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    One thing I don't like is that player names are no longer unique.. duplicate names are now a thing, meaning your name is preceded by a battletag.

    That sucks! you can't really remember anyone anymore. if there's a dude named Jizzfarmer his name should be unique..
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    One thing I don't like is that player names are no longer unique.. duplicate names are now a thing, meaning your name is preceded by a battletag.

    That sucks! you can't really remember anyone anymore. if there's a dude named Jizzfarmer his name should be unique..
    Agree, definitely not a fan of that
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    One thing I don't like is that player names are no longer unique.. duplicate names are now a thing, meaning your name is preceded by a battletag.

    That sucks! you can't really remember anyone anymore. if there's a dude named Jizzfarmer his name should be unique..
    TugOfCocks #6969 should probably be unique enough
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    No doubt more people even now play D2, I remember it was 40k+ player peak time and the forums for trading are still packed.

    Imagine after D4 settles--because of course initially it's going to be crowed--that the numbers go under D2 retention rates lol. 20 years, 2 sequels later and the guys who did it way before had it right the first go.

    I think D4 will beat D3, but it really does look like they have no clue. They are trying to be stubborn and still hold onto D3 elements and the actual visuals of D4 like everyone said just feels like they put a "dimmer" on the D3 engine.

    Here is why they fundamentally got worse. It starts from a new staff and devs who weren't a part of the original process and were inexperienced.

    100% they are thinking. "We need to have something different and new or we will lose players. We have to evolve the series". But the mistake is they should "supplement" if something isn't broken. Keep the core gameplay mechanics there and ADD. Not "replace". Evolution doesn't mean just changing everything because you have to be fresh. And then on top of that they let pride get in the way and instead of removing mistakes they always do some "Half way" approach as if to not concede they were wrong the whole time.

    I am way more hyped for D2 remastered, but it's not like I want D4 to fail but sadly I am seeing the same mistakes occurring again. Instead of admitting what didn't work they are going into the "half ass compromise" mode. They should just should have wiped the board with D3 and worked back up again from D2.
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    Fk I wish they would give us this, like now...
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    Originally Posted by EoR View Post
    No doubt more people even now play D2, I remember it was 40k+ player peak time and the forums for trading are still packed.

    Imagine after D4 settles--because of course initially it's going to be crowed--that the numbers go under D2 retention rates lol. 20 years, 2 sequels later and the guys who did it way before had it right the first go.

    I think D4 will beat D3, but it really does look like they have no clue. They are trying to be stubborn and still hold onto D3 elements and the actual visuals of D4 like everyone said just feels like they put a "dimmer" on the D3 engine.

    Here is why they fundamentally got worse. It starts from a new staff and devs who weren't a part of the original process and were inexperienced.

    100% they are thinking. "We need to have something different and new or we will lose players. We have to evolve the series". But the mistake is they should "supplement" if something isn't broken. Keep the core gameplay mechanics there and ADD. Not "replace". Evolution doesn't mean just changing everything because you have to be fresh. And then on top of that they let pride get in the way and instead of removing mistakes they always do some "Half way" approach as if to not concede they were wrong the whole time.

    I am way more hyped for D2 remastered, but it's not like I want D4 to fail but sadly I am seeing the same mistakes occurring again. Instead of admitting what didn't work they are going into the "half ass compromise" mode. They should just should have wiped the board with D3 and worked back up again from D2.
    I think alot of games, especially newer games basically "coddles" people with convenience. Things feel less like an adventure, less meaningful and impactful and the games are bogged down by so many complexities which takes away from the core gameplay. I think evolution in that sense isn't necessarily a good thing especially when there are trade offs in other places. Also a lot of gimmicky ass mechanics.

    Keep skills/builds simple while introducing certain trade-offs, focus more on content and gameplay as well as the item/loot system. Part of what turned Diablo 3 off for me was the looting system. It just felt very meaningless to me where it would be like "oh I found a rare, pshhh w/e, just gonna salvage that for material" where I think the appeal is in finding an item and being like "oh this is pretty unique and cool and has an interesting effect, I just found it while killing this monster, I might use this". Instead you basically go to NPCs and spend your time crafting gear rather than just playing the core game itself for the content.


