You're right OP, I vote we let them try again
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03-02-2021, 10:52 AM #31
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03-02-2021, 11:01 AM #32
Germany benefited from new tactics developed during the blitzkrieg that the soviets hadn't seen before. The soviets were busy moving their factories to the east, while fighting a delaying action with orderly retreats. Basically they bought time by giving up territory. This had the extra benefit of stretching German supply lines to untenable lengths. Once that winter hit and the eastern factories were up and running, the German ability to push east was over. If Germany wanted to win in the USSR, they should have arrived as liberators, particularly in the Ukraine. They would have had much support from people who were persecuted by Stalin. Instead, they acted like conquerors. I loathe communists and the USSR, but it was mostly they who defeated the Germans. We helped with Lend-Lease while their factories were being moved and we helped with the Western Front pressure in 1944-1945, but the soviets lost a whole generation of military-aged men in the war. Lots more Soviets died at the hands of Germans than Jews. Its odd to me how Hollywood, who otherwise worships communists, completely omits that fact from their movies. Up to 26 million Soviets died during WWII, including 11 million soldiers.
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03-02-2021, 11:07 AM #33
EDIT: ^^^Wizard
Sure, in raw strength, OP is probably right, but their Blitzkrieg strategy absolutely wrecked for 2 years though.“The Misc. is a stone-faced Uncle Sam with Popeye’s forearms and a cocked pistol in each hand. It’s a screeching bald eagle with a foreign Bad Thing in its talons. It’s everything that defines America’s bro culture, magnified and weaponized. But it’s deeper than that.“
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03-02-2021, 03:32 PM #34
It was not just the blitz, they had been building up for years and repeatedly violated the Treaty of Versailles restricting what they could build or buy.
You had *******s like Sweden sealing their own fate by selling them bearings for tanks.
The other countries were also still licking wounds and did not expect warfare to change so much. If you have them a glimpse of what was in store and two years it may not have happened or been completely different. Let Russia start earlier without those initial losses and they would have handled germany single handedly.
I just checked. They believe Germany had a war economy six years before the invasion of Poland.
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03-02-2021, 03:35 PM #35
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03-02-2021, 04:08 PM #36
I wish someone just bought a few paintings from Hitler when he was younger.
He was just a miscer incel that got caught up in a movement. Buy a few paintings, tell him he is a good artist, and maybe all of that could have been avoided. Instead they gave him the young wincel treatment and he unleashed hell.
Treating people with decency would not stop all the world's problems, but who know how many mass killings and world events would have been changed if people just realized the kid they are giving a hard time may take it out on the world.
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03-02-2021, 05:30 PM #37
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03-02-2021, 07:03 PM #40
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03-02-2021, 10:24 PM #44
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