Want to trade Tacoma for F-150, a good decision?

[TXBuddy]

All the pro small displacement turbo guys always leave this part out.

Not at all knocking turbo engines (have a couple huge fan) but N/A v8 longevity>small 6 cylinder turbo. Thats just a fact.

OP I would go f150 with the v8, there's not replacement for...

Not to mention the exhaust note is 100x better sounding

And It depends on how long you plan on keeping it. I'm not disagreeing. I had two V8 trucks and now an EB truck. I usually swap them around 100K.

[SteveSanders]

As stated in the long run a Tundra should be more reliable.

F150s are plenty reliable short term and long term. If Tundras were so great they would be selling like hot cakes all of these years, but they don't and for a reason.

Do disagree on depreciation and reliability. Tundra depreciation is about 10% higher than F150 after 5 years, and only gets higher as the years / mileage higher. This is directly related to their much higher reliability.

The Tundra as nor more or less reliable than the F150. Any depreciation differences is because Ford sells 100s of thousands more trucks per year.

If the OP wants a V8 truck that he will be keeping for a very long time (as him driving a 2006 hints to), the Tundra is the right choice as it is reliable as an anvil since it hasnt changed since 2007.

All domestic trucks are reliable and will go well into the high miles with ease.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

The Tundra as nor more or less reliable than the F150..

There's no way you actually believe this is true lmao. Tundra is literally king of all trucks for reliability lol.

[JoshLV]

F150s are plenty reliable short term and long term. If Tundras were so great they would be selling like hot cakes all of these years, but they don't and for a reason.




The Tundra as nor more or less reliable than the F150. Any depreciation differences is because Ford sells 100s of thousands more trucks per year.



All domestic trucks are reliable and will go well into the high miles with ease.

They don’t “sell like hot cakes” because people don’t need to buy new ones. Because, you know, they still run.

[TBO1313]

All the pro small displacement turbo guys always leave this part out.

Not at all knocking turbo engines (have a couple huge fan) but N/A v8 longevity>small 6 cylinder turbo. Thats just a fact.

OP I would go f150 with the v8, there's not replacement for...

Not to mention the exhaust note is 100x better sounding

When I get my next F150 there is a 99% chance it'll be a 5.0 but those ecoboosts are really fukn reliable. The 2.7 especially. That thing is probably the best motor in a Ford since the 7.3 diesel

The Tundra vs F150 debate at this point is like Martin vs Taylor or Stratocaster vs Les Paul argument. They are both really, really good and some people like one over the other

[JoshSP1985]

There's no way you actually believe this is true lmao. Tundra is literally king of all trucks for reliability lol.

This, and based on actual reporting and not anecdotes.

F-150 isn't even in the top 10. Tundra is firmly #1 and scored that way almost every year 8 out of 9.
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-mos...he-road-today/

Of course, there are plenty of factors to consider when making a decision more than just reliability.

Features, cost, capacity, style, resale, etc

[R3L3NTL3SS]

This, and based on actual reporting and not anecdotes.

F-150 isn't even in the top 10. Tundra is firmly #1 and scored that way almost every year 8 out of 9.
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-mos...he-road-today/

Of course, there are plenty of factors to consider when making a decision more than just reliability.

Features, cost, capacity, style, resale, etc

As someone who owns a 2017 Tundra and loves it...if you remove Tundra's insane reliability, the truck lacks in just about every way. Other manufactures out perform it and offer nicer features. No denying that. But if you can't admit Tundra is king for reliability, you're just lying to yourself lmao. And the truth is lots of people care about features, etc more than reliability.
Many people just buy extended warranty and not think twice or simply won't own the vehicle for long enough to care about reliability after 4 or 5 years anyway.

[Paul Kreul]

Ram Rebel all day long

[FrankGrimesJr]

Have a 17’ 3.5 ecoboost, went with ecoboost cause it’s tried and true with massive torque downlow where it matters in day to day driving and towing. These trucks can do 450’ish rwhp before things will start to go wrong from reading but the coyote motor can handle whipple s/c’s. 600rwhp+ on stock long blocks easy. So if you want all out hp go with the v8 but unless you add a whipple, the ecoboost has a much better powerband with street driving.

That's it from the 3.5 EB? I was hoping they can handle more than 450 rwhp.

