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    Gonna buy an RTX card soon and I need advice

    I was planning to get a 3070 but prices suddenly spiked and it added $200 more from the price a few weeks ago which was around $620

    Meanwhile the 2070 super is available and it's price got dramatically reduced to only $400 now.

    Would I be better off waiting and hoping for the the prices of 3070 to go back to it's price a few weeks ago? I have a feeling it'll take more time.

    Or is it better to just buy the 2070 super now?
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    not guaranteed to work, but you can try getting "alerts for reddit" app, and subscribing it to /r/buildapcsales for keyword 3070, and setting it to notify you on new posts. i did that recently while searching for a cpu that's constantly out of stock, and it took about 4 hours before someone posted a deal on one, and i was able to grab it.

    you can also visit your local microcenter if you have one nearby. they might have something in stock early in the morning during opening hours.
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    Originally Posted by ispy View Post
    not guaranteed to work, but you can try getting "alerts for reddit" app, and subscribing it to /r/buildapcsales for keyword 3070, and setting it to notify you on new posts. i did that recently while searching for a cpu that's constantly out of stock, and it took about 4 hours before someone posted a deal on one, and i was able to grab it.

    you can also visit your local microcenter if you have one nearby. they might have something in stock early in the morning during opening hours.
    The problem in my case though isn't really the availability, but the prices. The stores have the 3070(though low in supply), but it's only available at high prices, $800+ lol

    Do you guys think there's a chance that the prices will go back to how it was, which was around $600 soon or nah?
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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    The problem in my case though isn't really the availability, but the prices. The stores have the 3070(though low in supply), but it's only available at high prices, $800+ lol

    Do you guys think there's a chance that the prices will go back to how it was, which was around $600 soon or nah?
    Not anytime soon. The only thing (in the short term) that would make inventory available is a sudden bitcoin/crypto crash and we are talking like a 50% drop type of deal. Word is the next big inventory drops for retailers wont occur until June or July.
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    Originally Posted by GainzMcgee View Post
    Not anytime soon. The only thing (in the short term) that would make inventory available is a sudden bitcoin/crypto crash and we are talking like a 50% drop type of deal. Word is the next big inventory drops for retailers wont occur until June or July.
    fuk I was afraid that's gonna be the case.

    Welp, looks like instead of a 3070, I'm gonna get a 2070 Super instead. Kind of a downer but I guess it's not that bad considering the price is a lot lower.
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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    I was planning to get a 3070 but prices suddenly spiked and it added $200 more from the price a few weeks ago which was around $620

    Meanwhile the 2070 super is available and it's price got dramatically reduced to only $400 now.

    Would I be better off waiting and hoping for the the prices of 3070 to go back to it's price a few weeks ago? I have a feeling it'll take more time.

    Or is it better to just buy the 2070 super now?
    Why did they go up? I bought my evga 2070 for $440 back in oct 2018.
    What are you in a rush for? If it’s $200 I would wait
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    I don't get why you guys are buying $800 graphic cards.

    For $1000, I can get an xbox and ps5 and get access to all of the exclusive games that are on par in terms of graphical computing.

    You guys are dumb as chit.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    I don't get why you guys are buying $800 graphic cards.

    For $1000, I can get an xbox and ps5 and get access to all of the exclusive games that are on par in terms of graphical computing.

    You guys are dumb as chit.
    Enjoy your 30frames bro lol these cards are capable of running 144+ at 8k resolution so your "tech proof" for at least 8-10 years with these.

    You will have to buy 3 console gens at a minimum to keep up with what this one card can do on top of the other functionality that comes with a PC.
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    Originally Posted by Lb54TG View Post
    Why did they go up? I bought my evga 2070 for $440 back in oct 2018.
    What are you in a rush for? If it’s $200 I would wait
    Supply and demand brah.
    And I don't feel it's right to buy it for $800 when it was just $600 a few days ago. And as the reply above said, if it does come back to around $600, it'll be around June or July, that was actually my estimate too, I was just hoping someone with more knowledge or experience bout this would say the prices will drop soon, but that seems to be just wishful thinking.

    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    I don't get why you guys are buying $800 graphic cards.

    For $1000, I can get an xbox and ps5 and get access to all of the exclusive games that are on par in terms of graphical computing.

    You guys are dumb as chit.
    But does xbox or PS5 have beautiful lgbt representation like this?



    jk, I need a fast pc for work too.
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    Originally Posted by GainzMcgee View Post
    Enjoy your 30frames bro lol these cards are capable of running 144+ at 8k resolution so your "tech proof" for at least 8-10 years with these.

    You will have to buy 3 console gens at a minimum to keep up with what this one card can do on top of the other functionality that comes with a PC.
    Because console graphics are equivalent to PC medium settings and have a fraction of depth of view?
    Because PS5 and XSX still run some games at 30 frames?

