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    Originally Posted by MMeadows11 View Post
    Why do trumppublicans always find something to whine about ?

    There's always something that, to them, is just........NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!
    Shut up bitch. Wear two masks, and your goggles, and your shower cap. Wbo am I kidding, you're probably like Wincel and never leave mommy's residence.
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    LOL, fascism. This is capitalism. If that company wants to protect it's employees and/or customers from a serious public health crisis and you don't like it, work for someone else. You can screech about fascism when/where the government requires it, but companies can do what they feel best for their business.
    Unless it's Christian bakers refusing to bake cakes that celebrate sodomy, in which case the full force of the government shall be brought down on them in order to smear their motives, bankrupt their business, and potentially land them in jail.

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    Originally Posted by MiscInformed View Post
    Unless it's Christian bakers refusing to bake cakes that celebrate sodomy, in which case the full force of the government shall be brought down on them in order to smear their motives, bankrupt their business, and potentially land them in jail.

    LOL.

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    Gays are part of a protected class. Same for race, religion, sex, etc. Are you 16 or something?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Gays are part of a protected class. Same for race, religion, sex, etc. Are you 16 or something?
    So gays won't be forced to get the vaccine?

    You do understand that a Christian being forced to bake a sodomy cake is in violation of his religious principles, don't you?
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    Originally Posted by MiscInformed View Post
    So gays won't be forced to get the vaccine?
    Is this a serious question? I really can't tell if your obtusity is intentional or not.
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    Originally Posted by MiscInformed View Post
    So gays won't be forced to get the vaccine?

    You do understand that a Christian being forced to bake a sodomy cake is in violation of his religious principles, don't you?
    That's not how protected classes work. You can't refuse to hire a person because they are gay. You can refuse to hire a gay person if they don't meet your pre-employment requirements like taking a vaccine.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    That's not how protected classes work. You can't refuse to hire a person because they are gay. You can refuse to hire a gay person if they don't meet your pre-employment requirements like taking a vaccine.
    when it comes to employment law the vaccine is not going to be cut and dry. I know the board my GF is on has already decided that it is not worth the all but guaranteed lawsuit of trying to force their employees.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    when it comes to employment law the vaccine is not going to be cut and dry. I know the board my GF is on has already decided that it is not worth the all but guaranteed lawsuit of trying to force their employees.
    Being morally wrong should weigh as well I hope
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    That's not how protected classes work. You can't refuse to hire a person because they are gay. You can refuse to hire a gay person if they don't meet your pre-employment requirements like taking a vaccine.
    Are trannies protected classes as well?
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    Are trannies protected classes as well?


    Why, what protection do you want?
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    when it comes to employment law the vaccine is not going to be cut and dry. I know the board my GF is on has already decided that it is not worth the all but guaranteed lawsuit of trying to force their employees.
    It is cut and dry.

    A company following public policy guidelines would be very difficult to pursue a claim against; I posted the information yesterday, but here is the link again. An employer following federal guidance would have very little exposure unless deviating from that guidance.

    https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/what-you-s...other-eeo-laws

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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    It is cut and dry.

    A company following public policy guidelines would be very difficult to pursue a claim against; I posted the information yesterday, but here is the link again. An employer following federal guidance would have very little exposure unless deviating from that guidance.

    https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/what-you-s...other-eeo-laws

    The vaccination portion is near the bottom.


    What do you expect from the cult that thinks every remedy involves filing a lawsuit (That usually ends up failing)?
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    Hopefully most companies follow suit. If you want to endanger society and prolong the pandemic by not getting vaccinated, enjoy homelessness. Srs.
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    LOL @ anyone who gets this "vaccine". You will all be dead within five years.
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    Originally Posted by ApeXXXPredator View Post
    LOL @ anyone who gets this "vaccine". You will all be dead within five years.
    I guess then they'll be plenty of jobs available for you, and you can stop crashing on friends' couches?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    I guess then they'll be plenty of jobs available for you, and you can stop crashing on friends' couches?



    To be fair, he promised to clean up after himself.
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    Hopefully most companies follow suit. If you want to endanger society and prolong the pandemic by not getting vaccinated, enjoy homelessness. Srs.
    People want to get back to life being normal but those same people also adamantly refuse to take a vaccine that will help us achieve that goal of getting back to normal.

    Its like we’re living in an episode of South Park.
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    Originally Posted by GiveHerBills View Post
    People want to get back to life being normal but those same people also adamantly refuse to take a vaccine that will help us achieve that goal of getting back to normal.

    Its like we’re living in an episode of South Park.
    Except it doesn't do that...


    Experts say people can still spread and even develop COVID-19 after getting a vaccine.
    They note the immunity from the vaccine doesn’t begin to emerge until at least 12 days after inoculation.
    They add the vaccine doesn’t prevent coronavirus infection. It helps protect against serious illnesses.
    Experts advise people who get vaccinated to continue wearing a mask, washing their hands, and maintaining proper physical distancing.

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    Except it doesn't do that...


    Experts say people can still spread and even develop COVID-19 after getting a vaccine.
    They note the immunity from the vaccine doesn’t begin to emerge until at least 12 days after inoculation.
    They add the vaccine doesn’t prevent coronavirus infection. It helps protect against serious illnesses.
    Experts advise people who get vaccinated to continue wearing a mask, washing their hands, and maintaining proper physical distancing.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...e-what-to-know
    Yes it does. The question was if the vaccines were going to stop transmission entirely. There was never a question to if they would reduce transmission. Laymen like you couldn’t understand the difference. Other than the very rare vaccines that target toxins specifically, if a vaccine reduces disease severity it is going to reduce transmissibility.

    There is evidence that both AstraZeneca and Pfizer’s vaccines significantly reduce transmission, which is no surprise.

