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    Beijing Biden is going to do everything in his power to have that timeline moved up at least 4 years
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    Originally Posted by phaginator View Post
    Yes the west is failing because of liberal retards like you that destroy the base of western civilization.
    Says the guy who literally doesn't know any math or science. That is the base of all civilization. And your party assaults it.
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    Originally Posted by morechickenpls View Post
    Have you ever spent significant time in China? (i.e., Not as a tourist) Do you think improving human rights in China would strengthen their rise or imperil it?

    Hint: Dangerous crimes have an extremely high prosecution rate. And those people never see light of day ever again. They also have strong borders and do whatever possible to ship illegals back. They also have extremely high penalties for drugs.

    Gimme a break. They don't need our "human rights" and we should be taking a page from their book instead - looking into improving how we can remove (at least the worst of) filth from our own societies instead.

    Now, if you ever do travel to China do take note of the high level of safety you feel compared to what you will feel in any large city in your own country. Compare your own country and ask yourself how your definition of human rights fits in with that picture.
    They don't need to be the same as America, but some improvement in the freedoms of Chinese people (specifically in their ability to criticize the govt and speak truth to power) would be valuable for them.

    You can look at the way the local government covered up Covid from Beijing for a while out of fear as an illustration of the need for people to be able to convey truth. When you have a government where everyone is scared chitless of being murdered/imprisoned/losing your position, optics matter more than reality. And that's a really bad thing for any country.
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    Originally Posted by RichardRarvos View Post
    Their population is already 5 times as much, every man has military training. It's just a matter of time before China takes over every country by sheer number of soldiers.
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    Originally Posted by Mercworx View Post
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    Never works out buddy read more history.
    Has China invaded anyone and annexed up land? Seems the US is the most aggressive and reminiscent of Nazi Germany on international scales. Almost nobody except the US views China as the biggest threat to world peace. Most of the world thinks the US is the biggest threat.

    China has been growing their power through "soft" avenues of corporate influence. We should "fight" them in that arena and export our own brand of American globalism. That means more internationalism, not less. That means American companies operating in China and doing more business with China.
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    The problem with china is that it cannot sustain itself. Majority of chinese live in poverty and all the wealth is concentrated in government.
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    Originally Posted by Uhyeahokay View Post
    Instead of measuring Ted Cruz's tan or showing AOC's jugs. The news should be covering China and what it is building there. It's extraordinary the infrastructural advances they've made in 5 years let alone 10 years.
    LOL but they are nice jugs !

    Yeah China is nasty stuff. Avoiding a military war, and hitting USA and Euro nations where it hurts, their individual freedoms and the stubbornness of many citizens.

    Crazy crazy stuff. Hope the truth eventually comes out and they get exposed
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Says the guy who literally doesn't know any math or science. That is the base of all civilization. And your party assaults it.
    Lol you fcking retard, it's the liberals who destroy and lowers the level of education by catering to minorities, etc. Your party also pushes bull**** in schools nobody needs like LGBT, white privilege,... awareness indoctrination and other garbage.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Has China invaded anyone and annexed up land? Seems the US is the most aggressive and reminiscent of Nazi Germany on international scales. Almost nobody except the US views China as the biggest threat to world peace. Most of the world thinks the US is the biggest threat.

    China has been growing their power through "soft" avenues of corporate influence. We should "fight" them in that arena and export our own brand of American globalism. That means more internationalism, not less. That means American companies operating in China and doing more business with China.
    Holy fck, you constantly prove you're even more retarded than I already thought.

    So China never invaded or annexed land? Ever heard of Tibet you dumb phaggot?

    And read up some contemporary news from sources outside of your liberal echo chambers. Almost every country surrounding China hates China, there's a reason for that...

    Now you're also promoting more globalism and more "business" with China? You do know the chinese have completely different non liberal, protectionist rules when it comes to business in China right? A western company isn't as free in China as a chinese company in the west. Holy fck you're are so retarded and ignorant about the world, it's incredible. At this point you have to be trolling
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    They don't need to be the same as America, but some improvement in the freedoms of Chinese people (specifically in their ability to criticize the govt and speak truth to power) would be valuable for them.

