Harvard admissions: below average black and hispanics over top tier whites and asians

[BigNik78]

More participation trophies. I hope seeing the pendulum swing back in to the wokies nuts happens within my lifetime.

[outfoxxed]

Just subtract those points when hiring applicants.

Let's be real, black guy going to Harvard is the same as an Asian going to Rutgers

[PAU1]

this is nothing new

they were taken to court over discrimination against asians, their way out of it was saying they evaluate "personality" alongside standard metrics like GPA and test scores, and that the asians being turned down over less qualified candidates of different ethnic backgrounds was due to personality lol

Here’s how you show some personality to clench an admissions interview:

[Shortfuze]

Here’s how you show some personality to clench an admissions interview:

The problem with these kind of admission policies is that you're always going to been seen as someone who got in not due to hard work ethic or merit but because of politics and that label and stigma will always be stuck to you. Also, if you get into Harvard, you're still going to have to take some tough classes with very bright students and inevitably you won't be able to keep up and be forced into remedial classes.

[lightsarefallin]

It's happening at my alma matter too. Apparently, they're more interested in diversity, looking good, virtue signalling, and acquiring social justice credits than graduating competent doctors.

This will work out very well.

[cncman]

it's just for show. I saw almost no black or hispanics in my time there

That's the pathetic part. Give them all the privilege and advantage in the world and they still fail. We all de same doe

[sooby]

The problem with these kind of admission policies is that you're always going to been seen as someone who got in not due to hard work ethic or merit but because of politics and that label and stigma will always be stuck to you. Also, if you get into Harvard, you're still going to have to take some tough classes with very bright students and inevitably you won't be able to keep up and be forced into remedial classes.

This, imagine being a Black or Hispanic student going to Harvard where nobody speaks about it, but everyone just knows you are a product of affirmative action and didn't get in by their own merits. Everybody there is thinking it but wouldn't say it because it would be considered racist.

But then imagine having to compete with 120+ IQ asians for whom academics/studying was drilled into their head since pre-school over everything else. They'll probably struggle and end up having a miserable time trying to keep up anyways.

Honestly no shame in it, 95% of the population likely isn't cut out for it as it is regardless of race. It's just a part of Asian culture to excel at academics hence why you see them disproportionately dominating that sector, even with brutal affirmative action policies that work against them. Just like how black people disproportionately excel at athletics compared to other races, but we have no affirmative action for Indian people to make it to the NBA. It simply isn't apart of their culture, and genetics as well.

[JoshSP1985]

All this does is degrade any minority that gets in because people will assume they're an affirmative action admission and not there based on merit.

[meanstringbean]

It's been like this since 90s, if not earlier. If you are white and score lower, your parents just need to be prepared to donate a sh*tload of money.

It’s actually what started this white privilege nonsense


If you’re black at Harvard you basically have the intelligence of a good state school kid


If you’re white at Harvard you basically come from a silver spoon upbringing



So you have unremarkable people thinking they are genius while only exposure to whites are the elites of the elites. Easy to make big claims

[RocknRollMuscle]

if u put down asian on an app instead of self identify hispanic or black, ur an idiot. why even send the app in?

[frankdtank20]

A strong form of reparations that's been going on for decades. Not just Harvard, all colleges and universities. Ditto in much of the job market. Used to be just the cushy govt jobs where 3 people are hired for every 1 needed, but is common among companies wanting to show their wokeness. Obvious ones are across all entertainment and tech companies. Reparations have been going on for 60-70 yrs, depending on where you live.

[ipunchurgirl]

This is good for me I'm 100% European Hispanic (Spain). Just identify as Hispanic and you'll be fine

[BigBallsMcgee]

Its almost like test scores aren't the only criteria

[intheairtonight]

old news.

never go to a black or hispanic professional for anything (doctors, lawyers, accountants etc) as they will be worse at their jobs than their white/asian counterparts

[BigBallsMcgee]

All this does is degrade any minority that gets in because people will assume they're an affirmative action admission and not there based on merit.

no it doesn't. The minorities that get in are still smart so nobody cares.