[JoshSP1985]

As someone who owns a 2017 Tundra and loves it...if you remove Tundra's insane reliability, the truck lacks in just about every way. Other manufactures out perform it and offer nicer features. No denying that. But if you can't admit Tundra is king for reliability, you're just lying to yourself lmao. And the truth is lots of people care about features, etc more than reliability.
Many people just buy extended warranty and not think twice or simply won't own the vehicle for long enough to care about reliability after 4 or 5 years anyway.

Yep like I said more factors than just general reliability because like the previous-gen Tacoma a lot of that came from a lack of advanced features. I'm sure the Tunda redesign will take a hit if it's loaded with a bunch of new electronics. With that said hopefully they can/are learning from any electronics issues present in the current-gen Tacoma.

[MajorTendonitis]

I'd maybe look into a Tundra instead, but for american an F150 wouldn't be a bad idea. As stated in the long run a Tundra should be more reliable. However I think 2022 models are revamped and V6 only, maybe score a deal on a 2021 Tundra with a V8.

I think the tundra could be one of the ugliest trucks I’ve seen to date. No idea what the design engineers were smoking that day .

OP I’d stay domestic and go with a Ford all day long . I used to be a die hard GM fan , but after driving my Ford F-150 , I am hooked on Ford .
GM takes several years to innovate , like having an actual tail gate step, and you pay a fortune for them.

It’s hard to believe that I’m getting 7 mpg better mileage than my 2010 Mazda truck .
You can keep small trucks .Now I have tons of room, actual comfort , and vastly improved mileage now

[SteveSanders]

They don’t “sell like hot cakes” because people don’t need to buy new ones. Because, you know, they still run.

Strong cope. People in general just don't like them all that much and they pale in comparison to what the big three has to offer. The styling is another problem, they have the typical ugly yota look for the most part.

Tundra is literally king of all trucks for reliability lol.

Says who? and if they are so great they would be the top seller, but they haven't been able to put a dent in the big threes market share. In the truck world you see all kinds of Tundra owners with these cope arguments. Very few people buy them and for a reason.

All domestic trucks are kings of reliability.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Says who?

Says literally the statistics that track these things. God damn are you that fking dumb and hard headed?
"if tHey WerE so GrEaT"
Please. Stop. You look more stupid with every post you make.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Co workers 2020 F-150 transmission literally just went out Monday. Just over 13,000 miles on it.
That Ford quality. Not to mention, they refuse to stand behind their warranty/truck. It has been back to the dealer 4 or 5 times now for the transmission being 100% unsafe. Randomly wouldn't pull from a stop, etc.
Every time the dealer "couldn't replicate the issue". Monday it finally just 100% stopped pulling.

Everyone I know who has bought Ford or Chevy trucks in the last 3-4 years has had noting but mechanical issues out the ass with them.

[SteveSanders]

Co workers 2020 F-150 transmission literally just went out Monday. Just over 13,000 miles on it.

No it didn't, I have seen that type of comment by several butthurt angry tundra manlets.

That Ford quality. Not to mention, they refuse to stand behind their warranty/truck.

Yes they do.

It has been back to the dealer 4 or 5 times now for the transmission being 100% unsafe.

100% unsafe, you're not a mechanic or know anything about vehicles do you? It's obvious as day by the way you post here.

Randomly wouldn't pull from a stop, etc.
Every time the dealer "couldn't replicate the issue". Monday it finally just 100% stopped pulling.

Is that so? Sounds like the dealer had a incompetent mechanic, but you made this whole story up anyway or at the very least exaggerated it. Your "buddies" truck is ground zero for all fords, apperantly.

Everyone I know who has bought Ford or Chevy trucks in the last 3-4 years has had noting but mechanical issues out the ass with them.

No they didn't. Strong bitch fest pull that tampon out of your ass. You have also never owned a GM or a Ford.

[freeburn]

Strong cope. People in general just don't like them all that much and they pale in comparison to what the big three has to offer. The styling is another problem, they have the typical ugly yota look for the most part.



Says who? and if they are so great they would be the top seller, but they haven't been able to put a dent in the big threes market share. In the truck world you see all kinds of Tundra owners with these cope arguments. Very few people buy them and for a reason.

All domestic trucks are kings of reliability.

Tundras don't sell like that in the last few years cause the interior is dated as ****. If the tech would catch up it would be king of trucks in terms of longevity imo. But holy **** Toyota has some nerve charging what, they do for the Tacoma and tundra with such a **** tier infotainment and feature system.

