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03-18-2021, 07:33 AM #1Emperor of Antarctica
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Ford criticized by UAW for sending production to Mehico
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03-18-2021, 07:41 AM #2Unregistered User
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how many plants does Ford need if they are dropping half their model line?
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03-18-2021, 07:42 AM #3TOP G
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i am glad uaw is getting what they voted for
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03-18-2021, 07:44 AM #4Unregistered User
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Kinda hilarious given your screennameOriginally Posted by Mountaineer92
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03-18-2021, 07:46 AM #5enlightened
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International businessmen have destroyed this country
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03-18-2021, 07:51 AM #6Registered User
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Elections have consequences. It’s going to be truly sad in 5 years looking back at what America was and realizing that Trump, despite his shortcomings, was the dam holding our culture, economy and society. When Biden was sworn in, that dam broke and all of the amazing things that defined our country flowed away.
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03-18-2021, 07:51 AM #7Banned
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Biden is creating jobs in mexico so they don't have to swarm the border per CNN
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03-18-2021, 07:52 AM #8No Agony, No Bragony
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Cliffs: Ford plants, moving to Mexico - Trump was stopping them from doing it, Biden isn't.
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03-18-2021, 08:16 AM #9Registered User
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Disappointing that Ford did that.
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03-18-2021, 08:20 AM #10Unregistered User
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Seriously, been a Ford guy my whole life but I am really going to consider a Toyota when I go truck shopping in the next year.Originally Posted by ParsleyTea
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03-18-2021, 08:22 AM #116'2" 227
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TBH I'd buy a Ford tomorrow if they shut down all manufacturing in plants that use UAW and stopped doing all business with UAW, and I'd buy a Ford for life. Give these people what they want, really high hourly wages, benefits, etc... despite having no/low skills, then just move to Mexico and/or automate everything.
I try to buy american made first nowadays, but unions are not American in the least. They were, and were necessary, long ago when we had company towns and Pinkerton private armies basically forcing wagies to work for starvation wages but that is no longer a thing. It's 2021, we are a modern economy with great labor protections, if you want $40/hr, full benefits and a pension then go get some really good skills and you will make that.
Edit to add - currently I'm a Toyota for life guy, and fwiw. As far as I know barely any Toyota parts are made by UAW workers, which is why they are better quality
https://www.industryweek.com/the-eco...s.com%20survey.Toyota Tops 'Most American Made' Car List
Honda had the most cars on the list, while the Detroit Three didn't crack the top five.
Eight car models built and sold in the United States have at least 75% of their parts made domestically, with the Toyota Camry ranking highest, according to a just-released 2016 Cars.com survey.
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03-18-2021, 08:52 AM #12No Agony, No Bragony
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No it's not, it's absolutely what they would do and anyone with 1/2 a brain should know this.Originally Posted by ParsleyTea
Ford isn't altruistic, they are a company, they only look at profits. I do not blame them one bit for this, it's like sticking your hand in a fire and then complaining about the fire as if it's the fire's fault you got burnt.
Trump knew this, he kept them from leaving with threats to their ability to make $$$ and tried to entice them with $$$ to stick around, because he wanted those jobs to stay here and not move to Mexico.
It's really very simple, it didn't make Trump a genius, but when compared to Biden, who is a complete idiot when it comes to this -- then not being a complete idiot I guess does make you look that much smarter by comparison.
Everyone should have known this would happen, I knew it, I could not grasp how all these unions backed Biden, that was such a predictably dumb move. Regardless of your overall opinions of Trump/Biden - just from the perspective of worker's unions, Trump was the most Union-friendly president in my lifetime and I can not think of anyone prior any better off the top of my head.
Trump desperately wanted to keep jobs here in the US and fought against all the things which would relocate them. He might be obnoxious, he might make dumb tweets, his skin might even be orange -- but on that one thing, which is the one thing Unions should care about, Trump was 100% the person they needed to back.
And most didn't.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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03-18-2021, 08:56 AM #13Unregistered User
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My problem is why has Ford in the past and possibly now closing a UAW shop to move to Mexico when Toyota and others can build non-union plants in right to work states and don't seem to be having problems.Originally Posted by JUSA
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03-18-2021, 08:58 AM #14
Well you know what? When UAW wants guys whose only skill is using a screwdriver to be paid $45/hour then you get whats coming to you.
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03-18-2021, 09:03 AM #15Platinum User
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This aged well...
Trump touted a Ford factory staying in the US as an election win — but it was never leaving
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03-18-2021, 09:07 AM #16Registered User
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yea but do they have to read mean tweets?
that's what i thought
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I see what you did thereOriginally Posted by denrocks1
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03-18-2021, 09:43 AM #18Emperor of Antarctica
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Yes or no? Ford is now moving production to Mexico. Just LMFAO at wuT AbOUt dRuMpH!!?!!Originally Posted by chaunce54
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03-18-2021, 09:45 AM #19
This is WAY old news. A grandpa of mine was a Ford loyalist and before he passed away he said if he ever bought a new pickup it would be a Toyota because they're making them in America.
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03-18-2021, 10:27 AM #20Registered User
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The same people who for 4 years said "stop bringing up Obama" can't help but bring up Trump every time.Originally Posted by JoshLV
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03-18-2021, 10:53 AM #21Emperor of Antarctica
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Trump has damaged them mentally and emotionally in ways that can never be repaired.Originally Posted by Dan_S
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03-18-2021, 10:58 AM #22No Agony, No Bragony
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We had four+ years of this - a biased media running propaganda against Trump and ignoring his successes. Whatever your opinion on Trump, he fought to keep jobs in this country and Biden/Obama didn't and won't.Originally Posted by chaunce54
His point, you missed. He's not bashing Trump, he's mocking the article which is dismissing the victory - one that without him is now being reversed.Originally Posted by JoshLV
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03-18-2021, 11:00 AM #23Registered User
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Solution: Heavy tariffs imposed on every Ford made in mexico and shipped to America. Double their prices. Now don't get me wrong, they will still sell a chit laid of them as the woke show off their mexican made fords to prove they are the good whites.
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03-18-2021, 11:02 AM #24Registered User
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So you guys are cancelling Ford now right? When's everyone going to burn their trucks?
And didn't Trump fix NAFTA? This shouldn't be a problem now right?
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03-18-2021, 11:03 AM #25No Agony, No Bragony
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Bottom line: The second it becomes one penny cheaper to produce them here, they will. The second it becomes one penny cheaper to relocate to Mexico, they will.Originally Posted by RIKTER
Trump used a stick (tariffs) but also gave enticements to them to stay (tax breaks). Both effect Ford's bottom line and by using both, he came off as more reasonable than someone just threatening them with serious enough tariffs to entirely coerce them into staying.
People paint him as this big idiot failure, but he made billions over the years, he knows how to negotiate with his own money - that's something these politicians never learn. They negotiate with our money, so who gives a fuk if it's a good deal or not.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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03-18-2021, 11:05 AM #26Pressed, but not crushed
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He's pointing out the hypocrisy of the media saying the plant was never going to leave, (the media) essentially calling Trump a liar. This vindicates what Trump said all long.Originally Posted by JoshLV
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They constantly defended Obama by saying what about Bush as wellOriginally Posted by Dan_S
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