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    Originally Posted by q0c0p View Post
    The more I hear about this the less interested I get. They are making some horrible decisions in some aspects. I didnt expect much after the reforge debacle tho. Dont get too hype boyos. Wait until it's out before making your decision
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Would this be even playable on a controller? I see a bunch of buttons and stuff to click that makes me think keyboard and mouse
    There was a time where I couldn’t imagine playing Diablo on anything but PC. Got D3 on pc first but eventually picked it up on PS4 and playing it with a controller is actually really nice. Especially depending on what builds you use. I remember not really liking Whirlwind barbarians with a mouse but holy chit it feels great with an analog stick to control where you are spinning.
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    Originally Posted by q0c0p View Post
    The more I hear about this the less interested I get. They are making some horrible decisions in some aspects. I didnt expect much after the reforge debacle tho. Dont get too hype boyos. Wait until it's out before making your decision
    C'mon Mane. Give us examples.



    Originally Posted by MiamiLife305 View Post
    Diablo 3 worked perfectly on a controller.

    Im sure this will as well, maybe not as precise as a mouse obviously
    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    There was a time where I couldn’t imagine playing Diablo on anything but PC. Got D3 on pc first but eventually picked it up on PS4 and playing it with a controller is actually really nice. Especially depending on what builds you use. I remember not really liking Whirlwind barbarians with a mouse but holy chit it feels great with an analog stick to control where you are spinning.

    HNNGH okay nice brah will get it on PS4 if it's any good. I think I did play Diablo 1 on Playstation waaay back in the day. I could be wrong but I remember that game being much simpler.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    C'mon Mane. Give us examples.
    He can't. Because they're literally making ZERO changes to the actual game - just like everyone hoped. The changes they're making to the UI and general quality of life updates are by and far welcomed by pretty much everyone. And it sounds like a lot of the changes can simply be turned off or on if you don't like it.
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    wasn't super interested because it will be the same old end game which will get pretty stale fairly quickly

    then I heard it will have mod support

    imagine project Diablo 2 and Path of Diablo on those graphics

    HHHNNNGGGGGGG

    if there's any D2 fans in here that haven't heard of PD2 or PoD you seriously need to check them out

    they do stuff like rebalance the game, various QOL features, new crafting options like the equivalent of annul and exalt orbs from POE, and mapping like POE.
    Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
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    Originally Posted by adamsz View Post
    wasn't super interested because it will be the same old end game which will get pretty stale fairly quickly
    PvP in diablo 2 is probably more fun than anything that's been released since.. only games that even come close in pure fun factor are halo 2 multiplayer and battlefield 4... nothing else is memorable

    now imagine that PvP in 3440x1440 with updated graphics.. that would probably last me a decade


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    Originally Posted by bongowongo View Post
    Why should a guy like me who's never played Diablo be interested in this srs?

    Is Diablo basically a Borderlands CRPG? seems like people just like this game because they grind for end game loot?
    Have you ever played a game like this? I played diablo 2 when it first came out. I am not a huge gamer and tbh I don't even remember much about diablo 2 but I remember it was really fun. The community was good. You met some pretty cool people and just hanging out around the town's was fun.

    I was pretty hardcore into it but I wasn't hardcore, if that makes sense. I never got lvl boosted or grinded for stuff like all these other ppl are talking about.

    Depending on price I'll pick it up again.
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    Originally Posted by q0c0p View Post
    The more I hear about this the less interested I get. They are making some horrible decisions in some aspects. I didnt expect much after the reforge debacle tho. Dont get too hype boyos. Wait until it's out before making your decision

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    Originally Posted by BenjiDaldes View Post
    they had this guy on board secretly the whole time. so if they're going to him to ask for opinions etc i'm actually quite optimistic

    And to add to my list on the page before of why this game is God tier this video is another. It's one of the best speed run games because runners have to adapt on the fly. Even trash gold amounts and timing your gold takes effort, item rng, rune rng, mob spawn rng etc.

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    got damn I'm actually hyped
    It looks better than D3 and D4 lol. D4 sadly looks like they just dimmed the lights on the D3 engine.

    This video looks promising but I just hope they have changed nothing like enigma teleporting or added balancing that doesn't exist in the current D2 patch.

    D2 with better graphics, better multiplayer interface and the usual season set-up like the original and it will be a behemoth hit. If they do this they have my money and I will be rolling a FO sorc on HC from day 1.

    AND the biggest thing I haven't seen mentioned is D2 doesn't really have BOP/BOE items. Will Blizzard set aside their greed and keep this too? Who cares if third party sites sell, losing full trading is a worse. And also things like people able to loot your gold when you die etc. Nothing should be altered.

    I already know you're going to have people whinge at things like people flagging up in HC and killing you. Welcome to the jungle, you hear that horn either fight or TP out.

