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    Thoughts on mcdoubles for bulking

    Assuming I'm not going way over on calories is it okay to have a couple mcdoubles a few times a week while bulking?

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    390 cal, 20g fat, 32g carb, 22g protein
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    Clarify what you mean by ‘is it OK’?

    OK in what context?

    Weight gain?

    Health?
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    Assuming I'm not going way over on calories is it okay to have a couple mcdoubles a few times a week while bulking?

    Each has

    390 cal, 20g fat, 32g carb, 22g protein
    I ate them pretty regularly on my first serious bulk and gained a ton of mass but still got fat. That said, I wasn't counting and was basically just inhaling food. Wouldn't recommend anyone mimic that and the McDoubles shouldn't be to blame.

    IIRC they do have trans fat though. Might want to keep that minimal.
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    Assuming I'm not going way over on calories is it okay to have a couple mcdoubles a few times a week while bulking?

    Each has

    390 cal, 20g fat, 32g carb, 22g protein
    Each has 8 gram saturated fat.

    Ideally you keep your saturated fat under 10% of total calories. 5% may be even better.

    On 3000 kcal 10% would be ~33 gram saturated fat.
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    Don’t dreamer bulk bruh. I made that mistake and having to cut an enormous amount of fat to get looking good again. Eat good food but more of it.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Clarify what you mean by ‘is it OK’?

    OK in what context?

    Weight gain?

    Health?
    both how bad will the quality of the weight be, and how unhealthy would it be?
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    both how bad will the quality of the weight be, and how unhealthy would it be?
    Depends on the quality of your training, the rest of your diet and a ton of other factors like genetics, sleep and recovery.
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    both how bad will the quality of the weight be, and how unhealthy would it be?
    There’s no difference in the ‘quality’ of weight gain... bodyfat is bodyfat and muscle is muscle. It’s not gunna be ‘McMuscle’ just because you bought the food from McDonalds.

    The main issue is that you’d be eating several servings of processed red meat several times a week... that is not ideal for heart or digestive health.

    Why not just buy your own leaner cuts of meat and make them at home?
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    both how bad will the quality of the weight be, and how unhealthy would it be?
    It depends on how it fits in with your overall diet, not the McDoubles themselves. Also, do they not have triples anymore?

    You might want find it interesting to watch Supersize Me btw.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    There’s no difference in the ‘quality’ of weight gain... bodyfat is bodyfat and muscle is muscle.
    I'm guessing he means how much of the weight gain is muscle and how much is fat.

    ps. I think McDonalds uses 100% beef.
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    Originally Posted by tbonestake View Post
    Don’t dreamer bulk bruh. I made that mistake and having to cut an enormous amount of fat to get looking good again. Eat good food but more of it.
    its hard to get over 4k calories of good food daily.
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    Originally Posted by air2fakie View Post
    It depends on how it fits in with your overall diet, not the McDoubles themselves. Also, do they not have triples anymore?

    You might want find it interesting to watch Supersize Me btw.
    they still have the triples
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    its hard to get over 4k calories of good food daily.
    Peanut butter would be better then mcdoubles IMO
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    I'm guessing he means how much of the weight gain is muscle and how much is fat.

    ps. I think McDonalds uses 100% beef.
    True it is 100% beef, but given McDonald’s reputation for poor sanitary conditions and general business practices, I would venture to guess they’re not using the freshest, highest quality ingredients.

    Also they probably cook them at very high temps causing a higher accumulation of PAHs
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    Originally Posted by tbonestake View Post
    Peanut butter would be better then mcdoubles IMO
    Yup.

    Two slices of whole wheat bread, 1 serving of PB, I banana...

    500 calories right there in a tasty sandwich
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    Why not just buy your own leaner cuts of meat and make them at home?
    I do it just fills me up a lot, and not ideal if I'm in a hurry.
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    they still have the triples
    One triple a few times a week is prob a "healthier" option than 2 mcdoubles a few times a week, relatively speaking. But again, it's really the overall diet.
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    As for the quality of weight gain: overfeeding on high saturated fat is far from ideal.
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    Originally Posted by tbonestake View Post
    Don’t dreamer bulk bruh. I made that mistake and having to cut an enormous amount of fat to get looking good again. Eat good food but more of it.
    doesn't matter what he eats, it's not a dreamer bulk if he's in a slight surplus - at least i'm assuming that's what he meant by "not going way over on calories"

    i've also experienced an eager bulk (not dreamer, just thought 500 surplus as a ~20% bf beginner was the thing) and cutting all that fat was horrible
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    I do it just fills me up a lot, and not ideal if I'm in a hurry.
    Why not prep them in advanced and freeze them?
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    I do it just fills me up a lot, and not ideal if I'm in a hurry.
    Look, you like McDoubles, I get it - it's not so much about the bulk alone. If you're honest about it to yourself and aware it's not "optimal" then it's fine - adjust intake or remove entirely based on results.