[SteveSanders]

Tundras don't sell like that in the last few years cause the interior is dated as ****. If the tech would catch up it would be king of trucks in terms of longevity imo. But holy **** Toyota has some nerve charging what, they do for the Tacoma and tundra with such a **** tier infotainment and feature system.

They have never sold well even when first released. Ugly styling, poor fuel mileage, frame issues not just their **** bow flex design from years ago but rust(just settled a class action lawsuit), snapping camshafts, transmission problems, the list goes on. Go look at the Tundra groups. Far cry from what their copecel owners try to paint them as. Tundra owners get all uppity because they are usually the brunt of the joke among full size truck owners.

Old but funny



lulz shake dat ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gfPL0e1IIY&t=4s

This, and based on actual reporting and not anecdotes.

F-150 isn't even in the top 10. Tundra is firmly #1 and scored that way almost every year 8 out of 9.
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-mos...he-road-today/

Of course, there are plenty of factors to consider when making a decision more than just reliability.

Features, cost, capacity, style, resale, etc

These are LOL clickbait articles that pop up on sites. Some truths or none at all or they don't even get the info right.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

No it didn't, I have seen that type of comment by several butthurt angry tundra manlets.



Yes they do.



100% unsafe, you're not a mechanic or know anything about vehicles do you? It's obvious as day by the way you post here.




Is that so? Sounds like the dealer had a incompetent mechanic, but you made this whole story up anyway or at the very least exaggerated it. Your "buddies" truck is ground zero for all fords, apperantly.



No they didn't. Strong bitch fest pull that tampon out of your ass. You have also never owned a GM or a Ford.

I'll post the service records when they're done replacing the transmission.
Sorry you have Ford's dick so far in your mouth you're deprived of oxygen and can't think.

[SteveSanders]

I'll post the service records when they're done replacing the transmission.
Sorry you have Ford's dick so far in your mouth you're deprived of oxygen and can't think.

Thanks please do, also grab a pic of the odometer for reference. Your co workers truck is ground zero for fords. We need this data.

[akmerle]

They have never sold well even when first released. Ugly styling, poor fuel mileage, frame issues not just their **** bow flex design from years ago but rust(just settled a class action lawsuit), snapping camshafts, transmission problems, the list goes on. Go look at the Tundra groups. Far cry from what their copecel owners try to paint them as. Tundra owners get all uppity because they are usually the brunt of the joke among full size truck owners.

I’ll just leave this here for objective opinion, and keep in mind that there specific “engine” sub forums on the Ford pages that are 95% problem related topics, where as the Tundra forums have no such sub forums:

2014 - Current Tundra Forum:
https://www.tundras.com/forums/3rd-g...-2014-2021.27/

2015 - Current F150 forum:
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/

2007 - 2013 Tundra Forum:
https://www.tundras.com/forums/2nd-g...-2007-2013.26/

2009 - 2014 F150 Forum:
https://www.f150forum.com/f38/

[SteveSanders]

I’ll just leave this here for objective opinion, and keep in mind that there specific “engine” sub forums on the Ford pages that are 95% problem related topics, where as the Tundra forums have no such sub forums:

2014 - Current Tundra Forum:
https://www.tundras.com/forums/3rd-g...-2014-2021.27/

2015 - Current F150 forum:
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/

2007 - 2013 Tundra Forum:
https://www.tundras.com/forums/2nd-g...-2007-2013.26/

2009 - 2014 F150 Forum:
https://www.f150forum.com/f38/

WTF is all this? Random day to day topics? Why do most Tundra owners keep having to look in their pants to see if they still have a dick? The Tundra never sold well despite the fact the truck is apparently GOLD. Let that sink in.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

WTF is all this? Random day to day topics? Why do most Tundra owners keep having to look in their pants to see if they still have a dick?

I love how every time people present you with things you don't agree with, you can't take the Ford dick out your mouth long enough to catch your breath and look at it subjectively.

[SteveSanders]

I love how every time people present you with things you don't agree with, you can't take the Ford dick out your mouth long enough to catch your breath and look at it subjectively.

I presented many things you don't agree with and brought facts but all I got was your emotional responses. Break down all I have said and show me otherwise. Now you're rubbing off another forum member, As far as I am concerned if you had any real knowledge you would be debunking me and not blowing another forum member. Strong 20k plus posts on the internet brah.

