It’s not in every country. Test is OTC in some countries.
Going on TRT is a risk vs reward debate that needs to start and conclude with the individual.
The material is out there, it is very well researched. Just do your homework and make Your own decision. Part of being a free man is making choices just like this one.
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02-22-2021, 09:40 PM #33
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honestly, I just got frustration vibes from the video, frustration that you basically can't compete with fake natties for business because people will always go to them first because they look better, not realizing they can't look like them without drugs
basically hop on drugs or you'll never make in the industry, I'm talking just fitness industry, not bodybuilding, bodybuilding always had drugs. idk I think that is a bullchit standard and feel sad its got to this point.see sig
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02-22-2021, 09:41 PM #34
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02-22-2021, 09:47 PM #35
If he’d kept it to just that, I would have no problem with this video. Dishonesty should be called out, and if the baseline for ‘making it’ in the industry is cycling then it should be openly stated. Calling people out for trading some years of their life to look exponentially better right now is none of his fukking business tho and he should take a seat.
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02-22-2021, 09:56 PM #36
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02-22-2021, 10:13 PM #38
The reality is if you cycle knowledgeably, you can hit your genetic limit, maintain/get on trt and still look better than he ever will. Why does he care . I guess he loves his subscribers so much he doesn't want them to hurt themselves. lmao jus lmao. He can take his social policing and shove it up is manlet azz
Why lift when it's all about the jawline ©
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02-22-2021, 10:14 PM #39anonymousGuest
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02-22-2021, 10:58 PM #40
I used to be like that. As I "matured", I couldn't care any less of what someone does.
I've also accepted the fact that I'll never be huge. It will be 14 years worth of training in March this year and I just enjoy lifting 1 to 2x per week full body. I think after year 6, my physique stopped changing irrespective of slow bullk, lean bulk, dirty bulk etc etc.
I've also stopped caring about who's natty or not, what's achievable or not etc, it doesn't matter. Just lift and enjoy.
For me, it's not worth going on gear. Like, no one actually cares about you or your physique but yourself.. Literally.** Officially started lifting weights on March 22nd 2007 **
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02-22-2021, 11:24 PM #42
The same way all fake nattys or OJ sippers promoting that on Instagram, YouTube, tiktok, whatever, should take a seat. Right?
Nobody should talk about alcohol abuse, drug abuse? It’s none of their business what other people do, right?
Or is it only when you disagree with the person they “need to take a seat”.
He’s got a following in the fitness community and it is exactly his place to talk about OJ. In the video he’a not really “callling out” your random nobody for doing steroids, he’s calling out the influcencers who lie to their audience and promote drug use to teenagers.
I remember the guy in the OP used to be posted a lot on the misc some years ago with his trap/neck training.Real Madrid, Miami Heat, New York Jets.
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02-22-2021, 11:27 PM #43
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02-22-2021, 11:35 PM #44
Seriously?
I remember this guy must be more than 5 years ago, and he was cringe ASF then calling anyone with a 6 pack a twin and saying to grow a beard to cover your double chin. Didn't he do rack pulls for like a quarter inch as a mass builder.
It was sad then but its actually beyond pathetic he is still pulling this **** now.
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02-22-2021, 11:38 PM #45
Plenty of guys like Joe delaney are making good money out of social media. No they aren't getting millions of views per vid but you can make a good living off very little work on YouTube with just a decent physique and a bit of charisma.
I mean my god, alpha destiny himself is 5'6"
If you take him off the screen, put him in a room and ask a 100 guys if they want to look like him, not one of them would because he's basically a dwarf.
IMHO he's stealing a living and should stop complaining.
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02-22-2021, 11:56 PM #46
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02-23-2021, 12:01 AM #47
I'm natural but I can for sure understand why guys take it, easier and better results, they can look twice as good as I do with half the work. I don't blame anyone who takes them I'd probably do it too but I just know with my ****ty ass luck Id be one of the rare cases of it causing serious side effects.
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02-23-2021, 12:36 AM #48
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02-23-2021, 12:40 AM #49
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02-23-2021, 12:41 AM #50
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02-23-2021, 01:06 AM #51
I legitimately don't care. I have never wanted to use and never will. To me, it's a sign of weakness and insecurity, especially if you do it before age 40. And it damages your health and reduces your life span. For what, to look good to girls? That's pathetic and feminine. Since when did being the best looking matter to men? Good looks are important for women. Nobody bases a man on his looks unless he is the complete package, it is a tiny percent. And just for the record, nobody will ever use all that extra muscle unless you do fuking construction. Lift to feel good, be healthy, and be strong. Anything further than that is a genuine waste of your time.
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02-23-2021, 01:18 AM #52
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