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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    Except it doesn't do that...


    Experts say people can still spread and even develop COVID-19 after getting a vaccine.
    They note the immunity from the vaccine doesn’t begin to emerge until at least 12 days after inoculation.
    They add the vaccine doesn’t prevent coronavirus infection. It helps protect against serious illnesses.
    Experts advise people who get vaccinated to continue wearing a mask, washing their hands, and maintaining proper physical distancing.

    https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...e-what-to-know
    Of course health officials are still urging you to be careful even after being vaccinated, 95% is not 100% and nobody is saying the vaccine will work flawlessly.

    But you’re absolutely crazy if you think the vaccine won’t at the very least curb this outbreak to a degree. The article you posted is weird; it pushes the clickbaity “you can still get infected even after you have the vaccine” line but then goes on to give examples of people that got infected post-vaccination who only had 1 dose and got infected only a ~week after that dose. You obviously need 2 doses and it takes a couple weeks to work.
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    Originally Posted by Reliance012 View Post
    Yes it does. The question was if the vaccines were going to stop transmission entirely. There was never a question to if they would reduce transmission. Laymen like you couldn’t understand the difference. Other than the very rare vaccines that target toxins specifically, if a vaccine reduces disease severity it is going to reduce transmissibility.

    There is evidence that both AstraZeneca and Pfizer’s vaccines significantly reduce transmission, which is no surprise.

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    Of course health officials are still urging you to be careful even after being vaccinated, 95% is not 100% and nobody is saying the vaccine will work flawlessly.

    But you’re absolutely crazy if you think the vaccine won’t at the very least curb this outbreak to a degree. The article you posted is weird; it pushes the clickbaity “you can still get infected even after you have the vaccine” line but then goes on to give examples of people that got infected post-vaccination who only had 1 dose and got infected only a ~week after that dose. You obviously need 2 doses and it takes a couple weeks to work.
    “The vaccine is very effective in preventing symptomatic disease,” said Dr. Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in Maryland.

    “But is it effective at preventing asymptomatic disease? There’s an open question about how much the vaccine is going to decrease transmission. It will take time to do those studies,” he told Healthline.
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    “The vaccine is very effective in preventing symptomatic disease,” said Dr. Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in Maryland.

    “But is it effective at preventing asymptomatic disease? There’s an open question about how much the vaccine is going to decrease transmission. It will take time to do those studies,” he told Healthline.
    Doubling down I see. Are you people immune to evidence?
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    Doubling down I see. Are you people immune to evidence?
    There literally is no evidence...

    This vaccine hasn't even been through full clinical trials. I love how you CONSTANTLY ignore that FACT...
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    Originally Posted by Reliance012 View Post
    Doubling down I see. Are you people immune to evidence?
    Yes. They are.
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    There literally is no evidence...

    This vaccine hasn't even been through full clinical trials. I love how you CONSTANTLY ignore that FACT...
    Try scrolling up. Click the link. That’s a study on asymptomatic disease and transmission. It’s called evidence. Any other questions?
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    It is cut and dry.

    A company following public policy guidelines would be very difficult to pursue a claim against; I posted the information yesterday, but here is the link again. An employer following federal guidance would have very little exposure unless deviating from that guidance.

    https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/what-you-s...other-eeo-laws

    The vaccination portion is near the bottom.
    That's interesting because they hadn't previously mandated other vaccines because of the issues they could potentially face so I wonder if this will be handled differently due to the pandemic aspects.

    That said - there is going to be a lawsuit over an employer mandating it somewhere. And it is interesting that the healthcare facilities are not mandating it yet even for the nurses on the covid wings.
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    Well seeing as how I had covid already and didn't get any severe symptoms I think I'm gonna pass on the vaccine. It's funny because now the CDC is saying that after 90 days if you are exposed to somebody with covid and you have the vaccine then you have to quarantine still. Some of you guys on here are probably the same morons I see on the river trails wearing a mask and gloves.
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    Originally Posted by ItsJamesthefin View Post
    Well seeing as how I had covid already and didn't get any severe symptoms I think I'm gonna pass on the vaccine. It's funny because now the CDC is saying that after 90 days if you are exposed to somebody with covid and you have the vaccine then you have to quarantine still. Some of you guys on here are probably the same morons I see on the river trails wearing a mask and gloves.
    I really curious as to what percentage of adults we see get vaccinated and when it starts slowing down where there is no longer a wait to get a vaccine.
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    Originally Posted by ItsJamesthefin View Post
    Well seeing as how I had covid already and didn't get any severe symptoms I think I'm gonna pass on the vaccine. It's funny because now the CDC is saying that after 90 days if you are exposed to somebody with covid and you have the vaccine then you have to quarantine still. Some of you guys on here are probably the same morons I see on the river trails wearing a mask and gloves.
    So teach.
    What does your sleep, supplements/vitamins/ meals/ and workouts look like?
    What are you doing that 500,000 are not?
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    So teach.
    What does your sleep, supplements/vitamins/ meals/ and workouts look like?
    What are you doing that 500,000 are not?
    Sleep lmao I'm a firefighter. While I sleep fine at home. At work its hit or miss depending on if we get any calls.
    Supplements- multi (orange triad), vitamin k2, 15k d3
    Diet-avoid gluten, eat whole foods, and try to eat gut friendly foods.
    Workouts- full-body 3 times a week.

    I'm 29 years old while this virus is dangerous for the overweight and elderly somebody like me shouldn't be affected as bad.

    Us as a society need to start eating more non processed foods and doing things like strengthening our immune system. Isnt funny how there is so much autoimmune diseases now a days. Inflammation is a huge problem in our society and why people getting sick. Tom Brady is 43 years old and avoids any inflammation causing foods and he is in perfect health. Those are things we need to be doing.
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