    Though I do worry a little reading stuff like this:

    "“We have other [features] like the auto gold pickup, which you would expect in a modern-day game — that you have the ability just to walk over and hoover up the gold — but maybe a purist doesn’t want that quality of life,” said Fergusson. “And so we’ve actually made some [improvements] that are toggleable, and you can opt in or not.” "

    https://www.polygon.com/2021/2/19/22...grades-updates

    But it seems they are aware people want it as close as possible to the original. There should be no compromise on skill balance and mechanics though. I can live with some QoL changes even though tbh I want it all the same, but if that's as far as they go then it looks hopeful.
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    PvP in diablo 2 is probably more fun than anything that's been released since.. only games that even come close in pure fun factor are halo 2 multiplayer and battlefield 4... nothing else is memorable

    now imagine that PvP in 3440x1440 with updated graphics.. that would probably last me a decade


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    Non binding items is a huge thing for me. Loved trading with someone and saying “wug” and you just put up all of your chit and you two make a deal.

    Can’t wait to get the Sigon’s set and keep it forever and use it on every single new character.
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    Originally Posted by bongowongo View Post
    Why should a guy like me who's never played Diablo be interested in this srs?

    Is Diablo basically a Borderlands CRPG? seems like people just like this game because they grind for end game loot?
    I'd like to know the answer too, looks like it could be fun but not for me if grinding for loot is a core element, never played any CRPG.
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    Originally Posted by EoR View Post
    And to add to my list on the page before of why this game is God tier this video is another. It's one of the best speed run games because runners have to adapt on the fly. Even trash gold amounts and timing your gold takes effort, item rng, rune rng, mob spawn rng etc.



    It looks better than D3 and D4 lol. D4 sadly looks like they just dimmed the lights on the D3 engine.

    This video looks promising but I just hope they have changed nothing like enigma teleporting or added balancing that doesn't exist in the current D2 patch.

    D2 with better graphics, better multiplayer interface and the usual season set-up like the original and it will be a behemoth hit. If they do this they have my money and I will be rolling a FO sorc on HC from day 1.

    AND the biggest thing I haven't seen mentioned is D2 doesn't really have BOP/BOE items. Will Blizzard set aside their greed and keep this too? Who cares if third party sites sell, losing full trading is a worse. And also things like people able to loot your gold when you die etc. Nothing should be altered.

    I already know you're going to have people whinge at things like people flagging up in HC and killing you. Welcome to the jungle, you hear that horn either fight or TP out.

    Though I do worry a little reading stuff like this:

    "“We have other [features] like the auto gold pickup, which you would expect in a modern-day game — that you have the ability just to walk over and hoover up the gold — but maybe a purist doesn’t want that quality of life,” said Fergusson. “And so we’ve actually made some [improvements] that are toggleable, and you can opt in or not.” "

    https://www.polygon.com/2021/2/19/22...grades-updates

    But it seems they are aware people want it as close as possible to the original. There should be no compromise on skill balance and mechanics though. I can live with some QoL changes even though tbh I want it all the same, but if that's as far as they go then it looks hopeful.
    ***** just watch the deep dive lol. It answers all your questions.

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    I'd like to know the answer too, looks like it could be fun but not for me if grinding for loot is a core element, never played any CRPG.
    Yeah, it's not a game for you if you don't like to grind for loot and especially not if you've never played it before. The good **** in this game is super hard to impossible to get. There are a bunch of items that you will never see drop.
    Next to that there are several gameplay mechanics in this that will never be added to current games, because zoomers would bawl their eyes out (no personal loot, hostiling, body popping, etc.).
    This is a man's game.
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    Depending on price I'll pick it up again.
    It's $40. Can already pre order.
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    I don't give a fuk if people think it will suck, I'm going to play it.
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    Originally Posted by Soonerjohn View Post
    I don't give a fuk if people think it will suck, I'm going to play it.
    Nobody thinks that, unless they haven't watched the deep dive. The response to this game has been overwhelmingly positive. This is gonna hit big tbh, in the same way as wow classic.
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    It's both refreshing and also kind of nuts to see the level of self-awareness Acti-Blizzard has with this remaster to know that their internal team wouldn't be up to the task after the Warcraft 3 fiasco, so they actually had a studio known for making good remasters like Vicarious Visions do it instead.

    Imagine if more companies had this level of introspection...
    *Also, hey Bandai-Namco! Maybe get Bluepoint to do a proper Dark Souls remaster, you cheap pricks...
    Originally Posted by bongowongo View Post
    Why should a guy like me who's never played Diablo be interested in this srs?

    Is Diablo basically a Borderlands CRPG? seems like people just like this game because they grind for end game loot?
    I missed Diablo I and II back when I was younger, so I'd like to know what makes Diablo II stand out amongst the genre when it comes to the gameplay side.

