Would you be brave enough to be on the frontlines of WW1, WW2, or the Vietnam War?

[JuceSpringsteen]

Scary as ****, would definitely separate the men from the boys, and the brave and courageous from the cowardice.

Imagine being in an environment like that -- your death is most likely imminent -- bullets, grenades, mortars flying everywhere.

Imagine being on one of those boats that landed at Omaha Beach.

[Retoaded]

Thankfully our grandfathers made that sacrifice for us and we don't have to worry about it.

[Acal83]

No, I'm a huge wuss. If you have a moment, read the circumstances for the medal of honor recipients from Vietnam. About a 1/4 of the dudes died diving on grenades to save their fellow soldiers. A lot of the others ran into enemy bunkers by themselves to save guy's lives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...he_Vietnam_War

[climberbrah]

vietnam was so much of a better war to be in its not even funny

yes many of them spent more time on the front lines than the average ww1 or ww2 soldier


but the death rates were WAY less and they ability to medavac out wounded soldier by helicopter dramatically improved the survival rate from wounds

[GM54]

Omg yes.

A chance to leave your humanity back home and be unleashed, do whatever you want to the meat sack in front of you.... Let out all your animal aggressions with no repercussion... Amazing

[RocknRollMuscle]

sad but i would. i'm smart so probably work behind the scenes designing weapons.

the age of dictators is essentialy gone thank god. If we didn't take out hitler and emporer hirohito (ie: made a peace deal) - 10 years later they'd have atom boms and the world would be phucked. Esp if us didn't create one.

so those who call usa racist - 100k's of young white men died so u can live in piece, protest and not be thrown into camps by hitler. Maybe you shoudl thank those white men.

[anonymous]

brave enough or low class background enough?

[EoR]

Thankfully our grandfathers made that sacrifice for us and we don't have to worry about it.

Yes now we have the luxury of hating ourselves and getting upset about misgendered wording.

[andrew28]

Everyone (including me) thinks they’d freeze up and be corporal Upham from Saving Private Ryan. And that’s coming from a humble place.

But I’ve read a good amount of books on war psychology and you’d be surprised how once put in a position of “fight or die,” how quickly humans are able to switch off their fear and just perform. Sun Tzu talked about this in The Art of War. Soldiers will undergo this remarkable transformation when placed in a position of certain death. It’s quite fascinating.

Caesar talked about this before the battle of Pharsalus. In the HBO show Rome, his men were outnumbered 3 to 1. He told one of his concerned generals, “For us it’s fight or die. Pompeii’s men have other options....”

Caesar ended up winning.

[Mike1991]

I think put in that situation I'd have no trouble fighting. For me I'd have more of an issue fighting some rich *******s war for a reason I probably don't fully understand

[DesiredUserphag]

If I had MREs with the "superman pills" they had then I'm 100% sure I'd be trying to be top frag on my team SRS

[JuceSpringsteen]

Everyone (including me) thinks they’d freeze up and be corporal Upham from Saving Private Ryan. And that’s coming from a humble place.

But I’ve read a good amount of books on war psychology and you’d be surprised how once put in a position of “fight or die,” how quickly humans are able to switch off their fear and just perform. Sun Tzu talked about this in The Art of War. Soldiers will undergo this remarkable transformation when placed in a position of certain death. It’s quite fascinating.

Caesar talked about this before the battle of Pharsalus. In the HBO show Rome, his men were outnumbered 3 to 1. He told one of his concerned generals, “For us it’s fight or die. Pompeii’s men have other options....”

Caesar ended up winning.

Dope and woke post.

[iifymbro]

none of the above

but srs prob vietnam just for the upgrade in medical tech and heli pickups, but would not enjoy the guerilla warfare in the jungle one fukkin bit

half a milly Americans died in WW2, fukkin lol at joining those front lines. If in the pacific then rip in pieces

[kusok]

Bravery in 1940s:

Opening scene of Saving Private Ryan, but for real.

