Want to trade Tacoma for F-150, a good decision?

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Yet little czech suka cant come up with a rebuttal for anything I posted. Blowing another forum member you little cuck. Over 26k posts on an internet forum and you cannot come up with schit. Little bitch

No one needs to post anything else. We already know you're wrong. You're the only one who hasn't accepted it yet you fking retard lmfao.

[SteveSanders]

No one needs to post anything else. We already know you're wrong. You're the only one who hasn't accepted it yet you fking retard lmfao.

Well little suka, quote and debunk what I have said. 26k poster on a internet forum you have no life so lets see it.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Well little suka, quote and debunk what I have said. 26k poster on a internet forum you have no life so lets see it.

Keep hitting the crack pipe brah.

[SteveSanders]

Keep hitting the crack pipe brah.

If I am a crackhead quote my posts and tell me where I went wrong, I'm all for it.

[JoshLV]

Whos mad? Are you? roids and all its understandable



Yeah you're a yota mechanic but they don't need any work because they dont break down, and your best friend is a ford mechanic. Strong cope brah. Full of schit. Manlet cope just like in all the truck groups. No yota brahs slash any pussy, the big dik chev/ram/ford guys got this.

Your neg says otherwise.

All I hear from you is that you’re the cuck that can’t work on his piece of **** truck himself so you go to the dealer and tell them how they should do it. Reading MotorTrend does not make you knowledgeable little guy.

[InPhase]

Of course you rarely hear about Tundra reliability issues. They sell so few of them that it would never get brought up.

I'd rather trade a little reliability for a truck that actually wasn't an outdated piece of junk like the Tundra. There are numerous reasons why hardly anyone buys them.

[JoshLV]

Of course you rarely hear about Tundra reliability issues. They sell so few of them that it would never get brought up.

I'd rather trade a little reliability for a truck that actually wasn't an outdated piece of junk like the Tundra. There are numerous reasons why hardly anyone buys them.

So you’d trade a little reliability by getting a Ford over a Tundra, but a Tundra is a piece of junk. So Ford is what then?

Jesus this thread brings out record level autism.

[nick5569]

Op if you are thinking of going ecoboost over the v8 I'm assuming you don't plan to do much hauling? (makes sense since you currently own a midsize)



However if you will use the truck often for hauling make sure you consider the effects of heat sink

if you're hauling loads up hills/canyons, especially in the summer, a bigger displacement n/a motor will greatly outperform a smaller displacement motor with a turbo/supercharger

also with more moving parts, more things can/will break and need to be serviced

just some food for thought

[SmillironS]

Honestly poor advice. The F-150 is more capable, just as reliable, has roughly the same depreciation, and is really just all around a better truck. Both the Tundra and the 5.0 F-150 will go 300k miles maintained easy. The 3.5 Ecoboost can probably make it there too but I'm 100% as certain with that engine but it will blow the doors off just about any other truck that isn't a Raptor

The 3.5 would walk away from the 6.2 powered overweight raptor.

[SteveSanders]

Your neg says otherwise.

All I hear from you is that you’re the cuck that can’t work on his piece of **** truck himself so you go to the dealer and tell them how they should do it. Reading MotorTrend does not make you knowledgeable little guy.

Were you quoting me or the cuck in the responses?

[SteveSanders]

Of course you rarely hear about Tundra reliability issues. They sell so few of them that it would never get brought up.

I'd rather trade a little reliability for a truck that actually wasn't an outdated piece of junk like the Tundra. There are numerous reasons why hardly anyone buys them.

Exactly

[InPhase]

So you’d trade a little reliability by getting a Ford over a Tundra, but a Tundra is a piece of junk. So Ford is what then?

Jesus this thread brings out record level autism.

Referring to tech, power, economy, comfort and the way it drives. So yes, the Tundra is ridiculously outclassed in all those areas ie it is junk.

Maybe if you weren't so autistic you could have figured out I wasn't just talking about reliability.

Just LOL at Toyota fan bois whose only comeback is hurr durr my reliability. Completely over looking the fact that Toyota's are usually the most bog average vehicles you can buy. They don't do anything else well enough to brag about.

[JoshLV]

ITT idiots try to justify having to pay $10k for new heads at 100k on their F150s. LMFAO!!!

[SteveSanders]

ITT idiots try to justify having to pay $10k for new heads at 100k on their F150s. LMFAO!!!

Nobody needs new heads at 100k. You're out of your league and obviously have no understanding of anything mechanical
'

[JoshLV]

Nobody needs new heads at 100k. You're out of your league and obviously have no understanding of anything mechanical
'

1. I just did the left bank head and valves on a 5.0. The right was done 11 months ago. The trucks are trash and you can’t even get parts for them. I had to get a used head off of eBay and machine it because they can’t make them fast enough. If your little brain has trouble believing that, call a Ford dealer and ask for a head. They can’t even give delivery dates because they’re so far out.

2.

