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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Lol if you think a $50/hr attorney is going to bury a corp in paperwork. They already have attorneys on retainer. They will destroy OP and his feeble attempts at playing the legal game.
    Again it's about wasting their time and resources. Your freelance lawyer is going to be alot cheaper then theirs.

    You can get a freelance lawyer to submit the proper paperwork and then you show up and represent yourself. You'll be left with 2-3 billable hours for your responsibility vs however many hours you decide to make this last for their responsibility.

    It's about defiance at every level, every step of the way.

    There is a good chance you could even win but again I stress that it is not important. The only important thing is getting the paper-work filled out and showing up.
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    Originally Posted by sfgiants13 View Post
    There is a difference between a fully approved vaccine and an emergency use authorization. One you can legally require. The other you can’t.
    I love how you guys adamantly hold the position "employers have the right to make employees do "x" in their roles" right up until "X" is something you don't like.
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    Originally Posted by StinkholePatrol View Post
    Again it's about wasting their time and resources. Your freelance lawyer is going to be alot cheaper then theirs.

    You can get a freelance lawyer to submit the proper paperwork and then you show up and represent yourself. You'll be left with 2-3 billable hours for your responsibility vs however many hours you decide to make this last for their responsibility.

    It's about defiance at every level, every step of the way.

    There is a good chance you could even win but again I stress that it is not important. The only important thing is getting the paper-work filled out and showing up.
    Again, that money is already retained - they couldn't give two chits about how it's spent. Time for you to gain some life experience, son.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Again, that money is already retained - they could give two chits about how it's spent. Time for you to gain some life experience, son.
    ^^^

    Stinkhole Patrol has zero fcking clue. Plus "there's a good chance you could even win". LOL wanna bet?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Again, that money is already retained - they could give two chits about how it's spent. Time for you to gain some life experience, son.
    So your position is that defiance is not effective?


    I disagree.


    I believe it is and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
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    Originally Posted by StinkholePatrol View Post
    So your position is that defiance is not effective?


    I disagree.


    I believe it is and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
    You'll end up defiantly standing in line for a welfare check. Defiantly thinking your defiance shouldn't leave you defiantly unemployed.
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    Which liability? Are you saying the side effects from being vaccinated (like a person develops cancer from it etc.), or liability from terminating employment?

    I'm assuming the former because I addressed the latter. I have a meeting right now but the short answer is, we are not administering the vaccine as a work related activity, the vaccine days we have are not mandatory.

    We only require they be vaccinated to perform their job, which is a choice they make.

    I can post the guidelines we followed on that aspect as well, but part 2 employers liability of workers compensation handles this; gross negligence would not apply in a global pandemic situation.
    Yes, termination of employment. Not sure how you are arguing groce negligence however for a virus that is far less deadly than the flu..do you require the flu vaccine as well, are you at least being consistent...?

    Not trying to be an ass here, I appreciate all the information, but if you are going to base your policies out of risk assessment, than statistically the flu is far deadlier than Covid
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    Originally Posted by Weightaholic View Post
    You'll end up defiantly standing in line for a welfare check. Defiantly thinking your defiance shouldn't leave you defiantly unemployed.
    As long as you pay for it.


    The have-nots are here. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Not even the hospitals in Indiana that I've seen are requiring the vaccine. Like the flu shot I'll abstain until I'm retirement age.

    Not even the military requires service members to get it.

    lmao at employers requiring an experimental emergency approved vaccine.
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    Originally Posted by StinkholePatrol View Post
    As long as you pay for it.
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    Originally Posted by StinkholePatrol View Post
    So your position is that defiance is not effective?


    I disagree.


    I believe it is and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
    Defiance in this situation? No, it's not effective.

    They'll just fire him due to not complying and he would lose money in legal fees while they go on with their lives, giving no chits about OP. Welcome to the real world, son.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Defiance in this situation? No.

    They'll just fire him due to not complying and he would lose money in legal fees while they go on with their lives, giving no chits about OP. Welcome to the real world, son.

    That is the goal of the have-not.

    We have nothing at stake here.