    If you took Sony exclusives out of the picture, consoles have nothing going for them aside from being cheaper lmao.
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    Originally Posted by GainzMcgee View Post
    Enjoy your 30frames bro lol these cards are capable of running 144+ at 8k resolution so your "tech proof" for at least 8-10 years with these.

    You will have to buy 3 console gens at a minimum to keep up with what this one card can do on top of the other functionality that comes with a PC.
    60fps is the sweet spot for casual gamers like me.

    Even though I don't see major breakthroughs in technology, I just don't buy the whole tech proofing concept because games are built and optimized mostly for consoles.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    60fps is the sweet spot for casual gamers like me.
    There's your answer as to why we buy expensive gpus
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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    There's your answer as to why we buy expensive gpus
    This is basically what it boils down to. The guys buying the best GPU every generation are NOT casual gamers lol.
    But console people can't seem to understand that and always have to foam at the mouth about "bUt whY wHen mY Ps5 CosTS haLf WhaT JusT yOUR GpU dOes?!?!!!1111"
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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    There's your answer as to why we buy expensive gpus
    lol get outta here dude. Youre not a "real" gamer.

    I've been playing cod4, mw2, mw3, ghost, mw for years just fine on the console. Spent money only on the Ps3 and ps4.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    lol get outta here dude. Youre not a "real" gamer.

    I've been playing cod4, mw2, mw3, ghost, mw for years just fine on the console.
    A 5/10 is fine too if you've never had an 8/10.

    A natural physique is fine too if you've never been on roids.

    A nice long veiny cawk is fine too if you've never had a cunny.



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    Originally Posted by illah View Post
    A 5/10 is fine too if you've never had an 8/10.

    A natural physique is fine too if you've never been on roids.

    A nice long veiny cawk is fine too if you've never had a cunny.

    Wait what?
    The mean standard distribution is where you want to be at because that's where all the juicy action is taking place.

    By spending $800 so that you can play at 144fps is 3 standard deviation away from the mean. It aint no fun. And fun is what gaming is all about.
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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    The problem in my case though isn't really the availability, but the prices. The stores have the 3070(though low in supply), but it's only available at high prices, $800+ lol

    Do you guys think there's a chance that the prices will go back to how it was, which was around $600 soon or nah?
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Because console graphics are equivalent to PC medium settings and have a fraction of depth of view?
    Because PS5 and XSX still run some games at 30 frames?

    If you took Sony exclusives out of the picture, consoles have nothing going for them aside from being cheaper lmao.

    PC games are often optimized like chit, an upscaled 1800p console game will look better than “80%” of 4k on PC

    A 2070 or even 3070 won’t keep stable frame rates at 4k60fps. The days of 30 fos are long gone. Nvidia ****ed up on this one when their 8k card can’t even keep a stable 4k60.


    Wait for the 4000 cards
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    I don't get why you guys are buying $800 graphic cards.

    For $1000, I can get an xbox and ps5 and get access to all of the exclusive games that are on par in terms of graphical computing.

    You guys are dumb as chit.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post

    I've been playing cod4, mw2, mw3, ghost, mw for years just fine on the console. Spent money only on the Ps3 and ps4.
    tnx for sharing more casual gaming experiences

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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    I was planning to get a 3070 but prices suddenly spiked and it added $200 more from the price a few weeks ago which was around $620

    Meanwhile the 2070 super is available and it's price got dramatically reduced to only $400 now.

    Would I be better off waiting and hoping for the the prices of 3070 to go back to it's price a few weeks ago? I have a feeling it'll take more time.

    Or is it better to just buy the 2070 super now?


    I have a 2060 super now and honestly it still runs great and I'm sure it can hold its own until next year, so a 2070s can more than holds it own for the next year or so. If budget isnt an issue and you can kinda throw your money around .... I personally would buy a 2070 as a small stop gap until I can get my hands on a newer card whenever that is..... But that brings me to the question ... What exactly are you upgrading from?




    If you're of course more mindful with your money, then I'd say stick with whatever you have and just upgrade to the 3070 or whatever when they become available, which hopefully by the years end this whole stupid shortage should be a lot better.
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    Also when you play on console, everyone is playing on an even playing field.

    With PCs, the variations in performance is so wide that it makes the gaming experience inconsistent, especially with multiplayer.

    A dev may make a game with this feature but then takes it out on console and leaves it in on PC. Again, inconsistency.

    Either make a game for PC or console. Cannot do both, bb.

    Master console race outnumber the PC race 20:1, and you wanna know how I know console will take over(it already has)? $800 GPUs.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    Also when you play on console, everyone is playing on an even playing field.

    With PCs, the variations in performance is so wide that it makes the gaming experience inconsistent, especially with multiplayer.

    A dev may make a game with this feature but then takes it out on console and leaves it in on PC. Again, inconsistency.

