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    Originally Posted by neondevil View Post
    So everybody is all in on the blackpill:

    If everything is worthless why not do whatever you want while you're here? If nothing matters why not go out into the street and slap the person you disagree with?

    The whole black pill ideology to me looks like it should be entirely freeing because if nothing matters then you're chained to nothing and can do anything. It sounds like people hear this like the guy in the OP and just use it to self validate not doing anything which is the most pathetic thing of all, any choice is better than no choice.

    The real concept is that you can truly do anything it's just the amount of pain and what you'll have to do to get there.



    Inb4 people respond with "Well what about x y z"

    Did you see someone do it? Then it's possible you just have to do it a different way.
    It is freeing in the sense that it devalues life as a whole. Hence the roping and doping
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    Originally Posted by Silencespeaks View Post
    Women can have unlimited sex but we have our own blackpill - youth and beauty are everything, and men cheat or leave. Women have our own burdens to carry.
    Women may have burdens but far less than most men. As for cheating or leaving women actually instigate divorce more than men. They also tend to stop having sex after they've tied a man down without a prenup.

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    Originally Posted by ninetynine8 View Post
    I acknowledge the drastic influence internet/tech has on our psyche but there is a huge difference between being influenced by tech and being controlled by tech which is what the chip would do. Elon acts as if there's no difference because he has his own interests in mind.
    Yeah I def don’t want a chip in my head and I don’t think society should go in that direction. I think it is very dangerous. Too many evil forces with nefarious intentions can take advantage of that.

    Over the past decade I’ve had distinct experiences of encounters with evil forces and darkness and I feel like the devil is clawing at me or lurking and watching me and trying to gain influence. And I feel like that is happening in society in general, not just my personal life.
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    Originally Posted by Silencespeaks View Post
    Yeah I def don’t want a chip in my head and I don’t think society should go in that direction. I think it is very dangerous. Too many evil forces with nefarious intentions can take advantage of that.

    Over the past decade I’ve had distinct experiences of encounters with evil forces and darkness and I feel like the devil is clawing at me or lurking and watching me and trying to gain influence. And I feel like that is happening in society in general, not just my personal life.
    That's just one way your mental illness manifests itself.
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    Originally Posted by ninetynine8 View Post
    Women may have burdens but far less than most men. As for cheating or leaving women actually instigate divorce more than men. They also tend to stop having sex after they've tied a man down without a prenup.

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    What about periods though
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    Was just talking to a dude at work and he was telling me about how all his friends are depressed and have women issues

    Chit is sad man

    Society is falling but people don't want to admit it or seem to care

    Social media and porn have ruined everything tbh
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    Originally Posted by Kev1972 View Post
    That's just one way your mental illness manifests itself.
    Maybe
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    @ Ken: It keeps giving me the access denied error when trying to respond to you.

    Originally Posted by Kev1972 View Post
    Right. Which is why there are homos.
    The existence of homosexuals does little to negate the base argument.

    Originally Posted by Silencespeaks View Post
    Sex and mating and starting a family etc are not just random hobbies though. They are literally fundamental to human existence.

    Almost as basic as survival.
    It is not a basic need.

    If sex were a basic need, you would essentially be stating that not providing sex to a man would be akin to not providing him food.

    It could also be further construed as justifying rape in some cases.
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    Originally Posted by markkillerings View Post
    Thanks for the reply.

    With that said, why would this make anybody depressed? Once you realize women are flawed creatures that don't deserve to be put on a pedestal, you start behaving more appropriately and stop acting like such an idiot.
    Because that is the nicest way you could put blackpill. Here's a better definition ( copied from somewhere else ):

    "Black pill ideology claims, among other things:

    Not only do women control the world, but it will always be this way and men will always and forever be subordinate to women, because men have a biological drive to have sex that can never be changed and women will always use this sex drive to manipulate men;
    The only thing that matters, has ever mattered, or will ever matter to women is looks and status, because women are biologically hard-wired to mate only with men of looks and status due to their evolutionary programming;
    Some men—“omega men”—are biologically predisposed never to find love or sex, and trying to change this is as futile and pointless as trying to flap your arms and fly;
    Personality does not matter to women when they make choices about who to have sex with—-this is simply one of the lies women tell men in order to manipulate them (“looks are everything, personality is nothing” is a common black pill slogan);
    Because all these things come from biological determinism, they are as fixed and immutable as the law of gravity—an incel can not stop being an incel any more than a rock can spontaneously change into a cat.
    It’s a toxic blend of misogyny and nihilism."
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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    The existence of homosexuals does little to negate the base argument.