    You’re telling me not to defy and not to resist or you’ll remove the shackles of slavery bound around me?

    I can then collect unemployment and use it to fund legal fees to disrupt my enemies?

    I can also then collect welfare and use it to supply myself with food, shelter and supplies?

    Don’t threaten me with a good time.



    It’s time to become have-nots. What can they take from you when you have nothing left to lose?
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    Originally Posted by StinkholePatrol View Post
    That is the goal of the have-not.

    We have nothing at stake here.

    You’re telling me not to defy and not to resist or you’ll remove the shackles of slavery bound around me?

    I can then collect unemployment and use it to fund legal fees to disrupt my enemies?

    I can also then collect welfare and use it to supply myself with food, shelter and supplies?

    Don’t threaten me with a good time.



    It’s time to become have-nots. What can they take from you when you have nothing left to take?
    Not even sure what you're saying, but going on unemployment and welfare is not a strategy of the "haves."
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    How are you going to prove in court where you contracted the virus? Thousands of people in NY supposedly got it without ever leaving their apartment. But yes...doctors, corporations, and drug companies can all be exempt from the repercussions of their actions (including horrible effects from the vaccine) but for some reason you seem to think people can’t be exempt and should all be forced to take a questionable shot with questionable effectiveness for a questionable amount of time and questionable short & long term effects.



    Like I said, the programming of the left has been mind-blowing.

    lol being forced to take a vaccine and have legal liability if you dont take it but the mega pharmaceutical company has legal immunity if anything happens to you from the vaccine. You have complications and have to go to the ER? YOU have to pay for it and pay YOUR deductible.


    lol at libcucks claiming to be for the poor and for the working class. Want legal liabilities for broke ass plebs but legal protection for billion dollar corporations. cucked and brainwashed.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Not even sure what you're saying, but going on unemployment and welfare is not a strategy of the "haves."
    Let me explain more clearly:

    I am opting out of society

    I will use your money to fund it.

    While opting out I will use every opportunity to disrupt and disobey. Legally of course.

    That includes using cheap freelance Lawyers to start lawsuits that I can then represent myself in to conserve funds.

    I will buy commodities like silver and rice with your money. I will share it with other have-nots.

    I will have nothing so that I can do anything.

    I am a have-not. I’m not afraid anymore, the path is clear.
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    Originally Posted by StinkholePatrol View Post
    Let me explain more clearly:

    I am opting out of society

    I will use your money to fund it.

    While opting out I will use every opportunity to disrupt and disobey. Legally of course.

    That includes using cheap freelance Lawyers to start lawsuits that I can then represent myself in to conserve funds.

    I will buy commodities like silver and rice with your money. I will share it with other have-nots.

    I will have nothing so that I can do anything.

    I am a have-not. I’m not afraid anymore, the path is clear.
    Hey-don't forget to invest in some land somewhere as well, so you can grow your own food.
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    That's good. You can copy and paste. For a chap with FAS, you're doing quite well at life. You can (mostly) get your shoes on the right feet, have found the internet and can count to 22 on your fingers and toes. Well done!
    His state isn't locked down, and it never really was. How about you? Boot-licking bitch.
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    How much mileage will you be able to get using the BLM line; I see it thrown around here as often as humanly possible?
    Why the Black Lives Matter Protests Didn’t Contribute to the COVID-19 Surge.

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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    lol being forced to take a vaccine and have legal liability if you dont take it but the mega pharmaceutical company has legal immunity if anything happens to you from the vaccine. You have complications and have to go to the ER? YOU have to pay for it and pay YOUR deductible.


    lol at libcucks claiming to be for the poor and for the working class. Want legal liabilities for broke ass plebs but legal protection for billion dollar corporations. cucked and brainwashed.


    You seem to be confusing liberals with Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky). You are forgiven.
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    Let me explain more clearly:

    I am opting out of society

    I will use your money to fund it.

    While opting out I will use every opportunity to disrupt and disobey. Legally of course.

    That includes using cheap freelance Lawyers to start lawsuits that I can then represent myself in to conserve funds.

    I will buy commodities like silver and rice with your money. I will share it with other have-nots.

