants
    12 - This one was both him and his defense. He was meh but Kaep shredded the Packers defense.
    13 - On him. He was bad.
    14 - All-time choke job by the Packers. He was bad.
    15 - He was meh.
    16 - Not on him. Falcon's offense was elite. He was outplayed, though
    19- everyone on the team was thoroughly outplayed, him included
    20 - Kinda on him
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    Originally Posted by dyee4613 View Post
    Go through it year by year and the story is the same. He doesn't show up against the NFC West.

    09 - He went off and the defense let him down.
    10 - He was pretty good. His defense saved him against the Bears, though.
    11 - This one was on him. He had one of the best years of all-time and laid an egg against the Giants
    12 - This one was both him and his defense. He was meh but Kaep shredded the Packers defense.
    13 - On him. He was bad.
    14 - All-time choke job by the Packers. He was bad.
    15 - He was meh.
    16 - Not on him. Falcon's offense was elite. He was outplayed, though
    19- everyone on the team was thoroughly outplayed, him included
    20 - Kinda on him
    How many times has Rodgers lost in the playoffs when his team was favored? I can think of 1 or 2.

    Looking back at most losses, it’s the packers defense giving up 30+ points against teams with elite defenses (think prime Seahawks, niners, giants). There was a year that Rodgers missed 2 months with a broken clavicle, came back and beat the bears in the last game to make the playoffs, then lost a close game to a far superior niners team. He took a team whose starting WRs were Aberderis and Janis, two guys with less than 1000 career receiving yards, to OT against afar superior AZ team and lost. 3 of the 4 times he’s taken his team to OT, his defense fails and he never gets a possession. The one time he did was his first playoff game where he put up 45 points....

    Again, even in the games where he played meh, like in the Seattle nfc championship, he still had a 19-7 lead with 5 minutes left... his defense epically failed him.

    A few years the packers had the injury bug. One year they played a d lineman at o line because they had no healthy bodies. They played their 6th string cb on Julio Jones because they had lost all others. The list goes on. We can go game by game if you’d like.

    Put Brady on Rodgers team and his career would have ended a long time ago. Put Rodgers or machines on tb this year and let Brady run for his life against Tampa’s defense and Brady loses those games. It’s not even in question.
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    Originally Posted by SmashinYoungVag View Post
    Aikman above Marino?? Wtf
    This

    Hard to take the post seriously after seeing he puts fukkin Aikman in his top 10

    Aikman for his career -
    32,942yds
    165 TD
    141 INT
    94-71 record

    To compare

    Joe Flacco
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    224 TDs
    144 INTs
    98-77 record

    And if you gonna argue MuH RaNgS! then where is Bradshaw?
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    How many times has Rodgers lost in the playoffs when his team was favored? I can think of 1 or 2.

    Looking back at most losses, it’s the packers defense giving up 30+ points against teams with elite defenses (think prime Seahawks, niners, giants). There was a year that Rodgers missed 2 months with a broken clavicle, came back and beat the bears in the last game to make the playoffs, then lost a close game to a far superior niners team. He took a team whose starting WRs were Aberderis and Janis, two guys with less than 1000 career receiving yards, to OT against afar superior AZ team and lost. 3 of the 4 times he’s taken his team to OT, his defense fails and he never gets a possession. The one time he did was his first playoff game where he put up 45 points....
    Okay. I listed the games that I thought were on him. Out of those games, which do you think I was unreasonable about? I won't argue that his team let him down a lot but he was pretty bad for all the playoff losses from 11 to 15. I don't think the Cardinals game where he went crazy and his defense let him down is the norm. The Packers are a team that tends to give up as a whole when they're facing a superior team and everyone gets outplayed.
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    Originally Posted by thedarrenestes View Post
    This

    Hard to take the post seriously after seeing he puts fukkin Aikman in his top 10

    Aikman for his career -
    32,942yds
    165 TD
    141 INT
    94-71 record

    To compare

    Joe Flacco
    40,931 yds
    224 TDs
    144 INTs
    98-77 record

    And if you gonna argue MuH RaNgS! then where is Bradshaw?
    Holy chit that's eye opening. And other than one magical playoff run, strongly aided by Bolden and Torrey Smith, Flacco pretty much was an average qb.
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    Originally Posted by thedarrenestes View Post
    This

    Hard to take the post seriously after seeing he puts fukkin Aikman in his top 10

    Aikman for his career -
    32,942yds
    165 TD
    141 INT
    94-71 record

    To compare

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    40,931 yds
    224 TDs
    144 INTs
    98-77 record

    And if you gonna argue MuH RaNgS! then where is Bradshaw?
    Ya you're definitely not going to take into account the 20 years difference when they played. EVen when Chad Johnson played in the 2000's he said that today's game is different than the game he was playing. ANd compared to the 90's today's game is completely different.

    You can do this with almost every single sport. Find HOF player stats from the NBA and compare them to decent players in today's game and the HOF's stats would look like trash.


