Ron DeSantis ties Mike Pence for 2nd place in new 2024 GOP poll

**Noliberals4** · 03-05-2021, 12:20 PM

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-2024-matchup/

Trump had 51%, while DeSantis and Pence tied with 22%.

if DeSantis plays his cards right, he could be the bridge between MAGA and the Establishment (whether or not you like them, you need some of their support). DeSantis has a few things to that Trump didn't have:

- DeSantis actually fights back against the media instead of letting them cuck him
- DeSantis can debate
- DeSantis actually fulfilled his immigration policies in Florida (and guess what? His approval rating among Latinos is over 55%!)

etc. etc.

Cruz has 19% but I can't see him getting the nomination. It's between DeSantis and Pence and Noem and maybe a breakout star (a Carson/Santorum type deal) IMO.

MAGA will live on the second Trump is out of the picture. The first thing MAGAs should do is get rid of Trump and Q-tards.

**DynamicDot** · 03-05-2021, 12:26 PM

DeSantis has the best chance of winning in 2024. Liberals have smeared Trump too much to the point of no return for him unfortunately.

**JUGGERNAUT1333** · 03-05-2021, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by DynamicDot

DeSantis has the best chance of winning in 2024. Liberals have smeared Trump too much to the point of no return for him unfortunately.

This. If the Republicans choose Trump it's game over for the right. DeSantis is a very strong candidate.

**rhadam** · 03-05-2021, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by DynamicDot

DeSantis has the best chance of winning in 2024. Liberals have smeared Trump too much to the point of no return for him unfortunately.

Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333

This. If the Republicans choose Trump it's game over for the right. DeSantis is a very strong candidate.

These. DeSantis has my vote, and I feel more confident with him in Office than I did with Trump, for many reasons.

**mCheech** · 03-05-2021, 12:36 PM

I've been huge on DeSantis for years now. He is trump's policies without trump. I'd imagine if he had any terrible dirt, it would have come out in the Florida governor campaign.

Should they be wasting him on 2024 though? What are the odds you have two 1 term presidencies in a row?

**JUGGERNAUT1333** · 03-05-2021, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by rhadam

These. DeSantis has my vote, and I feel more confident with him in Office than I did with Trump, for many reasons.

For sure. The idea of Trump was captivating. Make America Great, against the establishment, America first...... but his presentation and mannerism were just terrible for the President of the US (granted, I lol'd hard AF at his tweets and stuff)

Desantis gives the same feeling, but without the worry of him going on a crazy social media frenzy.

**LiftBigEatBig** · 03-05-2021, 12:39 PM

Trump was/is my boy but he is too much of a loose cannon in the Oval Office.

DeSantis has the political experience to better navigate these shark infested waters.

Noem impressed me with her speech at CPAC.

DeSantis/Noem ticket would do really well.

**rhadam** · 03-05-2021, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by LiftBigEatBig

Trump was/is my boy but he is too much of a loose cannon in the Oval Office.

DeSantis has the political experience to better navigate these shark infested waters.

Noem impressed me with her speech at CPAC.

DeSantis/Noem ticket would do really well.

HHHHnnnnnggggggggggggg wood vote for that ticket

**Noliberals4** · 03-05-2021, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by oregononian1

Is there one vote that Desantis would get that trump wouldn't get?

Suburban whites and Latinos.

**JUGGERNAUT1333** · 03-05-2021, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by oregononian1

Is there one vote that Desantis would get that trump wouldn't get?

Desantis could pull the people who were in the middle last election that voted for Biden simply because he isn't Trump. Trump lost a ton of votes due to his outbursts and tweets, not so much his policies.

**Noliberals4** · 03-05-2021, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333

Trump lost a ton of votes due to his outbursts and tweets, not so much his policies.

Finally, somebody gets it. If Trump acts Presidential for 3 months, he wins the election easily.

MAGA is popular. Republicans did great in 2020, and if Trump just stopped it with the crazy Tweets and debates he wins the election easily and probably the popular vote too.

(I'd rep you but I already repped you earlier for your r/nosleep suggestion).

**GuineaDago585** · 03-05-2021, 12:48 PM

DeSantis should run, choose Trump for his VP, get elected (he’d win in a landslide) and then immediately resign so MAGA can continue WITH Donald Trump.

**Noliberals4** · 03-05-2021, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by GuineaDago585

DeSantis should run, choose Trump for his VP, get elected (he’d win in a landslide) and then immediately resign so MAGA can continue WITH Donald Trump.

Nah. Trump didn't get any of his policies passed. DeSantis did in Florida easily. Por ejemplo: DeSantis banned sanctuary cities and implemented E-Verify. Trump didn't chit on immigration or anything.

Time to put Trump behind us and let MAGA move forward.

**sfgiants13** · 03-05-2021, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by mCheech

I've been huge on DeSantis for years now. He is trump's policies without trump. I'd imagine if he had any terrible dirt, it would have come out in the Florida governor campaign.

Should they be wasting him on 2024 though? What are the odds you have two 1 term presidencies in a row?

DeSantis is good on policy and without the characteristics that cost Trump the election. He'd be a good choice. Pence is too conservative for a lot of moderates these days even though I did like him as VP.

**ApeXXXPredator** · 03-05-2021, 12:52 PM

Mike Pence fuking sucks. He sold Trump out and everybody knows it.

