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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    looooool. Ok, distancing doesn't effect the spread of covid. Well, you're a crackpot.
    I see, your first retort is to result to name calling..
    What does the evidence tell you?
    here in San Diego, positivity rate has gone up as mobility has gone down. We had a better health outcome when things were more open.

    Lockdowns have not been effective whatsoever..in fact, they have caused more deaths than Covid itself..

    Wanna try again, or do you want to show some actual proof this time?
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    brb, buying a bunch of masks, then setting them on fire.

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    Originally Posted by dakensta View Post
    brb, buying a bunch of masks, then setting them on fire.

    Don’t mind dakensta here folks, he woke up to a blow job this evening.

    Bet that’s the last time you fall asleep with your mouth open on the bus to work, hey bud..?
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    I see, your first retort is to result to name calling..
    What does the evidence tell you?
    here in San Diego, positivity rate has gone up as mobility has gone down. We had a better health outcome when things were more open.

    Lockdowns have not been effective whatsoever..in fact, they have caused more deaths than Covid itself..

    Wanna try again, or do you want to show some actual proof this time?
    Actual proof that when you stay away from other people you can't get a virus spread only by other people? Really? You're asking for proof for that? People have understood this for thousands of years.
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    My god the responses on twitter were gloriously hilarious.

    People claiming to be reporting it as child abuse to have the children taken from their parents...lol

    The other favorite was people hoping the children get covid from touching the masks
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    looooool. Ok, distancing doesn't effect the spread of covid. Well, you're a crackpot.
    Aren't you the guy that believes that a mandate equals law?
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    I can't really believe you that you don't get how they do yet.
    Why were deaths at their highest, when lockdowns and mask wearing were at their peak?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Aren't you the guy that believes that a mandate equals law?
    They have the force of law, and that's not something I "believe" - it's just true. If you are a cop that's terrifying you don't know that.

    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Why were deaths at their highest, when lockdowns and mask wearing were at their peak?
    Just making more sht up huh? Figures.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    They have the force of law, and that's not something I "believe" - it's just true. If you are a cop that's terrifying you don't know that.



    Just making more sht up huh? Figures.
    Mandates aren't law Skippy. If a governor mandated for masks to be worn outside, us as police officers can't enforce it.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Mandates aren't law Skippy. If a governor mandated for masks to be worn outside, us as police officers can't enforce it.
    "The governor’s authority to issue the recent series of COVID-19 executive orders comes from Section 7 of the Illinois Emergency Management Agency Act. In the case of a disaster such as a viral epidemic, the governor can issue a proclamation declaring that disaster, allowing him to exercise the emergency powers authorized in the act for a period of up to 30 days. State and local police can work together to enforce orders given under these emergency powers."

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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    Actual proof that when you stay away from other people you can't get a virus spread only by other people? Really? You're asking for proof for that? People have understood this for thousands of years.
    Yet lockdowns have shown to be ineffective in stopping Covid, & have caused far more deaths than Covid ever would have..

    How do you account for this?

    How many examples would you like?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Mandates aren't law Skippy. If a governor mandated for masks to be worn outside, us as police officers can't enforce it.
    I was at a bar that wasn't observing the shut down restriction, nor seating limitations the week between Christmas and NYEs.

    Apparently someone in the neighborhood was in a huff about it cause the cops showed up - asked everyone to leave or if the bar would close and that was a no. So they left and the poor guys had to deal with an irate neighbor yelling about why they let them stay open and they said they couldn't do anything about it.

    They still aren't doing seating restrictions. Not sure if they have been fined yet.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    I was at a bar that wasn't observing the shut down restriction, nor seating limitations the week between Christmas and NYEs.

    Apparently someone in the neighborhood was in a huff about it cause the cops showed up - asked everyone to leave or if the bar would close and that was a no. So they left and the poor guys had to deal with an irate neighbor yelling about why they let them stay open and they said they couldn't do anything about it.

