Homemade Pre-Workout--Any Other Ingredients?

[bLinkMoore]

Finally hopping on the homemade preworkout train, was wondering if there are any other supplements worth adding in. So far I've got:

Beta alanine
Caffeine
Citrulline malate

Obviously these are kind of the big three when it comes to preworkout ingredients, and I wanted to keep it relatively simple, but am also totally open to other ideas. They're stupid cheap to buy in bulk, so I'm not terribly concerned with that side of things. Plus I figured it's kind of a fun project, so what the hell.
Was thinking about some form of beet powder, since it's shown promising results in endurance activities, but wasn't sure if that would be kind of redundant since b-alanine does basically the same thing. Maybe b-alanine on lifting days, beet powder on running days? Lmk.

Any suggestions very much welcome!

[eatyourspinach]

citrulline is easier to dose than CM, betaine anhydrous is worth adding IMO, beet root is supposed to help with increasing nitric oxide levels where beta alanine increases carnosine which is supposed to decrease acid buildup and supposed to be saturated so not necessarily the same thing.

[ManwittaPlan]

Finally hopping on the homemade preworkout train, was wondering if there are any other supplements worth adding in. So far I've got:

Beta alanine
Caffeine
Citrulline malate

Obviously these are kind of the big three when it comes to preworkout ingredients, and I wanted to keep it relatively simple, but am also totally open to other ideas. They're stupid cheap to buy in bulk, so I'm not terribly concerned with that side of things. Plus I figured it's kind of a fun project, so what the hell.
Was thinking about some form of beet powder, since it's shown promising results in endurance activities, but wasn't sure if that would be kind of redundant since b-alanine does basically the same thing. Maybe b-alanine on lifting days, beet powder on running days? Lmk.

Any suggestions very much welcome!

What eatyourspinach listed is solid.

If you’re a bit more inclined I’m a fan of alcar on an empty stomach in the morning. I like 3 grams but it would be wise to start lower just in case your bowels disagree.

[lucia316]

citrulline is easier to dose than CM, betaine anhydrous is worth adding IMO, beet root is supposed to help with increasing nitric oxide levels where beta alanine increases carnosine which is supposed to decrease acid buildup and supposed to be saturated so not necessarily the same thing.

This. Would cut BA unless you're training >2.5 to 3 hours per day or multiple times per day. Timing isn't relevant, so you could take it whenever. Would add betaine in place of BA.

[bsmit107]

500mg-1g Agmatine Sulfate -N.O Production, pump, focus. Mild nootropic
5g Creatine Mono -Super cheap, effective for pumps and mild strength gain
1g Taurine -Aids against muscle cramps and blood flow
Yohimbe/Yohimbine HCL - Aids in the utilization of fat for energy, focus, libido. Do your research....anxiety and elevated heart rate are common side effects.

BCAA's & Glutamine are other good additions.

[TheFugitive]

Why would anyone make a homemade preworkout. The market is saturated with something for everyone

It's like brewing beer in your garage and hoping for the best

[keyboardworkout]

Maybe taurine and L-theanine. I like both with caffeine.

[Bigdumogre]

Semen is the big thing now. YouTube it I’m not wrong

[AMeyer9]

Why would anyone make a homemade preworkout. The market is saturated with something for everyone

It's like brewing beer in your garage and hoping for the best

Because they don't want pixie-dusted bull**** from BPI.

[PaulRomasco]

14g Xtend (7g BCAA, glutamine, mostly flavoring)
5-10g PeptoPro (if fasted)
6-8gm Citrulline Malate
8g CT Brainwash
2.5-4g Betaine
3.2 Beta Alanine
3g Creatine
3g Hydromax
1.5G Sodium Nitrate
1.5 Nitrosigine
1-1.5g Agmatine
1g Taurine
150g caffeine (on top of the 150 in Brainwash)
100-200mg Norvaline

And then I cycle things like Spirulina, Rhodiola, hordenine, synephrine

Costs more upfront but ends up being less than $2 a serving and takes 5 minutes to make a weeks worth. I’m crazy, I know.

