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    Warriors messed up not taking Lamelo Ball

    Seriously why would they decide to take a big over someone that would fit the Warriors system perfectly. Dude will be a future star
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    Meh they needed a big more, and Wiseman still has potential.
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    Originally Posted by BigElephant View Post
    Meh they needed a big more, and Wiseman still has potential.
    Slow footed centers don’t work in the nba anymore so nah. Dude a Hassan Whiteside at best
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    Slow footed centers don’t work in the nba anymore so nah. Dude a Hassan Whiteside at best
    Wiseman has insane potential. Warriors are not sweating not getting LaMelo.
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    wiseman is still pretty fkn solid, and next year with klay back they're going to be a top team in the west


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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    Slow footed centers don’t work in the nba anymore so nah. Dude a Hassan Whiteside at best
    He's anything but slow footed. He can't rebound for chit though.
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    Why would u draft Melo when your backcourt is Steph and Klay??? This is not even close to the Pistons missing out on OG Melo.
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    Originally Posted by woadito View Post
    Why would u draft Melo when your backcourt is Steph and Klay??? This is not even close to the Pistons missing out on OG Melo.
    Exactly, the Warriors have a long way to go before they need to worry about getting new star shooters, but they desperately needed a good tall center and Wiseman is an amazing talent in that regard.
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    Originally Posted by woadito View Post
    Why would u draft Melo when your backcourt is Steph and Klay??? This is not even close to the Pistons missing out on OG Melo.
    Easy

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    Wiseman does not fit in the Warriors offense. Why do you think they moved him to the bench?? They play better without him
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    Easy

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    Wiseman does not fit in the Warriors offense. Why do you think they moved him to the bench?? They play better without him
    You do know Melo sucks at defense, right?
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    Wisemen's per 36 numbers are insane. IMO - He has a higher ceiling and fills a position of need. I'm confident the Warriors would take Wisemen over Melo if they had to do it over again.
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    Originally Posted by dyee4613 View Post
    Wisemen's per 36 numbers are insane. IMO - He has a higher ceiling and fills a position of need. I'm confident the Warriors would take Wisemen over Melo if they had to do it over again.
    OP doesn't know what he's talking about. He said Wiseman was slow footed. So you can already tell he doesn't watch games.
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    Originally Posted by markkillerings View Post
    You do know Melo sucks at defense, right?
    He isn’t that bad on defense and he would be decent on the warriors. Wiseman is horrible on defense that’s why Looney starts over him. Dudes basketball IQ is also questionable
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    He isn’t that bad on defense and he would be decent on the warriors. Wiseman is horrible on defense that’s why Looney starts over him. Dudes basketball IQ is also questionable
    I've watched some of his games, he actually really isn't that bad, he has some pretty good hands that can bother players and can be really sneaky sometimes. I don't think he's going to be a Lonzo defensively but he's still a kid so he has some potential there.

    It's hard to say in hindsight really, both are 19 years old so they have a lot of room to grow. I don't know if scouts really expected Melo to be where he is it at right now.

    They've actually been really bad with their traditional starting line-up and you can't call it a small sample size because it is their most often used lineup versus their second most used. Just switching Wiseman with Looney the Warriors go from a -16 net rating to a +25 net rating. could be just Wiseman really trying to learn and develop chemistry with the Warriors team.

    You also can't put Wiggins and Wiseman together. Offensively more than anything that has been a huge disaster. They just don't have the chemistry together but Wiseman still has time.
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    You do know Melo sucks at defense, right?
    warriors would be hard to keep up with melo on the team

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    Melo is a beast. The Warriors had to nail this pick as Steph has like 2 years left of Steph at superstar level; looks like they totally blew it.
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    He isn’t that bad on defense and he would be decent on the warriors. Wiseman is horrible on defense that’s why Looney starts over him. Dudes basketball IQ is also questionable
    Again, it's clear you don't watch the games. You said Wiseman was slow footed. Wiseman isn't horrible on defense. And Looney starts over him because Looney is an experience playoff proven veteran. Going into the draft, the consensus was that there were players who were going to be more NBA ready than Wiseman. Centers take longer than other positions to develop. And that's what we're seeing. The reason the Warriors took him regardless was because they thought he could contribute and also because they coveted his potential. Wiseman's value at this moment is worth more than it was before the start of the season. LaMelo is good, but Wiseman is going to prove to be a better player for the Warriors going forward.
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    Originally Posted by markkillerings View Post
    Wiseman's value at this moment is worth more than it was before the start of the season. LaMelo is good, but Wiseman is going to prove to be a better player for the Warriors going forward.
    Bruh, if they drafted Lamelo they could probably swing him for Lavine straight up right now. That's a championship team if you add Lavine.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Bruh, if they drafted Lamelo they could probably swing him for Lavine straight up right now. That's a championship team if you add Lavine.
    Warriors could get Lavine now if they want with the assets they have. But Lavine does not make them a championship team. A backcourt of Curry and Lavine is hell offensively but will face the same issues a backcourt of Lillard and CJ has for years. Also, where does Lavine fit when Klay gets healthy? Moving Klay to small forward is going to make the Warriors really small. And I don't think ownership is going to pay a ridiculous amount of money for a roster of Steph/Lavine/Klay/Draymond/Looney when Lavine's gets a new contract.