    They still aren't doing seating restrictions. Not sure if they have been fined yet.
    It's now been almost 2 months since New Year's. Despite every expert promising a "surge upon a surge" in cases from holiday travel, the Midwest continues to trend down with some of the lowest numbers seen in months - regardless of the restrictions each state had in place.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    "The governor’s authority to issue the recent series of COVID-19 executive orders comes from Section 7 of the Illinois Emergency Management Agency Act. In the case of a disaster such as a viral epidemic, the governor can issue a proclamation declaring that disaster, allowing him to exercise the emergency powers authorized in the act for a period of up to 30 days. State and local police can work together to enforce orders given under these emergency powers."

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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    I was at a bar that wasn't observing the shut down restriction, nor seating limitations the week between Christmas and NYEs.

    Apparently someone in the neighborhood was in a huff about it cause the cops showed up - asked everyone to leave or if the bar would close and that was a no. So they left and the poor guys had to deal with an irate neighbor yelling about why they let them stay open and they said they couldn't do anything about it.

    They still aren't doing seating restrictions. Not sure if they have been fined yet.
    Inspectors who work for the mayor, will issue fines, they'll have us on scene when they do it.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    If someone refuses to wear a mask outside, what can I do? You tell me.
    Ok the mandate does have the force of law. So you were wrong about that. If your state/PD is failing to allow LEO to have any tools to enforce it, I wouldn't know. And I'm sure as sht not taking your word for it.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    Ok the mandate does have the force of law. So you were wrong about that. If your state/PD is failing to allow LEO to have any tools to enforce it, I wouldn't know. And I'm sure as sht not taking your word for it.
    Someone can refuse to wear a mask outdoors, and we can't do anything about it Mr. Lawyer, a mandate isn't law. If there was 20 people outside, not social distancing, not wearing masks, we can ask them to disperse, and if they refuse they're not breaking the law.

    When someone refuses to wear one inside a private establishment, they're Being arrested for criminal trespass, not for refusing to wear to a mask.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Someone can refuse to wear a mask outdoors, and we can't do anything about it Mr. Lawyer, a mandate isn't law. If there was 20 people outside, not social distancing, not wearing masks, we can ask them to disperse, and if they refuse they're not breaking the law.

    When someone refuses to wear one inside a private establishment, they're Being arrested for criminal trespass, not for refusing to wear to a mask.
    You're an odd fellow. And the only other poster I know around here who wants to drag months and months old topics up and go argue about some sht is OPgensis/gwn77 (whatever the name is). Fine company you're keeping.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Someone can refuse to wear a mask outdoors, and we can't do anything about it Mr. Lawyer, a mandate isn't law. If there was 20 people outside, not social distancing, not wearing masks, we can ask them to disperse, and if they refuse they're not breaking the law.

    When someone refuses to wear one inside a private establishment, they're Being arrested for criminal trespass, not for refusing to wear to a mask.
    Wife & I were eating lunch on the beach, cops came up & told us we had to “move along” I asked why, those people by the water are standing there..they said, but they’re feet are in the water & they are walking, Ded srs..told them, no, they are standing..& what difference does it make?
    Kept telling us to move along..these liberal states are the biggest fukin joke. SMH
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    You're an odd fellow. And the only other poster I know around here who wants to drag months and months old topics up and go argue about some sht is OPgensis/gwn77 (whatever the name is). Fine company you're keeping.
    Come on now Mr. Lawyer, if someone refused to wear a mask outdoors, and tbe mandate says they must, and they still refuse, what can happen to them?

    They can't be fined or arrested, because a mandate isn't law. I can't even detain them.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Wife & I were eating lunch on the beach, cops came up & told us we had to “move along” I asked why, those people by the water are standing there..they said, but they’re feet are in the water & they are walking, Ded srs..told them, no, they are standing..& what difference does it make?
    Kept telling us to move along..these liberal states are the biggest fukin joke. SMH
    Should have refused, and recorded it.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Wife & I were eating lunch on the beach, cops came up & told us we had to “move along” I asked why, those people by the water are standing there..they said, but they’re feet are in the water & they are walking, Ded srs..told them, no, they are standing..& what difference does it make?
    Kept telling us to move along..these liberal states are the biggest fukin joke. SMH
    How did Anya feel about it comrade?
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    How did Anya feel about it comrade?
    Hopefully they didn't leave. This isn't Western Europe, Australia or Canada.

    You should have heard our roll calls last year bitch, "The governor has issued a stay at home order, we will not be enforcing it."
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