    At the same time though, for those that played Diablo II back then, it was very brutal farming for high runes, I think the novelty of the new graphics will wear out once reality sinks in on what the end game is about
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    I expect this to be awesome and for that reason, I'm not going to play. I'm 30 and can't afford to piss away 3-6 months of my life focused on a game when I need to make money.

    There's a lot of dumb chit that needs to be fixed from the original game. The first one that comes to mind is that they need to make paladin auras available on left click. Mind boggling stupid that you can't attack move while using an aura with the paladin in the original game.
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    Originally Posted by monster0ultra View Post
    I expect this to be awesome and for that reason, I'm not going to play. I'm 30 and can't afford to piss away 3-6 months of my life focused on a game when I need to make money.

    There's a lot of dumb chit that needs to be fixed from the original game. The first one that comes to mind is that they need to make paladin auras available on left click. Mind boggling stupid that you can't attack move while using an aura with the paladin in the original game.
    These mindsets are so stupid

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    It's going to be pretty fukin awesome seeing the environment visuals. Things that come to mind:

    Act 3 - the temple areas
    Act 4 - the area with Diablo, all the lava, etc
    Act 5 - the snowy environments outdoors, and the arreat summit in particular

    I remember when defeating the ancients I was looking over the edge of the summit and was in awe at how cool it looked. Even to this day with the insane graphics we have, that art just amazes me

    Edit: I forgot about the pandemonium fortress
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    It's going to be pretty fukin awesome seeing the environment visuals. Things that come to mind:

    Act 3 - the temple areas
    Act 4 - the area with Diablo, all the lava, etc
    Act 5 - the snowy environments outdoors, and the arreat summit in particular

    I remember when defeating the ancients I was looking over the edge of the summit and was in awe at how cool it looked. Even to this day with the insane graphics we have, that art just amazes me
    I'd like to see what Arcane Sanctuary in A2 looks like
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    I'd like to see what Arcane Sanctuary in A2 looks like
    can't wait to hear that Lut Gholein music again, that was my favorite music of d2

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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    It's going to be pretty fukin awesome seeing the environment visuals. Things that come to mind:

    Act 3 - the temple areas
    Act 4 - the area with Diablo, all the lava, etc
    Act 5 - the snowy environments outdoors, and the arreat summit in particular

    I remember when defeating the ancients I was looking over the edge of the summit and was in awe at how cool it looked. Even to this day with the insane graphics we have, that art just amazes me

    Edit: I forgot about the pandemonium fortress
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    Might start Path of Diablo soon, never played it but looks interesting. Gotta cope somehow before D2R comes out
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    Might start Path of Diablo soon, never played it but looks interesting. Gotta cope somehow before D2R comes out
    Highly recommend. Really enjoyed the trading system.
    Have they announced when D2R is cumming out?
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    Originally Posted by Singularity7 View Post
    Highly recommend. Really enjoyed the trading system.
    Have they announced when D2R is cumming out?
    As of right now it is coming out On or before Dec 21 2021 i believe.

    Have you played Project Diablo 2? I just saw that's another mod, so trying to figure out which one I want to play. Leaning towards PD2 though.
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    It's going to be pretty fukin awesome seeing the environment visuals. Things that come to mind:

    Act 3 - the temple areas
    Act 4 - the area with Diablo, all the lava, etc
    Act 5 - the snowy environments outdoors, and the arreat summit in particular

    I remember when defeating the ancients I was looking over the edge of the summit and was in awe at how cool it looked. Even to this day with the insane graphics we have, that art just amazes me

    Edit: I forgot about the pandemonium fortress
    I wonder what they're going to do with the maggot lair...
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    D4 looks like it could have some interesting builds/skill system

    but I'm like meh when it comes to graphics. just looks like a darker version of D3
    The problem D4 is going to have is that POE exists. It has had a decade of systems and depth built into it. People will expect the same even though 80% of that depth is garbage.
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    I think alot of games, especially newer games basically "coddles" people with convenience. Things feel less like an adventure, less meaningful and impactful and the games are bogged down by so many complexities which takes away from the core gameplay. I think evolution in that sense isn't necessarily a good thing especially when there are trade offs in other places. Also a lot of gimmicky ass mechanics.