Bravery in 2021:

Admitting that you like cock and are a democrat ****git that wants reparations and wears masks because afraid of a cold.

[andrew28]

The scariest scenario for me would be charging an artillary garrison in the Civil War having double canister shot wiping my entire regiment out like one giant shotgun. I can’t imagine the balls that must take to keep walking forward after witnessing something as horrifying as that.

The other one would be getting hit by friendly fire Napalm in Vietnam. Watching that guy in We Were Soldiers having his skin fall off the bones as Barry Pepper tried to carry him to the chopper....fuk...

[GuineaDago585]

vietnam was so much of a better war to be in its not even funny

yes many of them spent more time on the front lines than the average ww1 or ww2 soldier


but the death rates were WAY less and they ability to medavac out wounded soldier by helicopter dramatically improved the survival rate from wounds

Yes but it seems many if not most of the Vietnam vets came home batchit crazy. Far too many had their DNA permanently poisoned by agent orange and their children, even grandchildren, were born retarded srs.

World War II vets mostly came home heroes. They carried themselves with pride, seemingly unbothered by the horrors of war.

[ParsleyTea]

It is hard to imagine the bravery many of these soldiers had. I can't imagine. It isn't anything I'd want to experience.

[wincel]

LMFAO fuk no. Why would I fight so some *******s can feel better about chit they control when I get nothing? I'd be happy to kill anyone who tried to take me prisoner, but I'd be one of those people who snuck out of the country and fled far FAR away. Fuk my "patriotic duty". My life is worth more to me than yours is to me, and that is all that matters lol. Every man for himself, *******s. I'd be the fuker dodging drafts and running the other way. Screw that chit. Get on a fukin boat age 18 only to get mowed down by gunfire? NOTHXJEFFREY.

Maybe I'd join and fight IF my family were killed or some chit. Then I'd just only want revenge. Otherwise, naw.

In fact, it is honestly incredible and insane that Americans went and fought considering how minimal the threat was to us personally. I think more people were pulled into the war as they knew people who died. But in all srsness, it would take some sort of direct attack on myself, my property, and my family for me to feel the urge to join ranks and fight. Otherwise, I'd just avoid it.

[JuceSpringsteen]

LMFAO fuk no. Why would I fight so some *******s can feel better about chit they control when I get nothing? I'd be happy to kill anyone who tried to take me prisoner, but I'd be one of those people who snuck out of the country and fled far FAR away. Fuk my "patriotic duty". My life is worth more to me than yours is to me, and that is all that matters lol. Every man for himself, *******s. I'd be the fuker dodging drafts and running the other way. Screw that chit. Get on a fukin boat age 18 only to get mowed down by gunfire? NOTHXJEFFREY.

This isn't about whether you believe in what they fought for.

This thread is simply asking, would you be brave enough?

Regardless of what you think of war, patriotism, and US imperialism, you have to respect those men. Because they risked their lives for something they believed in. That level of self sacrifice and altruism is truly admirable. Ideal character traits.

[BigElephant]

Nope, I want to live a long life.

[wincel]

This isn't about whether you believe in what they fought for.

This thread is simply asking, would you be brave enough?

Regardless of what you think of war, patriotism, and US imperialism, you have to respect those men. Because they risked their lives for something they believed in. That level of self sacrifice and altruism is truly admirable. Ideal character traits.

To me it isn't about bravery for my case. I'd only do it out of anger. I can be really brave when I'm pissed off. The anger overrides fear. Otherwise, I'm a coward. I'd have to lose something and make it worth fighting for. If that didn't happen, I'd probably just ditch.

And absolutely, those men were brave af. Maybe even dumb. IDK how many of them even believed in it. It is said that they put the dumbest people they could in the very front to just be cannon fodder, and I believe that. It's horrible. But yea, you either have to be really stupid or ridiculously brave to be out there fighting if you haven't lost anything. Unless you're just a psycho and enjoy the killing.

