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    I don't have a political side. In case that's not clear, I am not a Democrat.
    Who’d you vote for?
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    Who’d you vote for?
    America.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    America.
    Cant even man up and say you voted for Biden, fukking lol the bar gets lower everyday.
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    America.
    So this is how you cope with the shame
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    Cant even man up and say you voted for Biden, fukking lol the bar gets lower everyday.
    It's just the truth. I weighed the pros/cons and selected the least damaging person. You're too busy driving king cab trucks, screaming at libs on the street to do the analytics.
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    I heard recently- giving reassignment surgery and hormones to people with gender dysphoria is like curing an anorexic with liposuction.
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    Doctors aren't as smart as people think. When I was younger I would get chest infections every second week and be prescribed a **** ton of drugs that never did anything over and over, then one day I stopped breathing through my mouth and it stopped completely and cured my asthma also. Never got told it was a bad thing
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    It's just the truth. I weighed the pros/cons and selected the least damaging person. You're too busy driving king cab trucks, screaming at libs on the street to do the analytics.
    you literally voted for the guy in favor of this bullchit, from the party that pushes it - then came here and blamed people who defend 1A/2A for not pushing back against this...

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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    It's just the truth. I weighed the pros/cons and selected the least damaging person. You're too busy driving king cab trucks, screaming at libs on the street to do the analytics.
    What did orange man do to your little vagina that is worse than injecting hormones into our children? Lmao, tf?
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    What did orange man do to your little vagina that is worse than injecting hormones into our children? Lmao, tf?
    Biden isn't pushing to shoot hormones into children; he is rather neutral, which is bad, but he's not actively pushing for it. Trump was pushing for civil war. I can understand why a guy like you would be for civil war, but I don't think it's best for the overall health of the country.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Biden isn't pushing to shoot hormones into children; he is rather neutral, which is bad, but he's not actively pushing for it. Trump was pushing for civil war. I can understand why a guy like you would be for civil war, but I don't think it's best for the overall health of the country.
    ^ Gents, a peak into the mind of a mental midget. Give Biden a pass because he's not actively pushing for injecting children with chit, but insert some made up civil war narrative. Youre a delusional leftist if you think talk about "re-education camps" for Trump voters or the 24/7 media blast that all trump voters need to be put on some "list" didnt push for civil war. Youre as pathetic as the far right wing militia nutjobs that thought the same thing.

    Also, pretending this civil war narrative is true(LMAO), I'd take civil war over having the future of twitching autistic children that are cutting off their genitals and committing suicide.
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    ^ Gents, a peak into the mind of a mental midget. Give Biden a pass because he's not actively pushing for injecting children with chit, but insert some made up civil war narrative. Youre a delusional leftist if you think talk about "re-education camps" for Trump voters or the 24/7 media blast that all trump voters need to be put on some "list" didnt push for civil war.
    I didn't give him a pass. Where did I give him a pass?

    Re-education camps for Trump voters...? Wtf are you on, son?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    I didn't give him a pass. Where did I give him a pass?

    Re-education camps for Trump voters...? Wtf are you on, son?
    Oh, you only watch leftist news. The left has a large movement that thinks anyone who voted for Trump should be put in a camp for re-education. Check it out, I look forward to your single standard and your bashing of the left.
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    Oh, you only watch leftist news. The left has a large movement that thinks anyone who voted for Trump should be put in a camp for re-education. Check it out, I look forward to your single standard and your bashing of the left.
    Really? If I only watch leftist news, then how come I've never heard of this large push by the left?

    I know plenty of Trump voters who are normal, but yes, there is a subset of them that are straight-up a cult. They don't need to be placed into re-education centers, though.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Really? If I only watch leftist news, then how come I've never heard of this? I know plenty of Trump voters who are normal, but yes, there is a subset of them that are straight-up a cult. They don't need to be placed into re-education centers, though.
    Yes, really. Many of the people who endorsed Biden and vice-versa are proponents of this. But hey, orange man not in office so, no firefights in the streets because we were def going to civil war in the next 4 years if he was!

    If you truly cared about a civil war, youd see the media is the largely at fault and not just, "Trumpers." Injecting our kids with hormones is not better than orange man. Just like the anti-Trumper's prediction that WW3 would start in 2016.
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    It is sad how often I come in contact with information lately that leaves me gobsmacked at the acceptance and endorsement of positions held by people who have lost their damned minds.