    Keep skills/builds simple while introducing certain trade-offs, focus more on content and gameplay as well as the item/loot system. Part of what turned Diablo 3 off for me was the looting system. It just felt very meaningless to me where it would be like "oh I found a rare, pshhh w/e, just gonna salvage that for material" where I think the appeal is in finding an item and being like "oh this is pretty unique and cool and has an interesting effect, I just found it while killing this monster, I might use this". Instead you basically go to NPCs and spend your time crafting gear rather than just playing the core game itself for the content.


    At the same time though, for those that played Diablo II back then, it was very brutal farming for high runes, I think the novelty of the new graphics will wear out once reality sinks in on what the end game is about
    Will feel good to be excited for drops. While I love PoE, they have stacked so many league mechanics that it's just explosions of gear and currency. Even exalt drops aren't exciting anymore. You can nearly jump into red maps straight away now, and you become wealthy so quickly it just feels a bit meaningless - I still like PoE though but I preferred it when it was a bit more trimmed.

    D2 has area specific item farming too which makes environment feel pretty uniue. Like that cave which drops certain osoc weapons, farming for charms in cow level, farming chaos sanct for Griffons. And yeah HRs are brutal to get but when you get one it's like a mirror from poe dropped.

    If everything is the same, you'll get people doing speed runs to farm hell forge for runes etc. There are so many unique things like that to do rather than have a system where you all enter the same area and "Anything" can drop from there.

    But yeah, some people won't like that. D3 on T16 suffers what POE is doing now, just rainbows of gear and it starts to get diluted.

    I am still amped and hopefully they don't disappoint and it's not released in the later months of the year.
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    Don't fall for it

    Didn't we learn a lesson from the cashgrab WARCRAFT 3 Reforged?

    They released a "updated" version and charged $40 then said "lol jk about half the upgrades, btw no ladder" now it's unplayable with the new graphics on. Everyone playing now is on the original graphics
    shut up you silly twat and do some research it's not being made by blizzard. they've given the code to a studio that just does remasters. it looks sick
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    Originally Posted by MiamiLife305 View Post
    These mindsets are so stupid

    Why would you have to give up 3-6 months?

    Just play an hour a day or less if you have to
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    Originally Posted by nn586 View Post
    As of right now it is coming out On or before Dec 21 2021 i believe.

    Have you played Project Diablo 2? I just saw that's another mod, so trying to figure out which one I want to play. Leaning towards PD2 though.
    I'd probably play PD2, it's basically the newer kid on the block so I feel like more people are playing that (could be wrong)
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    Originally Posted by hxa View Post
    just lol@all the consoomers itt. It's a Blizz remake lol and D2 was worse than you remember it. (the best back then though)

    I bet it won't have 5% of the content PoE has. Probably 5% of the fun too.
    I'm sure people said the same thing about WoW classic, look how that turned out?

    Truth is, games back then were better. Just look at all the games being released these days, so many remasters because publishers are realizing that those are what actually had great gameplay.

    D2 will destroy everything else IMO.
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    I wonder if they decided to do this after seeing how well classic did?
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    D2 will destroy everything else IMO.
    brah you have no idea, i cant wait for this to come out. i just hope they stay true and dont change chit.



    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    I'd probably play PD2, it's basically the newer kid on the block so I feel like more people are playing that (could be wrong)

    ive been playing PD2 the last few days, made a golem necro. i also am using a loot filter and absolutely love it, gonna be hard going back to normal loot after this. PD2 is great havent gotten to maps yet though

    playing single player PD2 with Plugy right now but season 2 starts march 13th i believe so going to go on bnet when it starts... any brahs wanna play lemme know
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    Originally Posted by nn586 View Post
    brah you have no idea, i cant wait for this to come out. i just hope they stay true and dont change chit.
    dude i'm taking a few days off work srs
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    I wish they'd just give us a fking release date already...
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    Originally Posted by BenjiDaldes View Post
    shut up you silly twat and do some research it's not being made by blizzard. they've given the code to a studio that just does remasters. it looks sick
    Yeah I'm sure it's totally independent without any input from BLIZZARD, that's why it's plastered all over blizzard.com

    You've been warned phaggot. Idiots preodering in tens of millions like you just encourage the piss poor effort and cash grabs to continue. Reminds me of people who buy madden every year
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