    It is not a basic need.

    If sex were a basic need, you would essentially be stating that not providing sex to a man would be akin to not providing him food.

    It could also be further construed as justifying rape in some cases.
    A basic need in what sense? You can live without sex in the same way you can live without contacting any humans, is that a life you want to live?

    Rape would not be justified on any basis because the entire point to the discussion is human wellbeing, which rape worsens.
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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    @ Ken: It keeps giving me the access denied error when trying to respond to you.
    Remove the quote or snip it. There is a character limit and quoted text counts towards it
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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    @ Ken: It keeps giving me the access denied error when trying to respond to you.

    Thats the universe telling you im right brah


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    Originally Posted by DizzySmalls View Post
    It is freeing in the sense that it devalues life as a whole. Hence the roping and doping

    So then maybe it's right because a man of any value would look at that and move forward but it always seems to come down to:

    "I can't do x because y held me back so I'll never attempt x"
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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    @ Ken: It keeps giving me the access denied error when trying to respond to you.



    The existence of homosexuals does little to negate the base argument.



    It is not a basic need.

    If sex were a basic need, you would essentially be stating that not providing sex to a man would be akin to not providing him food.

    It could also be further construed as justifying rape in some cases.
    It’s ridiculous to say that sex doesn’t matter, or mating doesn’t matter, or starting a family doesn’t matter. Those are fundamental to the human experience and survival of human kind.
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    Originally Posted by Silencespeaks View Post
    It’s ridiculous to say that sex doesn’t matter, or mating doesn’t matter, or starting a family doesn’t matter. Those are fundamental to the human experience and survival of human kind.
    I can't even function anymore because of lack of intimacy
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    Originally Posted by Ken-O View Post
    Thats the universe telling you im right brah


    Lmao das it
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    Originally Posted by Silencespeaks View Post
    It’s ridiculous to say that sex doesn’t matter, or mating doesn’t matter, or starting a family doesn’t matter. Those are fundamental to the human experience and survival of human kind.
    Except we are not animals. How many kids do you have again?
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    Originally Posted by Liberal3lite View Post
    Yep, 80% of suicides are committed by men. When women are depressed, society coddles them and tells them they're sad because life is supposedly unfair for women.

    When a man commits suicide, he is ridiculed and society says it's all his fault for not self-improving. Just look at this thread. So many dudes are just talking **** and showing no respect whatsoever.
    This is true. I remember last year, around this time, someone made a thread about a good looking 19 year old took her life because of lockdowns. Almost everyone in that thread was saying how sad it was. Hardly anyone was calling her a loser or saying "natural selection".

    It was this girl

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-lockdown.html


    Crazy how two young people, who had their whole lives ahead of them, willingly took their own lives and received different reactions for their similar actions. One was mourned for and had people to their defense. The other was ridiculed and called a mentally weak loser.
    Reality is what you perceive it to be.
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    Originally Posted by Liberal3lite View Post
    Yep, 80% of suicides are committed by men. When women are depressed, society coddles them and tells them they're sad because life is supposedly unfair for women.

    When a man commits suicide, he is ridiculed and society says it's all his fault for not self-improving. Just look at this thread. So many dudes are just talking **** and showing no respect whatsoever.
    And exactly what are we supposed to "show respect" towards?

