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    Rouseys comeback fight vs Nunes, in hindsight how dumb was this?

    So you got Rousey who was one of the biggest attractions and a crossover star, coming in off a bad ko loss and a long layoff, mind full of demons, and who do they put her straight in with?

    Now you may say sell nobody knew Nunes was that good back then, but the thing is, it's the matchmakers job to know.

    Rondas first few fights back should have been creampuffs and girls who were weak to her style,. I think they left a lot of money on the table when it came to RR and I say that as someone who was not a fan of hers. It was bad business by the UFC.
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    Originally Posted by stayhomeneet View Post
    So you got Rousey who was one of the biggest attractions and a crossover star, coming in off a bad ko loss and a long layoff, mind full of demons, and who do they put her straight in with?

    Now you may say sell nobody knew Nunes was that good back then, but the thing is, it's the matchmakers job to know.

    Rondas first few fights back should have been creampuffs and girls who were weak to her style,. I think they left a lot of money on the table when it came to RR and I say that as someone who was not a fan of hers. It was bad business by the UFC.
    I agree, and because of that, they lost a lot and is being taken over by other promotions.
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    The UFC brass legit thought Ronda would win easily.
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    Originally Posted by mp83 View Post
    The UFC brass legit thought Ronda would win easily.
    This right here. The fight was shortly after Zuffa sold the UFC. The new owners didn't have a clue what they were doing.
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    UFC doesn't give easy fights to anyone once they've made a name for themself

    It's a terrible model if you're a fighter but it's great for the UFC's profits

    They feed any and everyone to the dogs by putting them in the biggest fights that can possibly be made, always

    They could give a fuk less where you're at in your career if they can capitalize off your name
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    Yeah they should have had her fight Miesha Tate again

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    Originally Posted by DefaultMode View Post
    UFC doesn't give easy fights to anyone once they've made a name for themself

    It's a terrible model if you're a fighter but it's great for the UFC's profits

    They feed any and everyone to the dogs by putting them in the biggest fights that can possibly be made, always

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    I called it back then that it was a terrible matchup for Ronda, but a lot of people didn't really know how good Nunes was. Amanda had just beat the crap out of Meisha so bad she wanted to retire and said she'd never been hit that hard before.

    Ronda should've fought Pena for a comeback fight. Pena fights like a dumb brawler and I think Ronda could've caught her in a submission. Ronda actually could've rematched Holly with a better gameplan than moving forward running into punches like a retard.
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    Originally Posted by stayhomeneet View Post
    So you got Rousey who was one of the biggest attractions and a crossover star, coming in off a bad ko loss and a long layoff, mind full of demons, and who do they put her straight in with?

    Now you may say sell nobody knew Nunes was that good back then, but the thing is, it's the matchmakers job to know.

    Rondas first few fights back should have been creampuffs and girls who were weak to her style,. I think they left a lot of money on the table when it came to RR and I say that as someone who was not a fan of hers. It was bad business by the UFC.
    Ronda Rousey was a legit star back in the day bringing in some massive PPV numbers and money for the UFC.

    Before Rousey, Nunes beat Shevchenko and absolutely demolished Miesha Tate. It wasn't exactly a secret that Nunes was legit and that Rousey was a terrible striker. I think many people knew at the time Nunes would whoop that ass.

    In hindsight, perhaps yeah, maybe a rematch with Holm? Miesha Tate? But honestly the game kinda passed her by at this point although I still think she'd be top 5, but that's moreso a testament to how weak 135 is. Women now are better at grappling and can defend an armbar (lol) as opposed to 10 years ago. They are also better at striking and Rousey got exposed. They probably could have milked Rousey for 1 or 2 more fights but her reign at the top was clearly over. Also lol @ Rousey not doing press events.
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    Joe Rogan's non stop hyperbole when they were really gassing her up was absolutely nauseating...

    "Ronda isn't just one of those special once in a generation type athletes. She's a once in human history, a once in the universe type of athlete. She is the greatest women's mma fighter and possibly just the greatest mma fighter of all time period"

    Imagine saying that about a one trick pony who can't even throw (much less take) a proper punch.






