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    “The U.S. Air Force Just Admitted The F-35 Stealth Fighter Has Failed”

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    another failure under biden
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    another failure under biden
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    This plane never had a chance of being good and it was obvious from the start.

    A swiss army knife isn't 20 good things. It is 20 things it can kind of do with out being good at anyone of them.

    What I really want to know is who ordered the production capabilities of the F22 dismantled.
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    I can see the need to replace the aging f-16s as you guys export them as well? Are the ones Turkey and Pakistan and any other nation that uses the F-16 have a neutered version then the ones the USA uses? Did the f-22 even see any action in the last 20 years? Seems like the f-16s are still above the planes other nations around the world are using?
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    From what I understand the F35 is like the 3090 in the gaming world, yea its the best on paper, but real life not so much
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    lol when they say a jet like this can perform "close air support" well
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    haha that's ok tho right taxpayer dollars well spent

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    To put some context on this issue that some may not understand, the Air Force acquisition model for the future is going to change soon to support rapid technology development & production. This is because of China. It's a rapid development model that was utilized during the Cold War to enable us to constantly field competitive and cutting edge aircraft, in low quantities.

    With that said, the F-35 was a product of the post-Cold War acquisition environment where there wasn't a necessity to field cutting edge aircraft every 5-10 years. Instead, every legislator wanted a piece of the production puzzle in their state (because the revenue & jobs could be politicized) and that in turn funnels MIC political donations back to the politicians. Anyways, they had to divy it out, and also split it out to other countries to make them more dependent on the US for cutting edge aircraft. There's a lot more to it than this, but you get the jist.

    Anyways, F-35 tech isn't technically outdated, but the acquisition of it is. At the rate they want to develop & produce aircraft within the next few years (already demonstrated within the 6th Gen NGAD thread I posted last year), the F-35's production timeline would have us mass producing aged technology in an environment that embraces cutting edge development to maintain an asymmetric advantage RE: China.

    Hope the above is somewhat clear.
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    FRP (Full Rate Production) was predicted to continue into 2033 and potentially beyond.

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    You can imagine how this throws a wrench into what I expanded on above.
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    Lol at China copying our failure lmao
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    Lol at China copying our failure lmao
    China's had keys to our defense industrial base for a while, it certainly didn't stop with the F-35... they have a lot more resources dedicated to reaching parity with us than we do dedicated to maintaining a competitive edge.

    Why else do you think Congress finally decided to start pushing bipartisan support for rapid modernization (under Trump) within the DOD? Being lazy with America's hegemony put us in this situation. I guess you could almost say we sat and waited for this moment for the last few decades. I don't really care to fault our government for it, there's nothing wrong with good spirited competition. Gives us some drama to keep our lives exciting for the next 50-75 years.
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    UK bought this chit too. Though we have the Eurofighter Typhoon.
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    Just massive private companies pissing away public money as usual.
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    F22 still moggs every other plane including this piece of shyt
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    F22 still moggs every other plane including this piece of shyt
    True. But wasn't the f-35 failure known quite some time ago? They were just trying really hard to salvage it since they spent so much money on it...
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    meh more interested in AI drone wingmen, something i think f35 is poised to take full advantage of. you wont need but a few hundred f35s if each one is linked to 5 20+G capabale AI drones. just have the f35 up there giving commands and assigning targets.
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    Bill Maher mentioned this last night.
    1.7 trillion to replace the F-16 and nada, just wasted resources.
    sums it up a thread will start off promising and then turn into name calling..
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    haha that's ok tho right taxpayer dollars well spent

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    That’s what you’re gonna get when you try to water down the F-22. That’s all this thing is. Of course it’s gonna function like a POS.
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    It doesn’t matter, the F-22 rules over all other aircraft.

    Thank God we didn’t export them to Israel who would have welcomed the Chinese with a loud shalom after they sell our **** to them.
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    Originally Posted by Hypernation View Post
    That’s what you’re gonna get when you try to water down the F-22. That’s all this thing is. Of course it’s gonna function like a POS.
    More that they tried to make one platform to do it all. The f-16 performs quite a bit worse than the f-15, but they are still functional.

    I am glad they didn't succeed in dismantling the warhogs, but they do desperately need an upgrade.

    Originally Posted by BalkanPrince View Post
    It doesn’t matter, the F-22 rules over all other aircraft.

    Thank God we didn’t export them to Israel who would have welcomed the Chinese with a loud shalom after they sell our **** to them.
    Except we can't make more. Someone in the Obama admin had all of the production capabilities for it scrapped.
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    this is across the board on all military platforms. the newer ones are heavier, more complex and take longer to both build and repair than the last gen
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    You Muricancels are extremely dumb.

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    Tell me that that is a joke or photoshop? Please.
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    Wonder how many brown lives were killed with that.
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