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    Originally Posted by CBRIT89 View Post
    So is this product actually legit then? I've always been told t boosters are either real and illegal, or legal and fake.

    Assume it's ok to order to the UK, and no customs issues?
    Yes it is a legitimate product, it claims to raise your testosterone levels and it did for mine significantly. When I come off cycle they drop but they don’t seem to go back to baseline for about two months. It maintains in your system pretty good that’s why the seller wants you cycling on and off.

    I don’t know about shipping to the uk I would look into that before ordering, he has always replied to me quickly with any questions.

    I will have blood drawn again in about 4 weeks, I’m midway into a cycle right now and have blood drawn at the end of each and every one to have a record of long term results.
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    Checking in guys, i was supposed to do my last blood draw this past Saturday (the 22nd). This would have been the morning after i completed a full 8 weeks on the testosterone booster. I ​was out of town on vacation indulging in a lot of food, no exercise and plenty of drinking. Didn't get much sleep on week and wasn't able to make it to the lab in time. I continued the booster and will have blood drawn this coming Saturday the 29th, should have results a week from today to post on here for any of those that originally followed this thread and results.
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    did you see the before and afters?

    trt i wouldn't qualify for, i'm 46 and over 1000ng/dl, free test peaked at 200 (flagged as high).

    curious if i'm higher this time around
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    Nice thread Manwitta, just came across it. Have you noticed any loss of bf while keeping muscle tone with this? Also, any hair loss?
    Would you have a code to enter @ purchase?
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    i began using it at a time during the pandemic when gyms were shut down and no real ability to train (minus home workouts, i'm not consistent with those).

    bodyfat dropped when i switched to a meat and eggs diet (vince gironda's steak and eggs diet) for 3 weeks but felt terrible. strength actually improved during that short period of time although slightly. generally no i didn't notice a reduction in bodyfat but my diet wasn't clean. i did notice i barely get soreness from workouts, even if i switch the program. i tried to abuse a couple body parts in hopes i wouldn't be able to walk from soreness (did a leg workout, finished with high rep breathing squats)...barely felt anything.

    no hair loss but then again there is no male pattern baldness in my family, moms or dads side.

    as far as a coupon code i'll send you a PM, it isn't sold on here so i don't want to violate any rules.
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    i began using it at a time during the pandemic when gyms were shut down and no real ability to train (minus home workouts, i'm not consistent with those).

    bodyfat dropped when i switched to a meat and eggs diet (vince gironda's steak and eggs diet) for 3 weeks but felt terrible. strength actually improved during that short period of time although slightly. generally no i didn't notice a reduction in bodyfat but my diet wasn't clean. i did notice i barely get soreness from workouts, even if i switch the program. i tried to abuse a couple body parts in hopes i wouldn't be able to walk from soreness (did a leg workout, finished with high rep breathing squats)...barely felt anything.

    no hair loss but then again there is no male pattern baldness in my family, moms or dads side.

    as far as a coupon code i'll send you a PM, it isn't sold on here so i don't want to violate any rules.
    Appreciated. Repped. Will grab some as well, but don’t plan on tracking any T levels.
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    yeah i've spent way too much on blood work for the whole forum lol, cost me like 50 bucks a pop before and after each cycle so it adds up.

    the pattern shows positive and significant changes each and every cycle. and like i said, i'll have my blood drawn again saturday and will post results as soon as i receive them along with a screen shot.
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    got my results

    Total testosterone 921 ng/dL
    Free testosterone 169 pg/mL (flagged as high by lab, range goes to 155)

    that's a 95 ng per dL REDUCTION in total testosterone yet a 15 pg per mL increase

    Will post a screenshot later on or tomorrow, just saw my results in an email earlier.

    This was a 9 week ON cycle instead of my usual 8 weeks...i honestly thought i'd be higher, it's always been higher every cycle and it's officially been about a year. Maybe there's a point of diminishing returns? I'm going to email Mike and share my results. Also another issue...I was taking dhea during this cycle. my previous dhea s level was in the 380's, this time it was down to 279. Can't figure out what happened. Didn't do an estradiol test maybe i should have.

    Some things to keep in mind:

    Hadn't lifted weights for 3 weeks up to the blood test, 5 days before was prepping the house and then 10 days worth of vacation/indulging/sugar and junk food, alcohol. Returned back immediately went to work...few days with pretty bad sleep since i was still in vacation as far as sleep patterns go.

    also, didn't take zma for at least a few weeks leading up, skipped vitamin D3 doses and a few other variables that may have contributed i have no idea.

    i feel fine and shouldn't complain, they're still stellar numbers but my concern is what would my numbers have been if i was NOT supplementing.

    think i have answered all my questions but if anyone has any input at all i'd appreciate it.

    have to stress, ZERO resistance training and horrible diet for the last three weeks leading up to the test. can that affect levels that much?
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    Lack of training and diet could be responsible for the drop, but all in all your numbers are still very impressive

    I'd be curious to see your bloodwork in 8 weeks after you get back into a normal routine
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    Yes that’s my guess and like I said, the dhea numbers are a bit of a concern since I was using it but it dropped significantly.