    While I'm familiar with these kinds of CRPGs, a lot of the recent ones that I know of seem kind of spammy between both the number of enemies for the sake of numbers while the player creates magic raves to fight them off.

    Looking up some random gif examples, this first one looks pretty damn cool with it's melee that isn't covered up by a light show:


    ...And this appears to be Diablo 4 gameplay, which at least looks great:


    ...But then there is whatever this is looks plain retarded:


    But even with the first example, does it feel good, though? Or is it more about clicky dopamine rushes than feeling like an isometric God of War?

    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    There was a time where I couldn’t imagine playing Diablo on anything but PC. Got D3 on pc first but eventually picked it up on PS4 and playing it with a controller is actually really nice. Especially depending on what builds you use. I remember not really liking Whirlwind barbarians with a mouse but holy chit it feels great with an analog stick to control where you are spinning.
    Well that's good to hear.

    I really can't get into using a mouse and keyboard for anything outside of a full out RTS, and the PC version even supports gamepads.
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    HNNGH okay nice brah will get it on PS4 if it's any good. I think I did play Diablo 1 on Playstation waaay back in the day. I could be wrong but I remember that game being much simpler.
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    answers a lot of questions. No personal loot.
    When people say personal loot are they referring to bind on pickup items or items that get automatically assigned to you as they drop but can still be traded? Im against both, prefer free for all with no trading restrictions
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    When people say personal loot are they referring to bind on pickup items or items that get automatically assigned to you as they drop but can still be traded? Im against both, prefer free for all with no trading restrictions
    It'll be FFA with no trade restrictions.
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    When people say personal loot are they referring to bind on pickup items or items that get automatically assigned to you as they drop but can still be traded? Im against both, prefer free for all with no trading restrictions
    F4A loot from D3 was loot only you could see. I don’t remember for sure off the top of my head but I think D3 had a lot of loot that bound to you and was untradeable. To be honest, I don’t remember ever trading loot in D3 outside of the auction house while it existed.

    D2 is going to shock some people with how the loot was. Already seeing a lot of delusional people who got into the franchise with D3 who still think they might change it to personal loot as a QoL change. They are in for a rude awakening.
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    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    F4A loot from D3 was loot only you could see. I don’t remember for sure off the top of my head but I think D3 had a lot of loot that bound to you and was untradeable. To be honest, I don’t remember ever trading loot in D3 outside of the auction house while it existed.

    D2 is going to shock some people with how the loot was. Already seeing a lot of delusional people who got into the franchise with D3 who still think they might change it to personal loot as a QoL change. They are in for a rude awakening.
    I'm so happy things will be the way they used to be. Griefing, scamming, glitches, naked killing, trading, that was part of the appeal of the game.

    Almost seems too good to be true tbh. Got a bad feeling some low T soyboy cucks will complain enough and make the developers cave in and give them what they want. That crap is why a game like WoW is somewhat stale, nothing exciting happens.
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    I'm so happy things will be the way they used to be. Griefing, scamming, glitches, naked killing, trading, that was part of the appeal of the game.

    Almost seems too good to be true tbh. Got a bad feeling some low T soyboy cucks will complain enough and make the developers cave in and give them what they want. That crap is why a game like WoW is somewhat stale, nothing exciting happens.
    i kinda have that feeling too. I hope im wrong , im trying to unlock my d2jsp account , feels.
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    When people say personal loot are they referring to bind on pickup items or items that get automatically assigned to you as they drop but can still be traded? Im against both, prefer free for all with no trading restrictions
    Originally Posted by dj006xx View Post
    looking forward to having coalbrahs ear in my inventory , pepper thy angus.



    answers a lot of questions. No personal loot.
    Originally Posted by illah View Post
    It'll be FFA with no trade restrictions.
    Exactly like D2 and it's a "remaster" not remake so changing the loot system would = automatic no buy for me. Yes people will whine like morons how someone clicked loot first but that's the whole point of universal drop loot. It also makes getting an item even more exciting.

    I mean, a game that starts with personal loot with OPTIONS to toggle it off for yourself like IN POE is better for modern gaming but for D2 the old system is too iconic. 8 people all waiting for that frenzy of clicks, great stuff.

    POE really doesn't even have group play. One 4 players is too small and secondly the gameplay being so fast really doesn't suit a public group. The only thing that works is an aurabot friend or someone doing carry services. *I love POE btw but I don't like the direction it's been going with fountains of loot with too many compressed league mechanics.

    D2 you have plenty of time to load into a game, wait around for a TP, go in, wait, chat, look out for flaggers etc. The pacing was spot on and 8 players makes it feel way better.



    These will be some of the predictable complaints from people who don't know what remastered means.