    So satisfying.
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    What's crazy in hindsight is the run Ronda went on knowing what we know now about her weaknesses.

    Just goes to show you how much of the game is mental + how her competition did not have the ability whatsoever to deal with Olympic level judo.

    I thought she started to look small for the weight class her last few fights too.
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    Originally Posted by skinnyfat88 View Post
    What's crazy in hindsight is the run Ronda went on knowing what we know now about her weaknesses.

    Just goes to show you how much of the game is mental + how her competition did not have the ability whatsoever to deal with Olympic level judo.

    I thought she started to look small for the weight class her last few fights too.
    She really bought into her own hype. Remember how she was going to kick Floyd Mayweather's ass?

    Brb Can't throw a basic punch without looking like a 12 year old spastic girl.

    Brb Going to beat up an undefeated world champion boxer.
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    Originally Posted by mp83 View Post
    The UFC brass legit thought Ronda would win easily.
    This.

    It was honestly one of the funniest miscalculations on their part. Ronda lost and the UFC said damn... Holly must have just been the stylistic problem. So when Nunes became champ they thought it was THE opportunity to bring Ronda back. Wouldn't have to face Holly and they could get her to be the champion and thus money making machine she previously was. They didn't know what they had in Nunes and it backfired in ... well... Rondas face... over and over.

    Originally Posted by skinnyfat88 View Post
    What's crazy in hindsight is the run Ronda went on knowing what we know now about her weaknesses.

    Just goes to show you how much of the game is mental + how her competition did not have the ability whatsoever to deal with Olympic level judo.

    I thought she started to look small for the weight class her last few fights too.
    Ronda was to women's MMA what guys like Chuck Liddell, Rich Franklin, etc. were to men's MMA. Fighters who had talent and all, but were slightly ahead of their time and benefitted from other fighters lack of talent, well roundedness, etc. Its just the progression of the sport, and the athletes.
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    Originally Posted by JoeDelts View Post
    Joe Rogan's non stop hyperbole when they were really gassing her up was absolutely nauseating...

    "Ronda isn't just one of those special once in a generation type athletes. She's a once in human history, a once in the universe type of athlete. She is the greatest women's mma fighter and possibly just the greatest mma fighter of all time period"

    Imagine saying that about a one trick pony who can't even throw (much less take) a proper punch.






    So satisfying.
    was not even the worst thing Rogan said sadly

    think he mentioned how Ronda could actually compete with some male bantamweights
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    Originally Posted by JoeDelts View Post
    Joe Rogan's non stop hyperbole when they were really gassing her up was absolutely nauseating...

    "Ronda isn't just one of those special once in a generation type athletes. She's a once in human history, a once in the universe type of athlete. She is the greatest women's mma fighter and possibly just the greatest mma fighter of all time period"

    Imagine saying that about a one trick pony who can't even throw (much less take) a proper punch.






    So satisfying.

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    Thank you - repped

    Here, Joe is crying talking to ronda because she's so amazing in his eyes
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    This was probably after her 14 second submission. That was when they ramped the hype train to ridiculous levels and her ego inflated to equally stupid levels.
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    Originally Posted by JoeDelts View Post


    This was probably after her 14 second submission. That was when they ramped the hype train to ridiculous levels and her ego inflated to equally stupid levels.
    IMO Ronda's hype peaked after she KO'd Bethe. That's when she and her fans were convinced she was a striking goddess and would never lose.
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    Originally Posted by 6-SPEED View Post
    IMO Ronda's hype peaked after she KO'd Bethe. That's when she and her fans were convinced she was a striking goddess and would never lose.
    You're probably right. I don't remember exactly when it happened tbh. I just remember she was suddenly a household name, appearing on talk shows and stuff and they'd always bring up that 14 second arm bar.
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    Ronda was to women's MMA what guys like Chuck Liddell, Rich Franklin, etc. were to men's MMA. Fighters who had talent and all, but were slightly ahead of their time and benefitted from other fighters lack of talent, well roundedness, etc. Its just the progression of the sport, and the athletes.
    Your criticism of Chuck and Rich is wrong because it would also apply to Anderson Silva. They were much better than what you give them credit for.