    This is the most balanced article I've found on the issue; magazine out of the UK:

    https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/m...female-to-male

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    Transsexuality is a talking point like never before, and a glance at the figures sheds some light on why. The number of children, in particular, being referred to the Tavistock and Portman Foundation Trust’s gender identity development service —the NHS service through which all UK candidates for a sex change under 18 are funnelled—is up from 77 in 2009 to 2,590 in 2018-9. But what’s almost as dramatic as the headline numbers are developments in who is transitioning. In November 2017, the Guardian reported that 70 per cent of referrals were female. This was a surprising statistic because only 10 years previously the overall ratio had been more like 75 per cent males seeking to be female, and indeed it is still the gender traffic in that direction that dominates the increasingly noisy, divisive and panic-inflected debate.

    Recently, though, alarm bells have begun to ring among a handful of psychiatric professionals about the number of teenage girls arriving at the Tavistock’s door and the nature of their treatment. Right now a legal case is being brought by Susan Evans, a former psychiatric nurse at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust, alongside a parent of an autistic female child wishing to transition to be male, arguing that children are not legally capable of consenting to a gender transition. November last year saw the launch of the Detransition Advocacy Network, a UK group numbering several hundred members. And in January, the NHS announced an independent review into puberty suppressants and cross-sex hormone treatments, to be chaired by Hilary Cass, formerly president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health.
    “Over the last five to 10 years there has been a complete change in the profile of the people presenting,” says Evans. “These children believe that they are in the wrong body and they are very persistent and forceful in saying that they want a solution—and that that is physical intervention. But I’ve been in psychiatry for 40 years and when people are in a distressed state they often narrow things down and fix on one thing as a solution, putting pressure on clinicians for a magic bullet.”

    In psychiatry “generally,” he says, the aim is to “open things out,” and take the time to ask questions about “what is going on.” After all, “adolescence is a moving picture. We move through experimenting with different identities as our bodies change and our role in society changes. An individual has to tolerate a -certain amount of confusion and anxiety and we should be able to help with that through therapy.” But when it comes to “the Tavistock’s gender identity service,” he says, “this work has not been done… the entire area has become unnecessarily politicised.”
    Anna Hutchinson, who worked at the Tavistock until 2017 as a clinical psychologist and who is now in private practice, isn’t convinced. She believes there is an uncritical “affirmation” of gender dysphoria and the Tavistock is not as “cautious” as it should be. “The young people are making sense of themselves in the best way they can,” she tells me. “They often aren’t aware of anything other than the affirmative approach for managing gender dysphoria.” If they heard “different points of view,” they might be better placed to make “balanced and informed decisions about what they need,” she suggests. She describes a rush to treat: “Affirmation involves a quick assessment and then you get them into the medical system, on to hormone blockers if this is age appropriate. The next step is cross-sex hormones with their irreversible effects. Nearly 100 per cent make that journey once they start on the blockers.”
    Then there is a lot of content about the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) making the case that the organization is actually promoting transsexulality.

    Along with the influence of WPATH it is, I think, the missing piece of the jigsaw that reveals how the “affirmation” approach to gender reassignment has become the norm in the UK.

    “Different issues may have been conflated, despite the best of intentions,” explains Hutchinson. She argues that a “false equivalence” has been drawn between pro-active conversion therapy for sexuality, where clinicians attempt to alter patients’ sexual responses, and talking people into becoming more comfortable with their bodies. Non-medical therapy for people with gender dysphoria has come to be seen as effectively trying to argue them out of identifying as transgender, as people were once convinced that they shouldn’t be gay. But the distinction between medical acts and medical omissions has been lost somewhere here, a serious matter in a profession whose traditional starting point has been “First, do no harm.”

    “We generally don’t talk about the relevance of the incredibly high incidence of autism spectrum disorder among these new, young, female patients,” says Hutchinson. “Autism often also means black-and-white thinking and struggling with the onset of puberty, so we have to ask the question ‘can this simply be a coincidence?’” And can it be a coincidence, either, that the stampede to transition is so concentrated among girls and young women?
    Sure looks like a lot of young women who have anxiety, depression, OCD, ADHD, and/or autism are being medically altered.
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    Yes, really. Many of the people who endorsed Biden and vice-versa are proponents of this. But hey, orange man not in office so, no firefights in the streets because we were def going to civil war in the next 4 years if he was!