3. You should stick to letting people with brains tell you what to buy. I would be shocked if you could change a cabin filter.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Just LOL at Toyota fan bois whose only comeback is hurr durr my reliability. Completely over looking the fact that Toyota's are usually the most bog average vehicles you can buy. They don't do anything else well enough to brag about.

...except we literally already said/admitted that ITT. But you're also too busy with the domestic's dick in your mouth to read and think.
Only you and you fukboi boyfriend can't get it through your heads.

Toyota lacks performance. Toyota lacks features. But Ford, nor ANY other manufacture - will touch Toyota reliability. You can plug your ears and live in your own world and deny it all you want. Literally ANY place that tracks stats on these things reflects what all of us in the thread are saying about Toyota reliability. To keep denying it just makes you look incredible fking dumb. A 1 minute Google search and you can prove to yourself how wrong you are.

[FrankGrimesJr]

With the argument between Ford and Toyota:

From my experience when there was a major problem with my Tacoma or 4runner, the dealer would always say they couldn't replicate it or that problem is normal because they didn't know how to fix it.

When I had Mustangs and when there was a problem the Ford dealers would know exactly how to fix it.

To me it seems like Toyota techs are not really "car guys" like the Ford techs.

[TBO1313]

This thread is full of autism. Of course you see more problems from F150s. Over the past 5 years Ford has sold 4.5 million F150s and Toyota has sold 600k tundras. They are both solid trucks but Ford has more power and features while tundras have slightly better reliability.

[akmerle]

This thread is full of autism. Of course you see more problems from F150s. Over the past 5 years Ford has sold 4.5 million F150s and Toyota has sold 600k tundras. They are both solid trucks but Ford has more power and features while tundras have slightly better reliability.

Accurate on all counts. They both make great trucks specific to their loyal customers.

Ford makes great power, good reliability, tons of features, and can be configured into a million different ways to best fit their buyer. They are the number one truck seller for a reason.

Toyota stays true to their conservative corporate culture. Extreme reliability with conservative / basic designs.

Typical Tundra owner (or Toyota owner in general) puts reliability above features, and keep their vehicles for a long time.

Typical Ford owner wants best and newest in features, design, power, and choices. And is willing to trade a bit of reliabilty for it, especially since they will be more likely to upgrade to a newer model with the next design cycle every 3-5 years.

Both are great options for each demographic of truck buyer.

I drive a 2019 F150 for work, and a 2018 Tundra at home. Both have fantastic strongpoints, and are great choices. Hell, can’t go wrong with any of the current full size offerings from Ford, GM, Ram, or Toyota.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

This thread is full of autism. Of course you see more problems from F150s. Over the past 5 years Ford has sold 4.5 million F150s and Toyota has sold 600k tundras. They are both solid trucks but Ford has more power and features while tundras have slightly better reliability.

...you do realize quantity sold has nothing to do with how they figure reliability numbers...right?
It doesn't matter how you look at it - Toyota beats the piss out of Ford as far as reliability. Even if you extrapolated the Tundra numbers to the F-150 numbers, they would still have less issues. lol

God damn, some of you can't even pretend to be half ass unbiased Or use your brain in the slightest.

"Slightly more reliable" isn't how anyone with a functioning brain who looks at the numbers would see it. Ford isn't even in the same ball field as Toyota as far as reliability. Don't care how much you want it to be untrue. it just isn't. Keep lying to yourselves though and claiming "weLl MoRe IssUeS cUZ ThEy seLL mOrE!" That has nothing do do with it. lol

Yeah, I'm sure literally EVERY reputable group in the industry who tracks these things is wrong and you guys are right though. They can't possibly be smart enough to know that Ford has more issues because they simply sell more.
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...-on-the-market

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-mos...he-road-today/

If you want like 50 more links saying the Tundra is number 1 in reliability with Ford somewhere around the middle at best usually, just let me know.

[jackamo2887]

Tundras may be more reliable but they're so dated looking

[i3oosted]

Op if you are thinking of going ecoboost over the v8 I'm assuming you don't plan to do much hauling? (makes sense since you currently own a midsize)



However if you will use the truck often for hauling make sure you consider the effects of heat sink

if you're hauling loads up hills/canyons, especially in the summer, a bigger displacement n/a motor will greatly outperform a smaller displacement motor with a turbo/supercharger

also with more moving parts, more things can/will break and need to be serviced

just some food for thought

This is quite the opposite from the truth.

LMAO just LMAO at Toyota doesnt sell a lot cause its reliable or Toyota doesnt want to sell a lot... I mean do you really believe this? Corollas and Camrys sell cause they are reliable... they are industry leaders. A business doesnt want to sell lots of product? Since when lol.

Toyotas dont sell because the competition offers a lot more options and updated features along with the pedigree these companies have like Ford and Chevy. I like Toyotas, I wanted to buy a Tundra, but I didn't want that craptastic interior(exterior looks great) and that boring ass engine they're still pumping out.

Come 2022 when the new Tundra comes out with v6 turbo, composite bed, spring rear, updated interior... I'll likely switch but I have a feeling Toyota will fuk up the exterior design like they have been doing.