    Either make a game for PC or console. Cannot do both, bb.

    Master console race outnumber the PC race 20:1, and you wanna know how I know console will take over(it already has)? $800 GPU.
    nah the best players i've ever played with use really old hardware. just cause you got 200fps doesn't mean you are out there murdering people. when we want 144+ fps its about the experience playing with those smooth rates. Its one of those things where once you experience it you can't go back to poverty. If you've always console gamed then console gaming is perfectly fine for you.
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    Originally Posted by bongowongo View Post
    I have a 2060 super now and honestly it still runs great and I'm sure it can hold its own until next year, so a 2070s can more than holds it own for the next year or so. If budget isnt an issue and you can kinda throw your money around .... I personally would buy a 2070 as a small stop gap until I can get my hands on a newer card whenever that is..... But that brings me to the question ... What exactly are you upgrading from?



    If you're of course more mindful with your money, then I'd say stick with whatever you have and just upgrade to the 3070 or whatever when they become available, which hopefully by the years end this whole stupid shortage should be a lot better.
    I'm looking at benchmark comparisons between 2070 super and 3070 and seems like the 3070 has around 25-30% performance over 2070 super. If only the price remained at the $600 range, it definitely would have been worth it, but now at $820 vs 2070 super's $400, I definitely don't think 30% boost in performance is worth another $400 lol.

    I'm upgrading from a gtx 1060 gaming x and I'm itching to upgrade. I don't think I can wait until July, much more until year's end lol and with the pandemic making more people buy a **** ton of hardware and there's crypto miners, I have a feeling this shortage will last longer

    My country is near Taiwan which I hear manufactures gpu parts, do you guys think that'll make a difference?
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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    I'm looking at benchmark comparisons between 2070 super and 3070 and seems like the 3070 has around 25-30% performance over 2070 super. If only the price remained at the $600 range, it definitely would have been worth it, but now at $820 vs 2070 super's $400, I definitely don't think 30% boost in performance is worth another $400 lol.

    I'm upgrading from a gtx 1060 gaming x and I'm itching to upgrade. I don't think I can wait until July, much more until year's end lol and with the pandemic making more people buy a **** ton of hardware and there's crypto miners, I have a feeling this shortage will last longer

    My country is near Taiwan which I hear manufactures gpu parts, do you guys think that'll make a difference?


    Lol I'm in Malaysia, which was making PS5 parts and it was a bitch to get the sytem, so you're out of luck unless you live in a market the company priorizes, which is usually usa and the west.
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    nah the best players i've ever played with use really old hardware. just cause you got 200fps doesn't mean you are out there murdering people. when we want 144+ fps its about the experience playing with those smooth rates. Its one of those things where once you experience it you can't go back to poverty. If you've always console gamed then console gaming is perfectly fine for you.
    I understand the smooth game rate argument but 60fps will give you the best playing experience, with consideration to playability, cost, player count, games, and consistency.

    If you are playing on PC and want to push it to the limit with 100fps+, that's fine but you'll be playing with a small niche group of people.

    My point was, why would you want to be in this niche group? People in this group are dumb - that was my main point.

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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    I understand the smooth game rate argument but 60fps will give you the best playing experience, with consideration to playability, cost, player count, games, and consistency.

    If you are playing on PC and want to push it to the limit with 100fps+, that's fine but you'll be playing with a small niche group of people.

    My point was, why would you want to be in this niche group? People in this group are dumb - that was my main point.

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    Originally Posted by bongowongo View Post
    Lol I'm in Malaysia, which was making PS5 parts and it was a bitch to get the sytem, so you're out of luck unless you live in a market the company priorizes, which is usually usa and the west.
    yep looks like its 2070s for me then just make sure to get the 40 series cards as soon as they come out before prices go crazy again

    Originally Posted by rocketfish View Post
    nah the best players i've ever played with use really old hardware. just cause you got 200fps doesn't mean you are out there murdering people. when we want 144+ fps its about the experience playing with those smooth rates. Its one of those things where once you experience it you can't go back to poverty. If you've always console gamed then console gaming is perfectly fine for you.
    can confirm, my kd in Siege didn't really improve much when I got a 240hz monitor. The #frameswingames by Nvidia was a marketing sham lmao, but it do look really good and smooth in the eyes.

    I get around 150+ fps in Siege and sometimes when I render while playing it drops down to below 100 and I can feel the roughness. There's just no going back specially when it comes to competitive fps games. I can stand 40-60fps in single player games like RDR2 and CP2077 though.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    I understand the smooth game rate argument but 60fps will give you the best playing experience, with consideration to playability, cost, player count, games, and consistency.

    If you are playing on PC and want to push it to the limit with 100fps+, that's fine but you'll be playing with a small niche group of people.

    My point was, why would you want to be in this niche group? People in this group are dumb - that was my main point.
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