    Walt Frazier best year as a knick:
    21.1 ppg
    7.3 reb
    5.9 assists


    Trea Young:
    25.7 ppg
    4.0 reb
    9.5 assists


    Vucevic:
    24.5 ppg
    11.7 reb
    3.8 assists

    Hell even players like Jaylen Brown, Colin Sexton, Shai, Juluis Randle, and Grant are having better statistical season THIS year alone then in Walt Frazier's best statistical year. Does this mena all of them are HOF players and above Walt Frazier's HOF status? fuk no


    You have to be bloody autistic to not take this into account in any of your analysis. But judging that you watch NASCAR you also probably like to **** your cousins you autistic phaggit.


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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Holy chit that's eye opening. And other than one magical playoff run, strongly aided by Bolden and Torrey Smith, Flacco pretty much was an average qb.

    Look another mentally challenged retard that's doesn't have any critical thinking skills.
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    Ya you're definitely not going to take into account the 20 years difference when they played. EVen when Chad Johnson played in the 2000's he said that today's game is different than the game he was playing. ANd compared to the 90's today's game is completely different.

    You can do this with almost every single sport. Find HOF player stats from the NBA and compare them to decent players in today's game and the HOF's stats would look like trash.


    Walt Frazier best year as a knick:
    21.1 ppg
    7.3 reb
    5.9 assists


    Trea Young:
    25.7 ppg
    4.0 reb
    9.5 assists


    Vucevic:
    24.5 ppg
    11.7 reb
    3.8 assists

    Hell even players like Jaylen Brown, Colin Sexton, Shai, Juluis Randle, and Grant are having better statistical season THIS year alone then in Walt Frazier's best statistical year. Does this mena all of them are HOF players and above Walt Frazier's HOF status? fuk no


    You have to be bloody autistic to not take this into account in any of your analysis. But judging that you watch NASCAR you also probably like to **** your cousins you autistic phaggit.


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    Look another mentally challenged retard that's doesn't have any critical thinking skills.
    Troy aikman doesn’t have 1 first team all pro. Not one. And that’s while playing for the most popular team. With an all time great supporting cast.

    Was he even a top 5 qb of the 90s? Marino Favre young elway Kelly moon?
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    Reeeeee.
    Holy chit you have totally derailed

    Bruh u have Aikman as your 7th best qb of all time
    All time...
    Think about that logically

    The fact you’re trying to defend it with irrelevant random ass NBA stats shows how fukkin stupid that is

    I’d suggest you stay low for awhile and stop bumping this thread but hey your call
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    Its a tough one....

    He beats Tom Brady statistically in every category for post season;

    QBR - Rodgers 100.5, Brady 90.4
    Yards per attempt - Rodgers 7.6, Brady 7.1
    TD/INT - Rodgers 3.46, Brady 2.18
    Completion % - Rodgers 64.6, Brady 62.7


    Its hard to see how much of his poor record is his fault and what is a poor roster. The eyes tell me he doesnt get it done but the stats make him look great still. I want to say he takes too many sacks (2.45 per playoff game, vs 1.6 for Brady) but there has to be more to it.


    Just off of 1 Super Bowl, overall stats, records and body of work he fits in that 5-10 all time range for me. Probably 5-7 in reality, his efficiency stats are crazy
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    Also I think Rodgers looks bad because his career has coincided with the latter part of the GOAT's

    Rodgers 11-9 post season record (0.55) is ahead of Peyton, Marino, Favre and Brees from your list



    Thinking about it, the only thing Brees has over Rodgers is longevity records.
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    Personal NFL top 10 QB rankings:

    1.) Brady
    2.) Joe Montana
    3.) Peyton Manning
    5.) Steve Young
    6.) John Elway
    7.) Troy Aikman
    8.) Marino
    9.) Farve
    10.) Brees

    Rodgers at 11?

    Thoughts?
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    Holy **** this list is ****ing horrible, man.
    Yeah Brees could probably be at 11 tbh
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Its a tough one....

    He beats Tom Brady statistically in every category for post season
    Yeah man, Rodgers has just as many NFC conference wins as Brady,

    Clearly on the same level.








    Not srs A Aron has let down after let down in the post season.

    Honestly who Fing cares about YPA and QBR when you can’t win the game.

    Last season was same story different day, it was his game to win and he blew it.
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    Originally Posted by Belome View Post
    Yeah man, Rodgers has just as many NFC conference wins as Brady,

    Clearly on the same level.








    Not srs A Aron has let down after let down in the post season.

    Honestly who Fing cares about YPA and QBR when you can’t win the game.

    Last season was same story different day, it was his game to win and he blew it.
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    Originally Posted by Belome View Post
    Yeah man, Rodgers has just as many NFC conference wins as Brady,

    Clearly on the same level.








    Not srs A Aron has let down after let down in the post season.

    Honestly who Fing cares about YPA and QBR when you can’t win the game.

    Last season was same story different day, it was his game to win and he blew it.
    100% I agree with you, its always felt like Rodgers has thrown up "empty" stats.

    At the same time, to hit those kind of levels of personal production you have to be pretty great.
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    Also I believe Rodgers still has a lot to give, he's only 37 and only had 13 seasons as a starter



    when you compare Rodgers having won 11 playoff games in 13 years, to Brees winning 9 in 19 years - Brees doesnt come out looking good
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