    If you truly cared about a civil war, youd see the media is the largely at fault and not just, "Trumpers." Injecting our kids with hormones is not better than orange man. Just like the anti-Trumper's prediction that WW3 would start in 2016.
    Links to actual endorsements of internment camps for Trump voters?

    Yeah, I'm already aware of the "enemy of the people" mantra about the press that's been drilled into your head.

    I didn't say injecting kids is better than orange man bad. How many kids do you think are wanting to get injected and whose parents are going to allow it? You probably think it's like 50% of kids, but preventing civil war that affects everyone > less than a tenth of a percent.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Links to actual endorsements of internment camps for Trump voters?

    Yeah, I'm already aware of the "enemy of the people" mantra about the press that's been drilled into your head.

    I didn't say injecting kids is better than orange man bad. How many kids do you think are wanting to get injected and whose parents are going to allow it? You probably think it's like 50% of kids, but preventing civil war that affects everyone > less than a tenth of a percent.
    Lmao. You really think the media plays no role in inciting division. You actually watch CNN and think, "Welp, it's Trumps fault for giving them so much ammo." Truly amazing to witness such partisanship.

    What about Democrat officials that push for their supporters to go and find Trump supporters in public spaces and accost them? Have you condemned any of this? Wait, let me guess, I should just know and that you dont have to state it? This shtick is old.

    You should just stick with your sleazy nonsense that Biden isnt actively pushing for this crap so it's OK, at least its more direct and we know where you really stand. There's no excuse for this even if its <50% of the population.
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    Lmao. You really think the media plays no role in inciting division. You actually watch CNN and think, "Welp, it's Trumps fault for giving them so much ammo." Truly amazing to witness such partisanship.

    What about Democrat officials that push for their supporters to go and find Trump supporters in public spaces and accost them? Have you condemned any of this? Wait, let me guess, I should just know and that you dont have to state it? This shtick is old.

    You should just stick with your sleazy nonsense that Biden isnt actively pushing for this crap so it's OK, at least its more direct and we know where you really stand.
    The media definitely came harder at Trump than others. It's to be expected when he attacks them as he does. They didn't rile up his base, though - that would be Trump.

    As for Biden actively pushing for hormone injections, give me a link.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    The media definitely came harder at Trump than others. It's to be expected when he attacks them as he does. They didn't rile up his base, though - that would be Trump.

    As for Biden actively pushing for hormone injections, give me a link.
    The media riled up both sides. One day you'll understand this.

    Read the post, i said he wasn't actively pushing for it. Read.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Biden isn't pushing to shoot hormones into children; he is rather neutral, which is bad, but he's not actively pushing for it. Trump was pushing for civil war. I can understand why a guy like you would be for civil war, but I don't think it's best for the overall health of the country.
    Trump was pushing for civil war...... actively???

    Don't suppose you have a link do you?
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    Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
    Trump was pushing for civil war...... actively???

    Don't suppose you have a link do you?
    Lmao, I saw that too, but didnt feel like hearing about how Trump said, "standby" or some Charlottesville quote like hes got some secret language code for people to attack that nobody knows about.
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    Lmao, I saw that too, but didnt feel like hearing about how Trump said, "standby" or some Charlottesville quote like hes got some secret language code for people to attack that nobody knows about.
    In before Trump says "Take the country back" lol.
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    Same reason why doctors agree that breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

    They don’t feel like arguing with what’s already out there.
    its not out there I doubt most people agree with pushing transgenderism on children
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    our trusted medical leaders who said gathering in crowds is bad for the virus, supported and participated in BLM riots and rallies.
    Lin Wood and CNN whats the difference
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    Thanks - I'll be here all week.

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    our trusted medical leaders who said gathering in crowds is bad for the virus, supported and participated in BLM riots and rallies.
    And they wonder why so many are skeptical of the vaccine
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    what about speaking against the left wing agenda when it’s promoting something dangerous like fat acceptance, making it easier to spread STDs and trans children? If it’s not their job to concern themselves with these things, whose job is it?
    Yes. Medical leaders in this country totally don’t speak out against obesity.

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