[engj]

They don’t “sell like hot cakes” because people don’t need to buy new ones. Because, you know, they still run.

I work for a group of companies that buys hundreds of new trucks a year. Truck sales commercially are driven by value. You look at capital cost, operating costs, and total cost of ownership as well as reliability and parts availability.

Toyota sells 5% of full sized trucks because their product can not compete on these metrics. Full stop.

When I get my next F150 there is a 99% chance it'll be a 5.0 but those ecoboosts are really fukn reliable. The 2.7 especially. That thing is probably the best motor in a Ford since the 7.3 diesel

The Tundra vs F150 debate at this point is like Martin vs Taylor or Stratocaster vs Les Paul argument. They are both really, really good and some people like one over the other

Our latest fleet purchase was a lot heavier on ecoboost on the Ford side, we've had good reliability even in industrial use and with service bodies.

[FrankGrimesJr]

Browsing the F-150 forums there seems to be a lot of complaints about oil consumption with the 5.0L engine. Not many problems about the 2.7 or 3.5 EB engines.

So talk about the EB engines or turbos going out at 100k miles must be an old wives tale

[i3oosted]

Browsing the F-150 forums there seems to be a lot of complaints about oil consumption with the 5.0L engine. Not many problems about the 2.7 or 3.5 EB engines.

So talk about the EB engines or turbos going out at 100k miles must be an old wives tale

The eccoboosts are mostly sorted out now and good, it's Fords 10sp tranny thats god awful(wonderful when it works right, especially for towing).

[JoshLV]

I work for a group of companies that buys hundreds of new trucks a year. Truck sales commercially are driven by value. You look at capital cost, operating costs, and total cost of ownership as well as reliability and parts availability.

Toyota sells 5% of full sized trucks because their product can not compete on these metrics. Full stop.





Our latest fleet purchase was a lot heavier on ecoboost on the Ford side, we've had good reliability even in industrial use and with service bodies.

If this were the case Ford would be rock bottom. You literally cannot buy new parts for them. I’ve said this time and time again. Often they will just give you a NEW ENGINE because the parts aren’t available.

Unless you can talk mechanical specificity, I have nothing to say to the MotorTrend crew.
Tundras are boring. Reallllly fukn boring. But you don’t know a pigeon from a polar bear if you have even the slightest inclination to claim that a Ford is more reliable than a Toyota.

[nick5569]

This is quite the opposite from the truth.

Care to explain?


Keep in mind that if you have two engines of different displacements, in order to make equal horsepower, the smaller engine needs to compress the air more

the more air is compressed the hotter it gets... intercoolers are designed to help with this problem but they can only do so much

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Tundras may be more reliable but they're so dated looking

Pretty sure no one is denying that the Tundra is dated in pretty much every way.

But I guess that's also part of why they're so insanely reliable compared to other trucks.

[engj]

If this were the case Ford would be rock bottom. You literally cannot buy new parts for them. I’ve said this time and time again. Often they will just give you a NEW ENGINE because the parts aren’t available.

Unless you can talk mechanical specificity, I have nothing to say to the MotorTrend crew.
Tundras are boring. Reallllly fukn boring. But you don’t know a pigeon from a polar bear if you have even the slightest inclination to claim that a Ford is more reliable than a Toyota.

Keeping a nationwide parts inventory is pretty easy when you sell 100k of the same truck with no improvements every year for 10 years. And I dont even care if your parts have great availability if they cost 25% more.

'Reliability' is a feel-good metric but people make value judgements all the time. Any perceived increase in reliability is not worth paying too high a price for a very basic product. When you see millions of trucks sell every year and Toyota sells 5% of them it is undeniable. Better value would take away market share and Toyota hasnt, they have been going backwards with flat volume for a decade.

FYI I am not talking mechanical specificity or reviewing MotorTrend, we base decisions on actual costs. When we make fleet purchase decisions we review the last 5 years cost of ownership as an average. We track capital cost, maintenance and repair costs, dealer support, and residual values as part of our business across thousands of assets including a fleet of 800-900 pickups in the 1500 to 5500 size (using Ford/Dodge classification). The only truck that is a worse investment (in a half ton class) than a Tundra in our analysis are those stupid Nissan Cummins half tons. FWIW we dont look at Tacos.

You have posted your tradie credentials and I understand your tradie rage. But all I am hearing is you talking up a manufacturer that supports their product so well that if they cant send you a head they send you an entire engine. Ask any Nissan tech how long it takes to get a fuel filter for a baby Cummins before you put a new 'Calvin pissing on a Ford Oval' sticker on the back of your 06 Tundra.

[JoshSP1985]

Care to explain?


Keep in mind that if you have two engines of different displacements, in order to make equal horsepower, the smaller engine needs to compress the air more

the more air is compressed the hotter it gets... intercoolers are designed to help with this problem but they can only do so much

Has this been a documented problem anywhere? If mean you're not wrong but if the engineering takes care of it then it's not an issue.