    They did benefit from top talent being split between the UFC and Pride. Even then, their opponents were far beyond the skill levels of Ronda's opponents.
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    It was honestly one of the funniest miscalculations on their part. Ronda lost and the UFC said damn... Holly must have just been the stylistic problem. So when Nunes became champ they thought it was THE opportunity to bring Ronda back. Wouldn't have to face Holly and they could get her to be the champion and thus money making machine she previously was. They didn't know what they had in Nunes and it backfired in ... well... Rondas face... over and over.

    Ronda was to women's MMA what guys like Chuck Liddell, Rich Franklin, etc. were to men's MMA. Fighters who had talent and all, but were slightly ahead of their time and benefitted from other fighters lack of talent, well roundedness, etc. Its just the progression of the sport, and the athletes.
    In the UFC's defense, Ronda didn't even try to grapple Nunes.
    She looked awful on the feet vs both Holm and Nunes. Winged punches and left her chin exposed. Zero discipline to fight to her strengths.

    Yeah those are decent comparisons. Chuck and Rich were bigger, stronger athletes who could defend a takedown and land power strikes against the grinders they faced on their way to the top.
    Evolution/the PRIDE acquisition exposed them (still had great careers though).

    All different styles but you could say the same for Hughes and maybe BJ too.

    Originally Posted by Inavan View Post
    Your criticism of Chuck and Rich is wrong because it would also apply to Anderson Silva. They were much better than what you give them credit for.

    They did benefit from top talent being split between the UFC and Pride. Even then, their opponents were far beyond the skill levels of Ronda's opponents.
    I agree with this. Silva got a lot of opponents who couldn't capitalize on his wrestling issues but his striking was world class and on another level than Liddell/Franklin.
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    but she could beat Mayweather!!
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    Originally Posted by skinnyfat88 View Post
    In the UFC's defense, Ronda didn't even try to grapple Nunes.
    There were moments in the fight when Ronda tried to grapple with Nunes, it's just that Nunes is a more complete fighter who also has judo experience so she was able to push Ronda off.




    Even in this gif already posted Ronda was trying desperately to grab Nunes.
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    Yeah they should have had her fight Miesha Tate again


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    Originally Posted by 6-SPEED View Post
    There were moments in the fight when Ronda tried to grapple with Nunes, it's just that Nunes is a more complete fighter who also has judo experience so she was able to push Ronda off.
    And I guess judo is mainly upper body throws/trips and much less effective once you've eaten a shot (as opposed to how some fighters still hold onto a single leg while recovering from being wobbled).
    Alright I stand corrected.

    Nunes/Holly are superior fighters and could match her strength/athleticism but Ronda still did not fight smart and to her strengths in either.
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    Originally Posted by skinnyfat88 View Post
    In the UFC's defense, Ronda didn't even try to grapple Nunes
    Not true. She couldnt get through the punches to enter the clinch, cos she has no striking defence. Same thing in her fight with Holly. When she faced soccermoms, it didn't matter, cos she could walk through their punches straight in to the clinch. Against a legit striker she was hurt bad every time she got tagged.
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    Originally Posted by skinnyfat88 View Post
    but Ronda still did not fight smart and to her strengths in either.
    Stop being such a blatant nuthugger and realise that you are a fukking moronic cuck. She tried her best to tek Holly and the Nunes down, she couldnt and got the fukk beat out of her. Now, please let this rest.
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    Originally Posted by 6-SPEED View Post
    There were moments in the fight when Ronda tried to grapple with Nunes, it's just that Nunes is a more complete fighter who also has judo experience so she was able to push Ronda off.




    Even in this gif already posted Ronda was trying desperately to grab Nunes.
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