    The guy wasn't terminally ill or anything.
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    This is going to sound controversial to some but for some I don’t see suicide as a coward thing to do. If you’ve tried everything possible to have a better life and it never happens no matter what you do or change than ending it is just a way of putting ones misery out. For some people there is just no light at the end of the tunnel. It could be your genetics, your financial situation. No social life, or whatever it is. I’m sure many that have finally said **** it all has tried to make things better. For some they are just meant for an unhappy life no matter what they change. And to those I wouldn’t call a coward for ending it.
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    Remove the quote or snip it. There is a character limit and quoted text counts towards it
    Tried, but I'll just vocaroo...

    Originally Posted by ninetynine8 View Post
    A basic need in what sense? You can live without sex in the same way you can live without contacting any humans, is that a life you want to live?

    Rape would not be justified on any basis because the entire point to the discussion is human wellbeing, which rape worsens.
    So then, it's not a basic need. The conclusion you've formed is absolutely the same as mine; it's not a basic need. It's a complex desire.

    Plenty of people live very happily in the absence of much human contact. Essentially, you're stating that it's not nearly as important as several other factors toward happiness.

    Originally Posted by Ken-O View Post
    Thats the universe telling you im right brah


    Some people are better off dead if we follow your logic, FYI. I should hope to god, you're wrong.

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    Originally Posted by Silencespeaks View Post
    It’s ridiculous to say that sex doesn’t matter, or mating doesn’t matter, or starting a family doesn’t matter. Those are fundamental to the human experience and survival of human kind.
    See below

    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Except we are not animals. How many kids do you have again?
    This. If I recall correctly, SS, you have, yourself, stated that you did not want children.
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    Originally Posted by Silencespeaks View Post
    Yeah I think women have better social support systems. I’ve been extremely depressed myself but always had family and friends to give me love and emotional support. If you don’t have that support when things go wrong then life can become unbearable.



    Men arent allowed to have support systems. A man views his self worth almost entirely in ability to attract opposite sex, whether they realize it or not (hence asset accumulation). Even if you take the stigma away, women will (arguably rightly) view a man who needs emotional support as weak. Sure, they will still be friends with him - but no they will not see him as a partner or love interest anymore.


    If you're a man you dont need support systems. You need to learn to handle the downs of life yourself. Meditation, outlets, perspective, stoicism, etc.
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    Originally Posted by meanstringbean View Post
    Men arent allowed to have support systems. A man views his self worth almost entirely in ability to attract opposite sex, whether they realize it or not (hence asset accumulation). Even if you take the stigma away, women will (arguably rightly) view a man who needs emotional support as weak. Sure, they will still be friends with him - but no they will not see him as a partner or love interest anymore.


    If you're a man you dont need support systems. You need to learn to handle the downs of life yourself. Meditation, outlets, perspective, stoicism, etc.
    The bolded is a huge part of why I have such an issue with assigning such a high value to male competence being measured in the ability to have sex.

    I do think you're wrong about support systems though.
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    Originally Posted by meanstringbean View Post
    Men arent allowed to have support systems. A man views his self worth almost entirely in ability to attract opposite sex, whether they realize it or not (hence asset accumulation). Even if you take the stigma away, women will (arguably rightly) view a man who needs emotional support as weak. Sure, they will still be friends with him - but no they will not see him as a partner or love interest anymore.


    If you're a man you dont need support systems. You need to learn to handle the downs of life yourself. Meditation, outlets, perspective, stoicism, etc.
    You're an idiot. Family, your IRL brahs, your partner are all a support system.

    ITT: conspiracy solidifies into delusions that make your life substantially shittier, and as the OP brah demonstrates, substantially shorter.

    Be a good person, be in decent shape, be productive and able to support yourself and eventually a family, while regularly making good-intentioned efforts at dating (online, via friends and family, via random encounters) and eventually 80% of you will be fine. For the truly ugly (spiritually or physically) it will be more of a battle. Women are not the enemy, cowardice and doomsaying are the enemy. Get hip, homies.
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    Originally Posted by PassiveLearner View Post
    You're an idiot. Family, your IRL brahs, your partner are all a support system.