    If the Warriors want, they could trade for Beal. But again, same issues with Lavine despite being a better player. Warriors also could have traded for Harden if they wanted. But they didn't. Warriors want to maintain a defense first mentality. But it's just a matter of what moves they make this summer. They have the assets.
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    Originally Posted by markkillerings View Post
    Warriors could get Lavine now if they want with the assets they have. But Lavine does not make them a championship team. A backcourt of Curry and Lavine is hell offensively but will face the same issues a backcourt of Lillard and CJ has for years. Also, where does Lavine fit when Klay gets healthy? Moving Klay to small forward is going to make the Warriors really small. And I don't think ownership is going to pay a ridiculous amount of money for a roster of Steph/Lavine/Klay/Draymond/Looney when Lavine's gets a new contract.

    If the Warriors want, they could trade for Beal. But again, same issues with Lavine despite being a better player. Warriors also could have traded for Harden if they wanted. But they didn't. Warriors want to maintain a defense first mentality. But it's just a matter of what moves they make this summer. They have the assets.
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    just get Wiggins the fuk out, they'll be aight
    Wiggins isn't really a problem. His trajectory is a better Harrison Barnes. That's good enough for a role player on a championship team. The issues are if Klay and Draymond are going to be close to what they were. Steph for most of the season has been playing near MVP levels. If the Warriors think they need more because those two aren't going to cut it, then everybody is on the table except Steph Curry and probably Klay. Right now, they have salaries they can use to make moves like Kelly Oubre's and Kevon Looney's. Those two alone, added with the Wolves 2021 draft pick, which is looking good because the Wolves are horrible, and other incentives could get them Lavine. But like I said, does he make them a championship team? I doubt it.

    Warriors have the salaries and assets to make moves this season or this summer.
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    just get Wiggins the fuk out, they'll be aight
    Why? Wiggins has been awesome. Why would you get rid of one of the best players on a roster devoid of talent?

    Originally Posted by markkillerings View Post
    Wiggins isn't really a problem. His trajectory is a better Harrison Barnes. That's good enough for a role player on a championship team. The issues are if Klay and Draymond are going to be close to what they were. Steph for most of the season has been playing near MVP levels. If the Warriors think they need more because those two aren't going to cut it, then everybody is on the table except Steph Curry and probably Klay. Right now, they have salaries they can use to make moves like Kelly Oubre's and Kevon Looney's. Those two alone, added with the Wolves 2021 draft pick, which is looking good because the Wolves are horrible, and other incentives could get them Lavine. But like I said, does he make them a championship team? I doubt it.

    Warriors have the salaries and assets to make moves this season or this summer.
    What? Warriors contracts suck lol. the cap is 109 and they're at 173 with one of the worst rosters in the NBA right now.
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    Originally Posted by dyee4613 View Post
    Why? Wiggins has been awesome. Why would you get rid of one of the best players on a roster devoid of talent?


    What? Warriors contracts suck lol. the cap is 109 and they're at 173 with one of the worst rosters in the NBA right now.
    What I'm saying is that the Warriors have the assets to move some of these contracts into better players. But it depends on what exactly their plan is. Are they planning on developing rookies along with the core, or are they going all in during Steph's prime. Having salaries to move, despite how bad they're considered, are still options as long as they have incentives like draft picks.
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    Originally Posted by markkillerings View Post
    What I'm saying is that the Warriors have the assets to move some of these contracts into better players. But it depends on what exactly their plan is. Are they planning on developing rookies along with the core, or are they going all in during Steph's prime. Having salaries to move, despite how bad they're considered, are still options as long as they have incentives like draft picks.
    Gotcha - I definitely agree w/ this.
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