Bottom line, the cucks push their Tundra product but nobody buys them,

[jeffl1980]

WTF is all this? Random day to day topics? Why do most Tundra owners keep having to look in their pants to see if they still have a dick? The Tundra never sold well despite the fact the truck is apparently GOLD. Let that sink in.

Bottom line, the cucks push their Tundra product but nobody buys them,

Did you catch your wife screwing another guy in the back of a crew max Tundra by chance?

Toyota never marketed the Tundra to sell at high volumes. They also had no intentions on dominating the full size truck market....hence no diesel, dually or HD.

But Toyota does have the best selling SUV, the best selling mid size truck and the best selling sedan. Why is that? Their definitely not the cheapest.

The Tundra also hasn’t had an redesign since 2007. If Tundra is going with a TTV6 which would be easily tuneable, reliable and better MPG, I could see them increasing their sales by quite a bit.

[SteveSanders]

Did you catch your wife screwing another guy in the back of a crew max Tundra by chance?

NOPE

Toyota never marketed the Tundra to sell at high volumes. They also had no intentions on dominating the full size truck market....hence no diesel, dually or HD.

Yes they did but they knew they couldt crush the tall big dik american trucks.

But Toyota does have the best selling SUV, the best selling mid size truck and the best selling sedan. Why is that? Their definitely not the cheapest.

Corn syrup, wal mart addicts they do well with, hardly a compliment.

The Tundra also hasn’t had an redesign since 2007. If Tundra is going with a TTV6 which would be easily tuneable, reliable and better MPG, I could see them increasing their sales by quite a bit.

If that's their stupidity so be it. I don't blame them, their baby dicked schit just don't fly out of Asia. It's always cucks or descendants of cucks who rock Tundras.

[JoshLV]

Strong cope. People in general just don't like them all that much and they pale in comparison to what the big three has to offer. The styling is another problem, they have the typical ugly yota look for the most part.



Says who? and if they are so great they would be the top seller, but they haven't been able to put a dent in the big threes market share. In the truck world you see all kinds of Tundra owners with these cope arguments. Very few people buy them and for a reason.

All domestic trucks are kings of reliability.

Hm I’m a Toyota Mechanic and my best friend is a Master Mechanic at Ford down the street from me. I guess that’s who says. Go to a Ford dealer and look out back and tell me what you see. Do the same for Toyota. I’ll wait.

You literally have zero idea what you’re talking about. It’s sad because you think you actually know something. It’s kinda like an ******* not knowing he’s an ******* but with you it’s stupidity.

[JoshLV]

NOPE



Yes they did but they knew they couldt crush the tall big dik american trucks.



Corn syrup, wal mart addicts they do well with, hardly a compliment.



If that's their stupidity so be it. I don't blame them, their baby dicked schit just don't fly out of Asia. It's always cucks or descendants of cucks who rock Tundras.

It’s hilarious how mad you are. You are actually furious about what trucks people drive yet you know no facts as to why you are so mad. You are peak stupidity and I feel sorry for you.

[SteveSanders]

It’s hilarious how mad you are. You are actually furious about what trucks people drive yet you know no facts as to why you are so mad. You are peak stupidity and I feel sorry for you.

Whos mad? Are you? roids and all its understandable

Hm I’m a Toyota Mechanic and my best friend is a Master Mechanic at Ford down the street from me. I guess that’s who says. Go to a Ford dealer and look out back and tell me what you see. Do the same for Toyota. I’ll wait.

Yeah you're a yota mechanic but they don't need any work because they dont break down, and your best friend is a ford mechanic. Strong cope brah. Full of schit. Manlet cope just like in all the truck groups. No yota brahs slash any pussy, the big dik chev/ram/ford guys got this.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

It’s hilarious how mad you are. You are actually furious about what trucks people drive yet you know no facts as to why you are so mad. You are peak stupidity and I feel sorry for you.

Poor guy can't think correctly. Got the Ford cock too far down his throat.
When he thinks he's the only one who's right in the entire thread, while everyone says differently, that probably says enough.

[SteveSanders]

Poor guy can't think correctly. Got the Ford cock too far down his throat.
When he thinks he's the only one who's right in the entire thread, while everyone says differently, that probably says enough.

Yet little czech suka cant come up with a rebuttal for anything I posted. Blowing another forum member you little cuck. Over 26k posts on an internet forum and you cannot come up with schit. Little bitch