[intheairtonight]

This isn't incorrect but by that same logic, you could say never go to a white professional because they will be worse at their jobs than their asian counterpart.

difference is negligble at a certain point

if a white doc graduates 5th in his class and the asian one graduates 1st. it doesnt matter

if the average black doctor is graduating 250th out of 250 spots thats what you want to avoid

just probabilities.

[AggressiveFun]

Harvard also gives black and hispanic students a 250 SAT score bonus over asian and white applicants

Clearly we need to give them a 500 point bonus due to racism or something

[MattyMiscer]

I'm a white guy currently in grad school at Harvard, ama. 100% srs

[ontclone]

People still need school for education? Literally could become a lawyer studying myself at home lawls, I know like 1 person whose has down that

[Adam16121]

Lmao @ the irony. Admissions officers sit around making subjective, stereotypical judgements about Asians lacking personality as a race, and then pat themselves on the back for wokeness.

[DynamicDot]

This isn't new. Affirmative action is racist because you are implying that blacks and hispanics are naturally dumber and need the standard to be rigged/lower for them to get in. The only argument I've seen regarding affirmative action is how blacks and hispanics tend to be poor, if you do affirmative action by class people wouldn't care as much and might be more supportive because class privilege is definitely a thing. But when you do it by race, that's literally racist....


Also....

Nothing new here. My niece had a 4.2 gpa, president of 2 school clubs, the best striker on her soccer team, volunteered at several charities every year of high school and still got rejected to a top UC school here while her Hispanic friend with a 3.6 gpa was accepted. And yet California still swears every year that there's no such thing as affirmative action bias in school admissions.

Weird thing is that California is a state that bans affirmative action.

[wave_length]

Why not just claim black? Do they require a genetic test?

[AWSbruh]

Who cares. Going to an Ivy League school is so overrated. The only thing you benefit from is higher student loans lmao. It doesn’t matter where you get your degree from now days and they are becoming irrelevant

[DynamicDot]

Who cares. Going to an Ivy League school is so overrated. The only thing you benefit from is higher student loans lmao. It doesn’t matter where you get your degree from now days and they are becoming irrelevant

Spoken like a man who does not understand the concept of networking or getting a job.

[AWSbruh]

Spoken like a man who does not understand the concept of networking or getting a job.

I have a 6 figure job and went to community college+ a state school. Studies have shown that where you go to school has minimal impact on how much you make in the future. I would rather send my kids to CC+ a state school and come out debt free then go to a 50k per year IVY league school for undergrad lmao. Guess what? Apple, Microsoft and all the big companies eliminated their degree requirement. I wonder why??

[wincel]

Diversity quotas have no place in America srs.

[DeputyDong5]

Spoken like a man who does not understand the concept of networking or getting a job.

He's right... and ironically enough, the largest alumni networks in the country come from very good public schools. Penn State, Ohio State, UCLA...

[DynamicDot]

I have a 6 figure job and went to community college+ a state school. Studies have shown that where you go to school has minimal impact on how much you make in the future. I would rather send my kids to CC+ a state school and come out debt free then go to a 50k per year IVY league school for undergrad lmao. Guess what? Apple, Microsoft and all the big companies eliminated their degree requirement. I wonder why??

I agree that it's overrated but it still helps a lot in terms of networking, getting your foot in the door for job interviews, and then companies recruit at schools too.

[AWSbruh]

He's right... and ironically enough, the largest alumni networks in the country come from very good public schools. Penn State, Ohio State, UCLA...

This I work with people with no degrees complaining about making 100 dollars per hour 😂

[AWSbruh]

I agree that it's overrated but it still helps a lot in terms of networking, getting your foot in the door for job interviews, and then companies recruit at schools too.

Trust me the advantage is minimal at best