[eatyourspinach]

14g Xtend (7g BCAA, glutamine, mostly flavoring)
5-10g PeptoPro (if fasted)
6-8gm Citrulline Malate
8g CT Brainwash
2.5-4g Betaine
3.2 Beta Alanine
3g Creatine
3g Hydromax
1.5G Sodium Nitrate
1.5 Nitrosigine
1-1.5g Agmatine
1g Taurine
150g caffeine (on top of the 150 in Brainwash)
100-200mg Norvaline

And then I cycle things like Spirulina, Rhodiola, hordenine, synephrine

Costs more upfront but ends up being less than $2 a serving and takes 5 minutes to make a weeks worth. I’m crazy, I know.

norvaline is useless

[bLinkMoore]

Why would anyone make a homemade preworkout. The market is saturated with something for everyone

It's like brewing beer in your garage and hoping for the best

Because it's significantly more cost-effective if you do it right, and it's fun. Literally the same reason people brew beer in their garages lmao not sure what your point was with that analogy

[bLinkMoore]

This. Would cut BA unless you're training >2.5 to 3 hours per day or multiple times per day. Timing isn't relevant, so you could take it whenever. Would add betaine in place of BA.

Interesting, I hadn't realized BA is that worthless for general workouts. Just read up a bit more on it and sure enough.
Any thoughts on why it's become such a staple in like every preworkout out there? Just a combination of people liking that they can "feel it working"(the paresthesia) and an easy way for them to justify charging more probably?

[bLinkMoore]

Semen is the big thing now. YouTube it I’m not wrong

RIP Connor Murphy. Dude went off the deep end in a big way

[bLinkMoore]

Maybe taurine and L-theanine. I like both with caffeine.

Might add the l-theanine, have heard good things anecdotally. Definitely gonna read up on it more.

Why the taurine? I don't know much about it, but I thought it was pretty much another anti-fatigue thing

[Alexander1438]

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[lucia316]

Interesting, I hadn't realized BA is that worthless for general workouts. Just read up a bit more on it and sure enough.
Any thoughts on why it's become such a staple in like every preworkout out there? Just a combination of people liking that they can "feel it working"(the paresthesia) and an easy way for them to justify charging more probably?

Correct. They use it because of the paresthesia. That way the ignorant consumer feels something acute and gets it in their head that "ITS WORKING...RAWR!"

[bLinkMoore]

Correct. They use it because of the paresthesia. That way the ignorant consumer feels something acute and gets it in their head that "ITS WORKING...RAWR!"

Interesting. Would be intrigued to see to what extent there's an actual performance boost in new users taking BA just based on that--I know when I was in high school, that feeling always got my friends and I jacked up and ready to go.

[TheFugitive]

Because it's significantly more cost-effective if you do it right, and it's fun. Literally the same reason people brew beer in their garages lmao not sure what your point was with that analogy

Have fun flavoring those ingredients

[bLinkMoore]

Have fun flavoring those ingredients

Trying out Mio drops / Gatorade zero powder. Already on it and coping just fine, thank you though

[lucia316]

Interesting. Would be intrigued to see to what extent there's an actual performance boost in new users taking BA just based on that--I know when I was in high school, that feeling always got my friends and I jacked up and ready to go.

Absolutely. Placebo can be powerful. Is it ergogenic? No, but if you don't know and it creates a frame of mind, then great. Unfortunately, that goes away when you know better.

[bLinkMoore]

Absolutely. Placebo can be powerful. Is it ergogenic? No, but if you don't know and it creates a frame of mind, then great. Unfortunately, that goes away when you know better.

Yeah, damn you for enlightening me I could've gone months more in blissful ignorance, now I have to rethink my preworkout mix