Yeah some of those men were heroes in every definition of the word for sure. I am not a hero, and I don't desire to be one.

Self sacrifice and altruism are ideal traits...for everyone else to have. For the individual, not so much.

[Syko617]

by myself no.
but marching into battle with your brothers in arms must be a hell of a feeling.

[immune18]

Brave enough yes, stupid enough no. I would only do it if there was literally a shortage of soldiers and I absolutely had to to protect the country

[JStrez]

I've always thought about this. I feel like in another life, I'd be a special forces operator in the military. Riding on the side of a chopper, ripping a cig, as the sun sets on another day in Vietnam. Felt like I could use more full tilt pedal to the metal action in my life. Had I not of gone into the career/school I did, my original goal was to become an EOD Technician in the Navy, which I was originally in the process of before I dropped it. I'm bout that action boss, gimme the smoke. When I announced my original intentions to family, friends, and the school guidance counselor, they thought I was fukkin insane.

Freedom is not free, the blood of the patriots has paid for the freedom we all enjoy. Thankfully people put their lives on the line to protect our way of freedom, and for that we should be forever indebted to them.

[wincel]

I've always thought about this. I feel like in another life, I'd be a special forces operator in the military. Riding on the side of a chopper, ripping a cig, as the sun sets on another day in Vietnam. Felt like I could use more full tilt pedal to the metal action in my life. Had I not of gone into the career/school I did, my original goal was to become an EOD Technician in the Navy, which I was originally in the process of before I dropped it. I'm bout that action boss, gimme the smoke.

Freedom is not free, the blood of the patriots has paid for the freedom we all enjoy. Thankfully people put their lives on the line to protect our way of freedom, and for that we should be forever indebted to them.

Location: New York

real life isn't COD, moron

[neondevil]

Considering I lost 4 close family members before I was born in World War 2 and an uncle who got shot down behind enemy lines, I'd probably go, I'd probably get in combat and MOST LIKELY I'd be going home very not alive.

We're lovers not fighters.

[WellHungOver]

Hell no.

[DoYouEvenNEM]

Remember American soldiers were actually paid well during those wars. Not like the Vietnam War where pay plummeted.


An USA AirBorne soldier for example had a higher salary than a Japanese General, IIRC.

[andrew28]

Remember American soldiers were actually paid well during those wars. Not like the Vietnam War where pay plummeted.


An USA AirBorne soldier for example had a higher salary than a Japanese General, IIRC.

One of the worst parts about Vietnam that I didn’t realize until I got older (because all war movies to me as a child were simplified as good guy kills bad guy), was that there were no real fixed objectives like in World War II or most conventional wars. Usually it’s about gaining ground, pushing your men further geographically into enemy territory. Like how the allies landed in Normandy, France and made their way into Germany.

Vietnam was nothing like that. They measured success by body counts and kill/death ratios. It was a terrible war of attrition and the NVA knew the American troops didn’t wanna be there. Kinda like in Hamburger Hill when the Americans finally took that hill, they just picked up and left after counting the bodies, only to see it get retaken all over again. That’s so demoralizing. It was just a search and destroy mission the entire time.

War is just a means to an end. Hannibal the Barbarian learned this the hard way. He was a great general and won many battles. But he never fulfilled his father’s dreams of burning Rome to the ground because the Romans finally realized Hannibal could not win if they chose not to engage his forces in an open field. So they eventually just packed up and left. As a great military Author Richard A. Gabriel put it, “You don’t get points for trying.”

And in Vietnam when we were pulling out finally, an American General said to the Vietnamese general, “You realize that my men never lost a single engagement with your men, right?” The Vietnamese general looked at him and said “That’s absolutely right.....And it’s also irrelevant....”. *Mic drop*

[InPhase]

The bravest were the ones going over the top in the ww1 trenches. Knowing they were walking into a hail of bullets and most likely wouldn't survive. That took some serious balls getting up to do it knowing your were probably going to die.

And if you chickened out you would be court martialed, and probably executed.