    You're prob healthier than most people who eat 2 mcdoubles a few times/week.
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    Have you considered the Dog Food Diet. It's nutritionally complete and doesn't have any artificial ingredients. I gained about 6 pounds of lean body mass in 3 months with it, although I ended up in the ICU. What's the dog food diet? You just keep a baggie of dry dog food in your jacket pocket and eat the morsels throughout the day. It's protein and fat from beef, pork and chicken. Carbs come from grains like corn, potatoes and rice. It's pretty much a dry form of steak and potatoes or chicken and rice. Now you might think it's poisonous, but that is far from the case. Our pets have been eating dry dog food for decades with no ill effects. And our pets are probably in better shape than we are. You are probably wondering why I ended up in the ICU. I got hit by a car when I was sitting in the street licking my balls.
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    Have you considered the Dog Food Diet. It's nutritionally complete and doesn't have any artificial ingredients. I gained about 6 pounds of lean body mass in 3 months with it, although I ended up in the ICU. What's the dog food diet? You just keep a baggie of dry dog food in your jacket pocket and eat the morsels throughout the day. It's protein and fat from beef, pork and chicken. Carbs come from grains like corn, potatoes and rice. It's pretty much a dry form of steak and potatoes or chicken and rice. Now you might think it's poisonous, but that is far from the case. Our pets have been eating dry dog food for decades with no ill effects. And our pets are probably in better shape than we are. You are probably wondering why I ended up in the ICU. I got hit by a car when I was sitting in the street licking my balls.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Each has 8 gram saturated fat.

    Ideally you keep your saturated fat under 10% of total calories. 5% may be even better.

    On 3000 kcal 10% would be ~33 gram saturated fat.
    I don't really understand why SF is talked about in terms of % of total intake. Isn't less almost always "better" when it comes to blood lipids? Why is it ok for someone on 3k calories to eat more SF than someone on 2k when, regardless of total intake, more SF is worse for blood lipids. I mean I know that someone on higher cals can get more of the other "heart healthy" fats and Omega 3s, but doesn't raising SF raise LDL regardless of how many other healthy fats are in your diet?
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Yup.

    Two slices of whole wheat bread, 1 serving of PB, I banana...

    500 calories right there in a tasty sandwich
    This is what I tend to rely on when I'm pressed for time, except for that bullchit about "1 serving of PB". If you actually only put one serving of PB on your sandwich, then you sir live a life of pain.

    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    As for the quality of weight gain: overfeeding on high saturated fat is far from ideal.
    Ik there's at least one study I've read that backs you up on this, but I'm very skeptical of this idea. Why would the levels of SF, all other things being equal, result in more fat gain? Did they actually control for overall fat intake, protein, carbs, etc.?
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    Originally Posted by Strawng View Post

    This is what I tend to rely on when I'm pressed for time, except for that bullchit about "1 serving of PB". If you actually only put one serving of PB on your sandwich, then you sir live a life of pain.
    A serving = however much I want =o)
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    A serving = however much I want =o)
    Just put PB on the Mcdoubles, like they do at 50s diners
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    Originally Posted by Strawng View Post
    that bullchit about "1 serving of PB". If you actually only put one serving of PB on your sandwich, then you sir live a life of pain.

    Right?!
    Not to mention 1 serving is 2 tbsp...which is a scraped level tbsp. Who does that?? I'm a 5-6 serving scooper!!

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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    Just put PB on the Mcdoubles, like they do at 50s diners
    Actually, PB on burgers tastes pretty damn good.

    I tried is back when I still ate red meat, and it was awesome.

    tried it again on a veggie/plant-based burger, and it's still super tasty. That and a fried egg or avocado.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    A serving = however much I want =o)
    Dasitmane!!!
    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    Just put PB on the Mcdoubles, like they do at 50s diners
    I've never heard of that but damn that sounds way too extra to me. Did people in the 50s eat that?!
    Originally Posted by smokinal View Post
    Right?!
    Not to mention 1 serving is 2 tbsp...which is a scraped level tbsp. Who does that?? I'm a 5-6 serving scooper!!
    People who hate joy. It's like psychopaths who have a bowl of cereal with milk and actually measure out a leveled cup of cereal from the box....sheer fuking madness! & I'm with you 100%. If I'm making a pb sandwich, I'm fitting as much damn PB as I can get on the bread.
    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Actually, PB on burgers tastes pretty damn good.

    I tried is back when I still ate red meat, and it was awesome.

    tried it again on a veggie/plant-based burger, and it's still super tasty. That and a fried egg or avocado.
    Idk man, that sounds like flying too close to the sun to me lol
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    Originally Posted by Strawng View Post
    Dasitmane!!!

    I've never heard of that but damn that sounds way too extra to me. Did people in the 50s eat that?!

    People who hate joy. It's like psychopaths who have a bowl of cereal with milk and actually measure out a leveled cup of cereal from the box....sheer fuking madness! & I'm with you 100%. If I'm making a pb sandwich, I'm fitting as much damn PB as I can get on the bread.

    Idk man, that sounds like flying too close to the sun to me lol
    I’m telling you man, it ain’t bad!

    I’m not saying better than without it, but it’s an interesting twist.

    It’s like me with pineapple on pizza... I wouldn’t order an entire pie with pineapple, but a single slice ain’t bad!
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