Average strength of males

[Sun tzu]

What would you expect a newcomer to the gym and to exercise in general, in the 18 to 35 male demographic be able to lift on these lifts?

Squat
Deadlift
Bench
Standing press
Power clean

So I'm asking for untrained 1 rep maxes on day one.

[air2fakie]

I wouldn’t expect anything unless I saw the person’s size, weight and general body type first.

I also wouldn’t ask someone to try to do 1 RMs of those lifts on their first day in the gym.

[TolerantLactose]

On day 1 from completely untrained? Maybe the bar for upper body and 95lbs for lower body.

[BeginnerGainz]

Strength is specific.

Anytime a newb steps into a gym they will hit a rep max in whatever range that may be.

[TolerantLactose]

OP sizing up the competition?

[Garage Rat]

I concur ,so many variables as mentioned above.
Also consider if they do manual labor or not or are athletic but non weight trained.
Technique for sure if your untrained you could be doing something unsafely to start off.
You can't really give a number although i think most could do bar weight.

[MyEgoProblem]

https://symmetricstrength.com/standards#/

Probably the most data available. Will fall somewhere in in. Not that it matters much

Or check they open powerlifting and do some leg work.

[Ironface]

135 squat
125 bench
155 deadlift
65 overhead press
0 clean. A noob has no idea how to do a clean and will flop around like a fish trying to do it on day one

^^^These are my best guesses for a typical adult male walking into the gym for the first time.

[WolfRose7]

Depends on athletic history and weight.

Bench 20-80kg
Squat 30-90kg
Deadlift 40-140kg
Press 20-40kg

[Ghawk21]

Who cares and what do you plan on doing with this info anyways? Someone who's worked in manual labor will probably be much stronger than a desk worker. Someone who grew up playing sports will probably find movements more natural and move more weight than someone who never did. Throw in height, weight, limb length and all sorts of other factors and you can't really guess anything.

You asked this question about peoples starting 1RM for the bench and got a wide range of responses from 45-over 150lbs reported. You'll get the same story here and if you're still speculating about estimating 1RM after LP based on starting points then you're still over simplifying things.

[kharneth]

I think it would depend on too many factors, such as their size, fitness level, etc. Some people, like me, can into lifting from a geeky lifestyle that involved inactivity and under eating, others may have never lifted weights but enjoy athletic activities, or may have a lot of body weight and won't be able to squat as much.

I've recently been using this site https://strengthlevel.com/ to get a general idea of what things to shoot for, particularly to compare weights such as bench press and bent-row because in the past I feel like the difference between the two for me was too vast and I'm hoping to make sure my rowing doesn't slack this time around.

[Sun tzu]

I should have specified no manual-labour people.

I think those strength standards undershoot most people's numbers based on what I have seen on journals and other sources.

[Ghawk21]

I should have specified no manual-labour people.

I think those strength standards undershoot most people's numbers based on what I have seen on journals and other sources.

What's the goal here? Just slowly widdle it down to untrained office workers and then do what with this information?

[TolerantLactose]

What's the goal here? Just slowly widdle it down to untrained office workers and then do what with this information?

Rationalize his own numbers?

[oldballs]

What are your numbers? Then I will tell you.

[Sun tzu]

I've run NLP several times and other people in my demographic end up with 1.5 times my end numbers or even double.

My best end numbers(5 rep max):

Squat 206
Deadlift 216
Bench 143
Standing press 95
Power clean 108

And I was recovering correctly and doing everything right.

[Ghawk21]

I've run NLP several times and other people in my demographic end up with 1.5 times my end numbers or even double.

My best end numbers(5 rep max):

Squat 206
Deadlift 216
Bench 143
Standing press 95
Power clean 108

And I was recovering correctly and doing everything right.

So whats the point of the original question? Why not focus on yourself and if you aren't happy with the results then ask for help on your own programming. What program are you currently running, whats your own height/weight and are you bulking or cutting?

[paulinkansas]

That's like asking "How long is a piece of string?" or "How far can my Dog Lifts dog run in the woods?".

[EliKoehn]

I'm actually going to take OP's side on this one. He is just curious and I think it's an interesting question that honestly most of us have wondered at one point or another. It's not like this needs to be a formal thesis being submitted to a peer-reviewed scientific journal to be a point of discussion.

It does depend on a lot of things, but you can draw some fairly reliable general lines for a modern, developed country where very few people do hard manual labor. Those that grew up playing sports for the most part will have also grown up working out, making them irrelevant to the parameters of the question.

[TolerantLactose]

It's not like this needs to be a formal thesis being submitted to a peer-reviewed scientific journal to be a point of discussion.

I don't know about OP not turning this into a thesis.

What was your end weight on the squat after finishing Starting Strength?

Please, only answer the poll, if:

1. You are a man.
2. If you started the program after your were 18.
3. If you finished the program before you were 50.

DL End weight?

Please, only answer the poll, if:

1. You are a man.
2. If you started the program after your were 18.
3. If you finished the program before you were 50.
4. You stalled at least twice on the DL.

What was your 1 rep max on the bench press before training?

The question applies to untrained adult males who decided to calculate their 1 rep max on their first workout.

[EliKoehn]

I don't know about OP not turning this into a thesis.

Touche... Didn't see any of those until just now

[Sun tzu]

So whats the point of the original question? Why not focus on yourself and if you aren't happy with the results then ask for help on your own programming. What program are you currently running, whats your own height/weight and are you bulking or cutting?

I'm three months into starting strength. I have been absent from lifting for a few years but have run the program before.

I want to see if I can see a pattern between starting maxes and end ones. For instance, squat one-rep-max goes up 50% on the corrrectly run LP.

I would also like to know where my maximal strength potential lies.

[Ghawk21]

I'm three months into starting strength. I have been absent from lifting for a few years but have run the program before.

I want to see if I can see a pattern between starting maxes and end ones. For instance, squat one-rep-max goes up 50% on the corrrectly run LP.

I would also like to know where my maximal strength potential lies.

Too many variables man. Only way to find out is to run it and see where you get. For what its worth SS is a very meh program. I'd recommend Fierce 5 over it from the stickies. You're years of dedicated training away from ever finding your max strength potential so don't waste effort on trying to cap it based on whatever modelling you're trying to do.

[MyEgoProblem]

Start and end numbers on a noob program dont matter for normal people
They have f all to do with your numbers later in your career. Your training later in your career does.

Unless you are freak/elite. Then you will already know.

[air2fakie]

I'm three months into starting strength. I have been absent from lifting for a few years but have run the program before.

I want to see if I can see a pattern between starting maxes and end ones. For instance, squat one-rep-max goes up 50% on the corrrectly run LP.

I would also like to know where my maximal strength potential lies.

None of this should have any impact on your training.

[TolerantLactose]

I would also like to know where my maximal strength potential lies.

Your potential doesn't matter if you're just going to quit after a few months. How many times has that happened since you've joined this site?

[Sun tzu]

Your potential doesn't matter if you're just going to quit after a few months. How many times has that happened since you've joined this site?

Thank you all for the answers.

I did it first in 2008; then in 2011 and hurt my knee; then in 2012 but just the upper body movements because my knees were still bothering me; then in 2016 but I stopped due to moving to another country for work; and now.

Because my numbers were so low I thought I was doing something wrong so I didn't really want to change program. When I finish this time I plan to either move to HLM or to a 4-day upper-lower split.