    Drew blood the exact same time of day I always do.
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    You a med tech too?
    Ha ha no, I’ve been doing before and afters a of a t booster since I first began. Each and every cycle has shown an increase in total and free testosterone, this is the first time the total T has decreased but I am on the upper end of the scale so I’m wondering if that’s as far as you can go naturally.
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    finally uploaded a screenshot, values are still good but again my total did drop however i have more available test because my free is higher
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    Total went down, but your free went up. You're winning
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    solid product

    i'll continue to do labs before and after, want to see trends in strength gains, fat loss etc but haven't been consistent for long enough with an eating or training plan. now with gyms open entirely it'll be easier to gauge.

    is it worth it? my cost for a years worth (doing cycles of 8 weeks on and 4 weeks off minus doing one 9 week off cycle to get a washout period) comes out to 155 dollars. that's 13 bucks a month on average if you buy everything up front. i think it's worth every penny to have high end of normal testosterone levels through out the year safely and legally.

    will continue to update every time i get new labs.
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    The question is.....do you feel better....have more energy........stronger?
    yes, yes and yes...but it's not an entirely fair comparison because i started using it during the lockdown when i hadn't worked out in months. i wish i had began well before the pandemic with a better baseline. at the end of the day i know my body and can tell there is less soreness post a leg trashing day. not a leg day but the occasional day when i hammer the legs with way more sets and reps, breathing squats to finish, etc. there is a noticeable improvement in recovery.

    sleep is a big one, sleep quality has improved and less sniffles and this year i was the least amount of sick than at any point i can remember. no flu this past winter and no covid that i'm aware of....many of the guys i was working with all had covid and i worked around them, guessing my immune system was stronger this year.
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    I personally cannot feel a difference between 700 and 1,000 ng/dl.

    Now, I can feel a difference between 700 and 2,000+ ng/dl.
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    i seriously would!

    if you wanted to go the extra step you can get the total and free testosterone lab through ulta wellness for 40 bucks ish.

    it's an extra 80 for before and after but you'll know EXACTLY how much it worked for you.

    thanks for the reps, it wont let me hit you back yet but i'll spread some more around so this retarded system can let me do so
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    I personally cannot feel a difference between 700 and 1,000 ng/dl.

    Now, I can feel a difference between 700 and 2,000+ ng/dl.
    interesting, yes some people can and others can't
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    There must be more to the story of why yours is up.

    Were labs drawn at the same time of day?Same amount of rest the night before?

    Did E2 go up with TT? SHBG? LH? FSH?
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    There must be more to the story of why yours is up.

    Were labs drawn at the same time of day?Same amount of rest the night before?

    Did E2 go up with TT? SHBG? LH? FSH?
    estradiol i only checked once, was at 26 which is in the "optimal" range
    didn't check the others

    all blood was drawn within half an hour each and every time, if you look at the screenshots times are listed. some are as early as 7:45 am and some as late as 8:15, was consistent with my sleep but before the booster my sleep wasn't good. i now get hit really hard with becoming beyond drowsy right around 10:15 pm every night. this has never happened. i mention to everyone probably the best effect is the sleep quality, i haven't slept this good in over 20 years.

    some other things i should mention: as of january i upped my vitamin d from 5000 to 10000 daily. i used a topical dhea for a few months but not all the way through, three weeks on one week off. took zma almost all nights before bed. ate whole eggs almost every day, 4 on average. for a majority of the time, i was having 2-3 grams of ginger extract a day paired with 2 grams of curcumin. used DIM for my cycle where i hit 1091 and a free test level of 200. also made sure i ate a few brazil nuts daily.

    there was a couple of those months where i ran a combo of maca, shilajit and rhodiola but that was for periods of when i felt most stressed.

    i've been drawing blood for a year now before and after each cycle, you can see the dates and times blood was drawn.


    in the last year, stress has been higher than normal. lost my old assignment at work, been transferred multiple times, side business shut down, so as far as stress goes it has been more than in the past yet my numbers continue to improve.

    i'll post one of mike's messages to me where i told him i could not believe how well his product works, his reply summed it up.
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    I personally cannot feel a difference between 700 and 1,000 ng/dl.

    Now, I can feel a difference between 700 and 2,000+ ng/dl.
    True, but keeping your levels at a consistent 900/1100 is the better option
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    I've done blood work with DIM and it does nothing for me although I am using exogenous test all the time.

    I'm just curious where this extra test is coming from in Mike's product. What is triggering your body to make more test or convert less to estrogens? This is where knowing SHBG, LH, FSH and E2 would be helpful to compare before and while using the product.
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