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    Ron Johnson, and 13 GOP senators are gonna force senate clers to read aloud stimulus

    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1012409/220

    Ill bet anything the MSM will avoid covering this, or will spin it as conservatives trying to delay much needed aid...

    But with the info out there moderate dems will have to s seriously consider weather, or not they want to vote yes on the bill....
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    Why didn't you mouth breathers oppose stimulus spending when Corona Don was pushing for it ?
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    Originally Posted by MMeadows11 View Post
    Why didn't you mouth breathers oppose stimulus spending when Corona Don was pushing for it ?
    IIRC many of us did.

    Also supporting direct tax payer stimulus vs funneling billions to special interests are two very different things. So a portion of complaints always about where and how the money is being allocated.
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    Yep, I agree a good deal of pushback on the prior stimulus packages were in the MISC.
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    Great idea. However it irritates me as a conservative that republicans seem to love to bitch and moan as the minority party but when they are majority they don’t get anything done/
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    Originally Posted by MMeadows11 View Post
    Why didn't you mouth breathers oppose stimulus spending when Corona Don was pushing for it ?
    People were.

    But just because you label 2 bills "stimulus" doesn't mean chit. I "stimulus" bill may be 90% stimulus and the next "stimulus" bill be 40% stimulus.
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    Originally Posted by Drinman View Post
    Great idea. However it irritates me as a conservative that republicans seem to love to bitch and moan as the minority party but when they are majority they don’t get anything done/
    We elected Trump to get that fixed and he made it worse.
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    Originally Posted by MMeadows11 View Post
    Why didn't you mouth breathers oppose stimulus spending when Corona Don was pushing for it ?
    Lots of people did. The government is not supposed to even be able to raise funds of this magnitude in the US but that ship has long sailed. The stimulus garbage is a forgone conclusion, they could at least be honest though - these are not 'stimulus' bills, they are special interest and foreign aid payments with a small portion going to citizens. If I go to the liquor store and get myself a case of beer and a handle of captain morgan, but also grab a gallon of milk, I don't tell people I went grocery shopping. That's called fraud.
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    Originally Posted by soaponarope1 View Post
    Lots of people did. The government is not supposed to even be able to raise funds of this magnitude in the US but that ship has long sailed. The stimulus garbage is a forgone conclusion, they could at least be honest though - these are not 'stimulus' bills, they are special interest and foreign aid payments with a small portion going to citizens. If I go to the liquor store and get myself a case of beer and a handle of captain morgan, but also grab a gallon of milk, I don't tell people I went grocery shopping. That's called fraud.
    Trump also signed these bills. So you're no better than Dems.
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    Originally Posted by MMeadows11 View Post
    Why didn't you mouth breathers oppose stimulus spending when Corona Don was pushing for it ?
    Everyone did, LMAO
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    Originally Posted by soaponarope1 View Post
    Lots of people did. The government is not supposed to even be able to raise funds of this magnitude in the US but that ship has long sailed. The stimulus garbage is a forgone conclusion, they could at least be honest though - these are not 'stimulus' bills, they are special interest and foreign aid payments with a small portion going to citizens. If I go to the liquor store and get myself a case of beer and a handle of captain morgan, but also grab a gallon of milk, I don't tell people I went grocery shopping. That's called fraud.
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    Trump also signed these bills. So you're no better than Dems.
    Where in my post did I mention dems, conservatives, or anyone being better than anyone else? The previous 'stimulus' bill was also a special interest and foreign aid payment bill with a tiny portion used to buy off citizens. As was the last, and the one before that. Remember the TARP 'shovels ready projects'? Yep, another special interest loaded ****fest.

    Like I said it's all a forgone conclusion at this point, they (both parties) can buy enough votes to pass whatever they want. I really just wish they'd be honest. Could you imagine the ****storm that would rain down upon you, for example, if you owned a business and grossly inflated your invoices by adding on all kinds of random payments with archaic cost codes? That's illegal. But apparently grossly mislabeling spending bills that cost like 7% of the entire economy and loading them with special interest payments and foreign aid is all good.

    If they were honest about what they are doing they could still pass it, because an overwhelming amount of people just want money from taxpayers now, but at least they wouldn't be intellectually insulting to people capable of independent thought.
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    Originally Posted by MMeadows11 View Post
    Why didn't you mouth breathers oppose stimulus spending when Corona Don was pushing for it ?
    I’ve always said the bill should be 1 page, double spaced, front only, with room for signatures.
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    Originally Posted by MMeadows11 View Post
    Why didn't you mouth breathers oppose stimulus spending when Corona Don was pushing for it ?
    We didn't have to geek......

    Maybe you forgot. Nancy pelosi held up the package for sevreal months until trump was out of office... she straight up admitted it...
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    Originally Posted by ChewYourFood View Post
    I’ve always said the bill should be 1 page, double spaced, front only, with room for signatures.

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    No more 5000 page legalese documents that would take a team of lawyers a week to decipher....
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    These kinds of bills are how the politicians settle the score with all the people who invested in them/found ways to funnel money to them off the books while in office.
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    As a Republican it makes me sad to that prior stimulus passed with every Democrat voting for it, and now the shoe is on the other foot, Republicans are trying everything to stall much needed relief getting to the American people, all for cheap political points. What has become of my party.
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    Amazing how it's impossible to pass a clean bill. This one is bailing out states and cities that were financial wrecks before Covid, like NY State and NYC.
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    As a Republican it makes me sad to that prior stimulus passed with every Democrat voting for it, and now the shoe is on the other foot, Republicans are trying everything to stall much needed relief getting to the American people, all for cheap political points. What has become of my party.
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