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"why are you getting on sh*t bro???"
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lol. Yeah he mad. Who gives a chit if someone is on the juice? Let them do what they want. It's their body. The only reason for him to be so damned upset is that he cant do it for whatever reason. Maybe he has a heart/kidney disorder or something that makes him ultra high risk to the side effects of cell tech, i dunno. I use to be like that when i was like.....17
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02-22-2021, 08:27 PM #6
That little guy ego came out. "We win in the long run" Who is we? I'm natural and don't give two phucks who is or isn't.
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02-22-2021, 08:39 PM #9
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you guys are crazy. He's 100% right. no it doesn't matter what someone puts inside their body but when they start influencing other young men to do it, it's a problem. JFL at 18 year olds hoping on drugs because they probably feel they can't keep up with other guys, how did we get to this point in fitness?
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02-22-2021, 08:41 PM #10
Comparing yourself to others is a surefire way to ruin your life.
The hierarchy is an illusion. We are all different. Take pride in your own life and doing the best you can. Forget other ppl. There is almost always gonna be someone smarter, richer, taller, better looking, stronger, etc. And a lot of ppl will take whatever shortcuts they can to get there too. You can keep being wrapped up in the rat race or just learn to accept yourself which is way harder. At the end of the day, none of the parasites whose love, validation, or respect you seek will be there when you face the challenges of life. You're your only real ally. Might as well learn to accept yourself.
Also, the richest, strongest, most aesthetic dude could randomly get hit by a car and lose everything. There is no permanency in life. Getting hung up over your status or situation just comes from our instinctual need to compete. After all, you don't want to be the most expendable member of the tribe. But really, we are all alone, and you need to have the will as a man to be able to face the challenges of life with or without the tribe.Last edited by wincel; 02-22-2021 at 08:47 PM.
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What? Nobody is telling young men/teens what they NEED to look like. People want to look a certain way and sometimes that will require some ‘extracurriculars’. It’s up to the individual to decide if looking that way is worth it to them. This is like getting angry at someone for trying to get a better paying job or working more hours cause they want to buy a better car, and that’s what it takes to do it.
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02-22-2021, 08:57 PM #15
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what the fuk are you talking about?
people bully men (usually other men) with decent natty physiques because they aren't up to celltech standards.
All fitness models these days are on some kind of PeD because if they aren't they wouldn't have a job.
actors with insane bodies that take drugs , ofc they all claim to be natural.
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02-22-2021, 08:58 PM #16
He’s not wrong
I could have gained the results I did from a pH back in the day just from eating more
And my dink would have worked for the two months it did not
Also who cares during the shutdown because I am natty now I drank like 6 nights a week and basically had no weights and more or less look the same as I do in my AV but I bulked 10lbs so abs are less defined
When I was on tech the second time back in the day I broke my hand and lost a lot of strength and size in the 8 weeks I was recovering and basically using bands to workout with.
All in all I want to cycle again but I most likely will not. I’m 32 years old soon and If I attract a wife I want to attract her as I look now I’m happy with the slow progress.
Because I have lifted for so many years I have a good base and size so I can cut down to 195 and look good
The way I see it after 30 if your single as long as your not bloatmaxxing you should do okay with the ladies as long as your not twinkish
I will never bulk more than 15 lbs ever again
End goal is lean 215. Should get there by age 36 hopefully married by then and I’ll just maintain
However once I’ve had my kid or kids I’m going to TRTMAXx in my 40s just for lulz
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I’ve literally never witnessed this in real life. Again, unattainable standards are set for a lot of things, yet people are encouraged to make all kinds of sacrifices in order to strive for them (fancy car, bigger house, etc). Its a choice made on an individual level so why is this turd getting mad at ppl for it? If you don’t want to look like you’re on oj, then don’t take oj. If you’re stupid enough to believe you can look like a fitness model without it you’re dumb as fuk anyway cuz
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how do you feel about fake nattys deceiving their young audiences for money? charging them for bogus fitness and meal plan, overpriced rebranded supplements. All so they can buy that bigger house and fancy car.
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02-22-2021, 09:22 PM #26
To each their own.
That guy on the video doesn’t have the genetics to be aesthetic anyway, juice or no juice. He won’t ever be famous for his looks, doesn’t matter what shortcut he takes. His insertions, his height, his face, everything is just average. He thinks he’s mad at the influencers but in reality he’s mad with the universe for not gifting him good genetics, and he’s mad with himself."The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
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02-22-2021, 09:22 PM #27
I think people who hate enhanced lifters are just mad knowing no matter how dedicated they are, no mater how hard they train, no matter how flawless their diet is. They'll still get mogged by enhanced lifters.
I trained natural for like 8+ years. I get it. It sucks grinding day in and day out. Then some 18-19 year old shows up in the gym, immediately starts juicing, and within about 18-24 months has a physique that will mog yours. Especially if they have good genetics on top of that. At a certain point you need to accept you're either going to be 'natural' with a sub-par physique. Or take it to the next level.
At a certain point I decided I don't want to be 'natural'. I don't want a physique that's 'naturally obtainable.' I've been training 14 years and am in my 30s now. It was time for me to step my game up. When I look in the mirror, whether I'm in clothes or not, I want to look like I've been training for nearly a decade and a half.
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02-22-2021, 09:28 PM #29
I feel it’s unfortunate that they can’t be honest cause if they were they’d lose their sponsorships and income. That pressure comes from the companies though. Selling bullchit programs is inexcusable but is in no way symptomatic of or exclusive to cyclers. Many nattys and even women peddle crap. Anyone who pursues fitness long enough to even approach their goal body will quickly realize the reality of the industry, even if they’re young and naive.
My problem with the video is that he seems legitimately angry about this on a personal level, and it really just comes off as him being envious of people with better physiques because he’s just not willing do what it takes to get there, but others are. It’s a childish attitude.Benevolent Dictatorship
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