    1. Enigma is overpowered it needs nerfing. Teleporting meta needs to go.
    2. Make it personal loot, it's retarded I can't get any loot without everyone rushing in spamming click
    3. Any chance for an instanced never-ending dungeon?
    4. Need option to turn off PVP. PKers are ruining this game.
    5. When you die you should have your gold/gear go into your stash
    6. Please balance skill X, Skill Y I know it's resmastered but why can't we have more balancing?
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    Im going to rage if they change anything

    Hopefully they wont because once theyve got our money theres no incentive to make changes
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    Originally Posted by EoR View Post
    Exactly like D2 and it's a "remaster" not remake so changing the loot system would = automatic no buy for me. Yes people will whine like morons how someone clicked loot first but that's the whole point of universal drop loot. It also makes getting an item even more exciting.

    I mean, a game that starts with personal loot with OPTIONS to toggle it off for yourself like IN POE is better for modern gaming but for D2 the old system is too iconic. 8 people all waiting for that frenzy of clicks, great stuff.

    POE really doesn't even have group play. One 4 players is too small and secondly the gameplay being so fast really doesn't suit a public group. The only thing that works is an aurabot friend or someone doing carry services. *I love POE btw but I don't like the direction it's been going with fountains of loot with too many compressed league mechanics.

    D2 you have plenty of time to load into a game, wait around for a TP, go in, wait, chat, look out for flaggers etc. The pacing was spot on and 8 players makes it feel way better.



    These will be some of the predictable complaints from people who don't know what remastered means.

    1. Enigma is overpowered it needs nerfing. Teleporting meta needs to go.
    2. Make it personal loot, it's retarded I can't get any loot without everyone rushing in spamming click
    3. Any chance for an instanced never-ending dungeon?
    4. Need option to turn off PVP. PKers are ruining this game.
    5. When you die you should have your gold/gear go into your stash
    6. Please balance skill X, Skill Y I know it's resmastered but why can't we have more balancing?
    There will be some balance changes as mentioned with the remastered. Remastered doesn't mean they can make slight tweaks and balances to the game. No matter what you think there are slight tweaks you can make that can make the game better without phucking up the core of the game.

    Really don't mind if they do some balance changes to certain items and skills. they did that with project diablo II and path of diablo and people for the most part welcomed and were satisfied with those changes. we aren't talking about your run of the mill *******s that wants everything either.
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    There will be some balance changes as mentioned with the remastered. Remastered doesn't mean they can make slight tweaks and balances to the game. No matter what you think there are slight tweaks you can make that can make the game better without phucking up the core of the game.

    Really don't mind if they do some balance changes to certain items and skills. they did that with project diablo II and path of diablo and people for the most part welcomed and were satisfied with those changes. we aren't talking about your run of the mill *******s that wants everything either.
    There wont be any balance changes
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    There will be some balance changes as mentioned with the remastered.
    Where did you see or read this? I haven't seen mention of "balance" changes anywhere so far.
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    Blizzard flopped on the SC Remastered so while this does look good I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket and waiting until after release to pick this up. SC Remastered engine had to be completely built back up and the source code was using an outdated language. There were so many bugs/glitches that made it worse than the original and it took a few years for them to sort them out.

    D2 Remastered will most likely go through the same fate as the dev teams assigned to these remasters are very very very small compared to their blockbuster mainstream games (OW, HoS, etc.)
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    Originally Posted by dj006xx View Post
    looking forward to having coalbrahs ear in my inventory , pepper thy angus.



    answers a lot of questions. No personal loot.
    Originally Posted by EoR View Post
    Exactly like D2 and it's a "remaster" not remake so changing the loot system would = automatic no buy for me. Yes people will whine like morons how someone clicked loot first but that's the whole point of universal drop loot. It also makes getting an item even more exciting.

    I mean, a game that starts with personal loot with OPTIONS to toggle it off for yourself like IN POE is better for modern gaming but for D2 the old system is too iconic. 8 people all waiting for that frenzy of clicks, great stuff.

    POE really doesn't even have group play. One 4 players is too small and secondly the gameplay being so fast really doesn't suit a public group. The only thing that works is an aurabot friend or someone doing carry services. *I love POE btw but I don't like the direction it's been going with fountains of loot with too many compressed league mechanics.

    D2 you have plenty of time to load into a game, wait around for a TP, go in, wait, chat, look out for flaggers etc. The pacing was spot on and 8 players makes it feel way better.



    These will be some of the predictable complaints from people who don't know what remastered means.

    1. Enigma is overpowered it needs nerfing. Teleporting meta needs to go.
    2. Make it personal loot, it's retarded I can't get any loot without everyone rushing in spamming click
    3. Any chance for an instanced never-ending dungeon?
    4. Need option to turn off PVP. PKers are ruining this game.
    5. When you die you should have your gold/gear go into your stash
    6. Please balance skill X, Skill Y I know it's resmastered but why can't we have more balancing?

    I have no idea what the fuk I just listened to/read. Srs.

    I think I need to play the game first lul
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