    You can look at the way the local government covered up Covid from Beijing for a while out of fear as an illustration of the need for people to be able to convey truth. When you have a government where everyone is scared chitless of being murdered/imprisoned/losing your position, optics matter more than reality. And that's a really bad thing for any country.
    trying to enforce a certain culture and standard on a country such as china

    i wonder how that worked out with smaller countries.
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    Yeah but nobody here seems to care about the greatest rise out of poverty in human history to create the most advanced civilization to have ever existed. All they care about is tearing them down because USA numba won. China will carry the torch of science and mathematics while we continue to be idiots. They will continue to push humanity forward with or without us, and if we fail to step up and lead, they will fill our shoes.

    The goal should not be to defeat or destroy China. The goal should be to work with them, get them to come around to some of our perspectives on human rights and other issues while promoting prosperity for all of mankind. We can learn a lot from China's discipline and culture built mostly around STEM. They can learn a lot from our notions of liberty and human rights. We can work together and reach some appropriate middle ground. It's not impossible.
    Agree but JFL if you think their advancement was not made possible by literally the Western world. Especially in the USA.

    TBH, that is how they should be but a lot of Western countries saved a lot of former communist countries (for China meaning when it had a socialist planned economy compared to the capitalist as the one-party system is still part of communism but it is not that damaging).

    This infrastructure of newly developed countries is poor confirmation bias. My former commie country's capital metro stations look futuristic compared to, say, London's one. But London's one has existed for a lot of time before that and just needs a refurb investment. The same goes for NYC.

    The USA media won't show you vids like this but the CCP is not different. They show TV series of WWII events where Chinese farmers are the ones fending off the Japanese. Nothing to do with the fact that the USA decapitated its economy and bombed them 2x to stop Imperial Japan.
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    Originally Posted by atgbrahsrs View Post
    Agree but JFL if you think their advancement was not made possible by literally the Western world. Especially in the USA.

    TBH, that is how they should be but a lot of Western countries saved a lot of former communist countries (for China meaning when it had a socialist planned economy compared to the capitalist as the one-party system is still part of communism but it is not that damaging).

    This infrastructure of newly developed countries is poor confirmation bias. My former commie country's capital metro stations look futuristic compared to, say, London's one. But London's one has existed for a lot of time before that and just needs a refurb investment. The same goes for NYC.

    The USA media won't show you vids like this but the CCP is not different. They show TV series of WWII events where Chinese farmers are the ones fending off the Japanese. Nothing to do with the fact that the USA decapitated its economy and bombed them 2x to stop Imperial Japan.

    JFL at you thinking the western powers did anything but siphon wealth from Asian countries for hundreds of years. America or Europe didn't do chit for China besides carve it up like a piece of pie. It's not called "100 years of humiliation" for nothing.

    With regards to technology, Europe has been using Chinese inventions for thousands of years you dumb phaggot. Every country steals technology. Countries aren't bubbles.

    Holy fuk read a book.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Yeah but nobody here seems to care about the greatest rise out of poverty in human history to create the most advanced civilization to have ever existed. All they care about is tearing them down because USA numba won. China will carry the torch of science and mathematics while we continue to be idiots. They will continue to push humanity forward with or without us, and if we fail to step up and lead, they will fill our shoes.

    The goal should not be to defeat or destroy China. The goal should be to work with them, get them to come around to some of our perspectives on human rights and other issues while promoting prosperity for all of mankind. We can learn a lot from China's discipline and culture built mostly around STEM. They can learn a lot from our notions of liberty and human rights. We can work together and reach some appropriate middle ground. It's not impossible.
    Chinese society lacks too many morals and is obsessed with greed and power. You can always judge a society by how they treat animals and the way they treat them is barbaric.
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    JFL at you thinking the western powers did anything but siphon wealth from Asian countries for hundreds of years. America or Europe didn't do chit for China besides carve it up like a piece of pie. It's not called "100 years of humiliation" for nothing.

    With regards to technology, Europe has been using Chinese inventions for thousands of years you dumb phaggot. Every country steals technology. Countries aren't bubbles.

    Holy fuk read a book.
    You are right every country has done X and Y at some point. It all depends on where we draw the line history-wise.

    Mongolian Empire and the Ottoman Empire took a lot from my country. When are people going to fight for my reparations there?

    Audit on how owes what can turn out to be very interesting. You might just find out that Asians have taken a lot as well.


    With regards to China's latest development, it is mostly due to the fact that Deng undid Mao's socialist planned economy policies. But for that new China to work it needed investment and companies coming in to take advantage of zero tax and a workforce willing to do anything (as there was a lot of starvation).