    I will have nothing so that I can do anything.

    I am a have-not. I’m not afraid anymore, the path is clear.
    Cool. Good luck with that. We were all idealistic when we were kids.

    Your options moving forward are: a) conform; b) become a leech on society with "principles," or c) go into business for yourself.

    I chose option C, myself, but good luck with option B.
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    Originally Posted by StinkholePatrol View Post
    That is the goal of the have-not.

    We have nothing at stake here.

    You’re telling me not to defy and not to resist or you’ll remove the shackles of slavery bound around me?

    I can then collect unemployment and use it to fund legal fees to disrupt my enemies?

    I can also then collect welfare and use it to supply myself with food, shelter and supplies?

    Don’t threaten me with a good time.



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    Originally Posted by Mercworx View Post
    My body my choice.
    True. No one is forcing you to get a vaccine, and no one is forcing you to get an abortion. Glad we could have this talk.
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    My body my choice.
    The vaccine should never be mandatory. That's far different that being a condition of employment.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    The vaccine should never be mandatory. That's far different that being a condition of employment.
    idk im cool with ppl forcibly injecting these retards
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    The vaccine should never be mandatory. That's far different that being a condition of employment.
    Take this experimental vaccine or be fired......yeah, no potential lawsuit there.....
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    idk im cool with ppl forcibly injecting these retards
    Experts seek to allay COVID vaccine hesitancy in Black Americans.

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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Oh and concerning this thread, your employer has every right to demand you get a vaccine. If you infect the clients/customers while you're working, they're liable. So get your vaccine or get a new job. And don't try to sign up for unemployment.. you'd be a massive socialist, commie, hypocrite if you do.
    I donno about that one, that's quite a slippery slope to walk down, there are legitimately thousands of vaccines, if you can mandate one you can mandate them all. I for one don't think saying the government should be able to force small businesses to close and then only allow certain businesses to operate and if you want to work for them you have to take X amount of arbitrary injections at X time according to their schedule.

    What's to stop this from changing to the government only allowing certain businesses to operate and only if they schedule vaccines and from you can't work or shop if you don't get your pokes, which will eventually turn into people starving which can just be conveniently censored from all forms of communication as these things could eventually be tracked. And then further what's to stop that from going from vaccines you need to government says you need XYZ genome change via RNA, take your stab or starve like the last guys.

    Like legitimately how can you justify the removal of rights and freedoms for the purpose of safety when the removal of them through out history almost inevitably leads to the abuse of power and the loss of safety. It basically has never off the top of my head lead to a better outcome for society when speaking from the POV of the general population. Moving towards more centralized totalitarian power almost always only benefits those with political power at the expense of everyone else. This is all fine and dandy and great when the party is doing things you like, but as soon as those rights go away and they do something you don't like all of a sudden you don't get to have a say anymore and suddenly you realize your opinion is worth jack chit. That's why it's important to not support this kind of stuff... It really doesn't lead down a nice looking rabbit hole and it's been done before quite a few times.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Take this experimental vaccine or be fired......yeah, no potential lawsuit there.....
    There is not a potential for lawsuits in most states....Do I sense the misc rp heading towards unions and workers rights?

    I don't know every states employment laws but since covid has been classified a direct threat, having an fda approved vaccine, many employees are limited in recourse. You would need to demonstrate negligence, then get past workers compensation laws, which are pro vaccination conditions and then prove employer negligence. This is a huge hurdle and would be extremely difficult to prove negligence when every government agency and doctor is advising people to get vaccinated.

    The only recourse would be violating an employment agreement that favored the employees, such as a union. You would need to argue "accommodations" for not being vaccinated, but I posted the EEOC guidance earlier which again backs employers.

    I would venture to say it would be easier for an employer to hold an employee liable, for not becoming vaccinated or lying about vaccination, than an employer being liable for requiring an fda approved vaccine for a direct threat as a condition of employment. An unvaccinated employee is a threat to other employees safety and customers; an employer is burdened with providing a safe work and business environment.
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    It's not mandatory for those serving in the military, and technically they're government property.
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