**Mountaineer92** · 03-05-2021, 12:53 PM

DeSantis/Noem ticket LETS GOOOOOOOO

**LiftBigEatBig** · 03-05-2021, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by sfgiants13

DeSantis is good on policy and without the characteristics that cost Trump the election. He'd be a good choice. Pence is too conservative for a lot of moderates these days even though I did like him as VP.

This.

Pence is a non-starter for President. He is too religious and you won't gain any of the swing votes.

That being said - Pence is a bad mother****er who is calm, cool and collected. He crushed Kamala in their debate.

**DynamicDot** · 03-05-2021, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333

This. If the Republicans choose Trump it's game over for the right. DeSantis is a very strong candidate.

Pretty much. 2020 Election was about Trump or not, and the answer (if you don't think there was enough voter fraud to overturn the election), was that more people disliked Trump and by a lot and in the swing/key states.

DeSantis has a pretty good shot since he doesn't have too many skeletons or smearing against him. So far only libtards make excuses like he underreports COVID numbers because they can't fathom that his no restriction policy may have been good and better than those with restrictions.

**markkillerings** · 03-05-2021, 12:57 PM

I'm good with either Trump or DeSantis in 2024.

**LiftBigEatBig** · 03-05-2021, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by markkillerings

I'm good with either Trump or DeSantis in 2024.

The problem with running Trump is that the election becomes about him and not about policy.

After 4 years of blatant socialism, handouts and censorship, the American people will be clamouring for some Conservative policies.

Take the battle there and let informed voters decide the election.

**DynamicDot** · 03-05-2021, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by LiftBigEatBig

The problem with running Trump is that the election becomes about him and not about policy.

After 4 years of blatant socialism, handouts and censorship, the American people will be clamouring for some Conservative policies.

Take the battle there and let informed voters decide the election.

Eh when it comes to democrats vs. republicans, it's never about policy. Democrats don't have much policy, they win by emotion and it worked in 2020 because of BLM.

DeSantis hasn't been smeared enough to let uninformed voters think he's some racist white supremacist.

**markkillerings** · 03-05-2021, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by LiftBigEatBig

The problem with running Trump is that the election becomes about him and not about policy.

After 4 years of blatant socialism, handouts and censorship, the American people will be clamouring for some Conservative policies.

Take the battle there and let informed voters decide the election.

I don't disagree. But it's gonna be a long, and funny, 4 years. So we'll have to see how the landscape evolves until we really know if Trump or DeSantis are the better candidates.

**RIKTER** · 03-05-2021, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by DynamicDot

DeSantis has the best chance of winning in 2024. Liberals have smeared Trump too much to the point of no return for him unfortunately.

Agreed, the left should decide who's palatable for right leaning voters.

Go Kasich!!

That said, as of now, I could get behind Santos. Pence no.

**LiftBigEatBig** · 03-05-2021, 01:25 PM

^^^Good points.

All I know is, Noem can definitely pull some undecided male voters:

**PepperedAngus** · 03-05-2021, 01:29 PM

The way DeSantis handled florida in this farce of a year showed me he has the stones to make this happen.

**rhadam** · 03-05-2021, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by ApeXXXPredator

Mike Pence fuking sucks. He sold Trump out and everybody knows it.

He acted according to the law and conducted himself with dignity. So no.. Pence is a solid and respectable guy who deserved better than what he received.

**RIKTER** · 03-05-2021, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by rhadam

He acted according to the law and conducted himself with dignity. So no.. Pence is a solid and respectable guy who deserved better than what he received.

I'm more about policy:

2006: Cosponsored a bill to increase high-tech worker importation (Shadegg).

Rep. Pence was a cosponsor of H.R. 5744 to increase the annual H-1B cap from 65,000 to 115,000 and then by 20 percent in any following year in which the cap is met.

As well, H.R. 5744 would increase the annual worldwide level of employment-based (EB) immigrants by 150,000 plus 340,000 spouses and minor children of EB immigrants who are exempt from the cap. Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) was the main sponsor of this bill.

Do the math on what that number would be in 2020 with a 20% increase every year for 14 years and then come to the realization if you currently have job in any of those fields, you wouldn't today if Mike Pence bill became law in 2006.

**OPGenesis** · 03-05-2021, 01:48 PM

I think the GOP may be more of a train wreck than the left these days lmao.

The CuckPAC circus was amazing to behold.

DeSantis has absolutely NO chance. He isn't known well enough on a national basis. The people who are championing Noem are just flat out cucks.

Mike Pence lol. Need I say more. Dude is a creep.

I read Trump may run again in 2024, and his strategy is to oblige to modern day identity politics, by selecting an AA or a woman as his running mate.

Any chance he picks Young Pharaoh?

**jeffl1980** · 03-05-2021, 01:51 PM

DeSantis has my vote.

**Noliberals4** · 03-05-2021, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by RIKTER

I'm more about policy:

2006: Cosponsored a bill to increase high-tech worker importation (Shadegg).

Rep. Pence was a cosponsor of H.R. 5744 to increase the annual H-1B cap from 65,000 to 115,000 and then by 20 percent in any following year in which the cap is met.

As well, H.R. 5744 would increase the annual worldwide level of employment-based (EB) immigrants by 150,000 plus 340,000 spouses and minor children of EB immigrants who are exempt from the cap. Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) was the main sponsor of this bill.

Do the math on what that number would be in 2020 with a 20% increase every year for 14 years and then come to the realization if you currently have job in any of those fields, you wouldn't today if Mike Pence bill became law in 2006.

Why do you use stuff like this against Pence, but not Trump's policies against him?

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