    Now, pre Mao you can say a lot of Western powers did this and that to China and you will be correct.

    If you look at China's history 1000 years back you will see it was a prosperous economy. Then Mao happened. Is the West to blame for the communist ideology? America saved South Korea otherwise it would have been the Communist Korean Peninsula ruled by the perverted dictatorial thieving communist family that runs the North. Are they American as well?

    I wish someone saved my country (in Eastern Europe) from Stalinist communism.

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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    US is only relevant because they stole a chit load of land to compete with the Asians.

    US never had the ups in anything.

    Yo Tuna,

    When is Mongolia and its ancestors (heavily in China) giving me back what they owe me? Let me just extrapolate it to Asians in general. That is what a lot of Asians with misallocated patriotism do all the time with White people.
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    Originally Posted by atgbrahsrs View Post
    Yo Tuna,

    When is Mongolia and its ancestors (heavily in China) giving me back what they owe me? Let me just extrapolate it to Asians in general. That is what a lot of Asians with misallocated patriotism do all the time with White people.
    Really is funny how every sin of the world is somehow the fault of whites.

    Meanwhile it was whites who ended slavery and liberated a bunch of ethnics. If it wasn't for whites, asians would still be rice farmers under some feudal dictatorship.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Yeah but nobody here seems to care about the greatest rise out of poverty in human history to create the most advanced civilization to have ever existed. All they care about is tearing them down because USA numba won. China will carry the torch of science and mathematics while we continue to be idiots. They will continue to push humanity forward with or without us, and if we fail to step up and lead, they will fill our shoes.

    The goal should not be to defeat or destroy China. The goal should be to work with them, get them to come around to some of our perspectives on human rights and other issues while promoting prosperity for all of mankind. We can learn a lot from China's discipline and culture built mostly around STEM. They can learn a lot from our notions of liberty and human rights. We can work together and reach some appropriate middle ground. It's not impossible.
    For someone who prides himself as a "smart" person compared to the average person, you seem very susceptible to propaganda. Going from 1$ a day to 10$ a day is not progress brewski.
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    Originally Posted by phaginator View Post
    Really is funny how every sin of the world is somehow the fault of whites.

    Meanwhile it was whites who ended slavery and liberated a bunch of ethnics. If it wasn't for whites, asians would still be rice farmers under some feudal dictatorship.
    No bro, I agree with them. Whites did steal a lot of stuff.

    But since we are doing an audit - my country, even though it is white, never pillaged (altho maybe it did 1400 years ago), but it got pillaged by two Empires. I am due for a lot of cash. Srs
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    Originally Posted by TexasTechPharmD View Post
    The problem with china is that it cannot sustain itself. Majority of chinese live in poverty and all the wealth is concentrated in government.
    This is false.
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    Originally Posted by roughinhouse View Post
    Chinese society lacks too many morals and is obsessed with greed and power. You can always judge a society by how they treat animals and the way they treat them is barbaric.
    Can we rewind for a second?

    You're criticizing China for a lack of morals as an American? Can we just pause for a second here? Kettle, meet pot.
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    Originally Posted by Metz00 View Post
    This is false.
    Yep, he has eaten a bit of the propaganda that is a bit too much Western biased.

    Although they can do much better as having spoken to older Chinese (upper class) who have lived there and in Canada, they say lots of stuff going on that the West can't see.
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    Originally Posted by anonkunbrah View Post
    LMAO now all of the products in China are going to say "Made in the U.S." in the upcoming years
    No they wont lol
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    Originally Posted by Winston56432 View Post
    China is legit next nazi regime


    Look at what they doing to the muslims there
    What they're doing over there is what the world should be doing to any population that murders their own because some fairytale wizard in the sky told them to. Eliminate the bad apples and deradicalize at risk people. Train them for jobs so they can rise from poverty and not be beholden to some archaic religion which has a rich history of killing innocent MFs.
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    Originally Posted by Metz00 View Post
    This is false.
    I've lived in Shanghai for a few months while I was doing my clinical rotations in S. Korea. It is not false. Chinese have these grandiose ideas about themselves. There are 1.5 billion people in china. All you "westerners" see is what's happening in the coast. How are you gonna feed all your people when all your wealth is concentrated in top 0.0001%?
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