    ITT: conspiracy solidifies into delusions that make your life substantially shittier, and as the OP brah demonstrates, substantially shorter.

    Be a good person, be in decent shape, be productive and able to support yourself and eventually a family, while regularly making good-intentioned efforts at dating (online, via friends and family, via random encounters) and eventually 80% of you will be fine. For the truly ugly (spiritually or physically) it will be more of a battle. Women are not the enemy, cowardice and doomsaying are the enemy. Get hip, homies.
    Clear and concise. Das it.
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    Originally Posted by PassiveLearner View Post
    You're an idiot. Family, your IRL brahs, your partner are all a support system.

    ITT: conspiracy solidifies into delusions that make your life substantially shittier, and as the OP brah demonstrates, substantially shorter.

    Be a good person, be in decent shape, be productive and able to support yourself and eventually a family, while regularly making good-intentioned efforts at dating (online, via friends and family, via random encounters) and eventually 80% of you will be fine. For the truly ugly (spiritually or physically) it will be more of a battle. Women are not the enemy, cowardice and doomsaying are the enemy. Get hip, homies.



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    Originally Posted by meanstringbean View Post
    Even if you take the stigma away, women will (arguably rightly) view a man who needs emotional support as weak. Sure, they will still be friends with him - but no they will not see him as a partner or love interest anymore.

    This is true to an extreme. Many many stories of how women have seen their partner cry or in a weak moment and then suddenly lose attraction for him. EVEN the women who say they want a guy who is sensitive vulnerable or equally emotional....they are in fact the women who post on redddit or whatever trying to come to terms with their contrasting feelings about him.

    Women don't want equal men but they want equality for themselves. This is also seen in how women despite her own income EXPECTS her male partner to earn more than her. And the blackpill here is that women who earn more $$$ tend to only be attracted to men who earn exponentially more than she does. So a walmart cashier might be OK with a mechanic who makes 20% more, but a femaloid doctor needs a surgeon or CEO who makes 40% more.

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    Originally Posted by meanstringbean View Post
    Men arent allowed to have support systems. A man views his self worth almost entirely in ability to attract opposite sex, whether they realize it or not (hence asset accumulation). Even if you take the stigma away, women will (arguably rightly) view a man who needs emotional support as weak. Sure, they will still be friends with him - but no they will not see him as a partner or love interest anymore.


    If you're a man you dont need support systems. You need to learn to handle the downs of life yourself. Meditation, outlets, perspective, stoicism, etc.
    According to that logic, all these Kpop stars below are considered "more of a man" than you because they attract infinitely more women than the majority of the earth's male population.

    Reality is what you perceive it to be.
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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    Clear and concise. Das it.
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    Originally Posted by meanstringbean View Post
    See how many times you cry in front of your wife about a bad day at work or life stress and see how long that relationship lasts phaggot
    I mean, even alone I don't cry about my bad day or my life stress. I do break it down with my wife or my close brahs when needed but I do so from a position of humility, strength and pride so I don't look or feel like a coward or cuckold. You're posting more doomsaying. This just adds darkness to your misc brahs' lives that they don't benefit from and is misleading and untrue. Ronnie Stahp.
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    Originally Posted by meanstringbean View Post
    A man views his self worth almost entirely in ability to attract opposite sex
    No. Perhaps that is how you view yourself and explains your cowardly, self-defeating worldview. A man's worth is a complex thing. I take pride and feel self-worth from my work ethic, career success, lifting progress, ability to make my friends and wife have a good time (i.e. interesting, funny), ability to make the world a slightly better place. Because of this, I am attractive to enough women that I did well dating and did well marrying. Had I taken the Incel mindset, I would've been an unattractive loser either *maxing of your choice, or a quitter who reconciled himself to be a forever alone loser who "knows the real real truth" fuking idiots. That's why you're not reproducing - you're detached from reality.

    Women are not your enemy. Your enemy is a cowardly and self-defeating attitude that disconnects you from real life and puts you into the grasp of conmen and hucksters on the internet whose real goal is to separate you from your money. Get hip, homie.
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